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<blockquote data-quote="imhotep" data-source="post: 26686433" data-attributes="member: 562115"><p>Posted for those who like to know the concerns and the truth about the Chinese vaccines. Others can ignore and stay high. I have no problem with it.</p><p></p><p>The CoronaVac vaccine has been developed by Sinovac Biotech in China and is based on the inactivated whole-virus. This vaccine has been approved for emergency use in Thailand and has also been used in vaccination programs in many low-income countries.</p><p></p><p>Infections in Thailand contain the B.1.1.7 (Alpha), B.1.351 (Beta), and B.1.617.2 (Delta) variants. A new study evaluates the efficacy of<strong> vaccine- and infection-induced antibodies</strong> against these variants.</p><p>The team assessed NAb potency against the prototypic strain containing the original spike sequence (WT) compared to that against the 3 VOCs using sera derived from a cohort of <strong>healthcare workers who received a full 2-dose regimen of CoronaVac</strong>. Sera from two other cohorts consisting of COVID-19 <strong>patients who had been hospitalized in 2020 and 2021 </strong>were evaluated for comparison. We found that, despite equally robust production of S1-RBD-binding IgG and 100% seropositivity,</p><p></p><p>This is their conclusion.</p><p></p><p>"Although NAb titers are not an exclusive immune correlate of protection, they are highly predictive of immune protection from symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. Based on our data, although there was robust production of S1-RBD-binding IgG and 100% seropositivity, NAb-mediated protection was markedly reduced (and in many cases undetectable) against the 3 VOCs compared to WT in sera from all groups. NAb potency against Alpha and Beta were comparable in our CoronaVac vaccinee sera; this is inconsistent with a previous report that Beta shows more resistance to neutralization than Alpha in CoronaVac vaccinee sera collected 14 days after the second dose when tested using a pseudovirus neutralization assay. Worryingly, the Delta strain, which is the most transmissible, possibly among the most virulent of all VOCs identified to date , and is rapidly becoming a dominant strain in many countries, appears to be most refractory to neutralization.<strong> Lastly, our study highlights a low degree of neutralization-afforded protection mounted by CoronaVac when compared to natural infection.</strong> <strong>Further booster doses, heterologous or otherwise, beyond the conventional 2-dose regimen may be needed to maintain long-term anamnestic response</strong>. We also underscore a potential risk for reinfection in previously infected individuals, particularly with VOCs. Amid steady NAb decay over time and the continued emergence of divergent SARS-CoV-2 strains, it is imperative to maintain effective mitigation strategies and to continue monitoring vaccine efficiency in areas with circulating VOCs."</p><p></p><p>PS: The take home message is highlighted in the above paragraph. In layman terms<strong> NAb titers elicited by CoronaVac are much lower when compared to natural infection. Also they will need a booster from another vaccine for long term protection.</strong></p><p></p><p>PPS: This is similar to what Pani Jay and the Sri J team carried out recently and made a big celebration. But the facts are far from it. Below is what I wrote on that thread as a reply.</p><p>The Thai team <strong>enforces what I said</strong>. Note this study in on SinoVac but it cannot be much different to Sinopharm as they both are similar.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="https://elakiri.com/threads/%E0%B7%80%E0%B6%A0%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%BB%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%80%E0%B6%BD%E0%B7%8F-%E0%B6%9C%E0%B7%84%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B7%83%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%9C%E0%B7%86%E0%B7%8F%E0%B6%B8%E0%B7%8A-95-%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%A7%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%A7%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%BD%E0%B7%8A-%E0%B6%B6%E0%B7%9C%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%80%E0%B6%A7-%E0%B6%85%E0%B7%84%E0%B7%94-%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%99%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B6%91%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%8F.1999632/post-26671424" target="_blank">Wednesday at 3:08 PM</a></li> </ul><p>On a cursory glance at the paper what they say is -</p><p>"95% of the vaccinees seroconverted, although the seroconversion rates were significantly lower (p<0.001) in individuals >60 years (93.3%) compared to those who were 20 to 39 years (98.9%)......"</p><p></p><p>Note that this is <strong>does not refer to the vaccine’s efficacy at all</strong>, it simply is the <strong>vaccine’s seroconversion</strong> rate. The seroconversion rate detects whether the vaccine<strong> produces COVID-19 antibodies.</strong></p><p></p><p>This is almost <strong>reinventing</strong> the wheel probably because the Chinese since last December 2020 or before said their vaccines have a <strong>seroconversion rate of 97%</strong>. But they never published the efficacy. Only roundabout figures were used from the Gulf areas.</p><p></p><p>The seroconversion rate is not a proof that the vaccine protects against COVID-19 or the vaccine efficacy is 93%. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/P.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":P" title=":P :P" data-shortname=":P" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="imhotep, post: 26686433, member: 562115"] Posted for those who like to know the concerns and the truth about the Chinese vaccines. Others can ignore and stay high. I have no problem with it. The CoronaVac vaccine has been developed by Sinovac Biotech in China and is based on the inactivated whole-virus. This vaccine has been approved for emergency use in Thailand and has also been used in vaccination programs in many low-income countries. Infections in Thailand contain the B.1.1.7 (Alpha), B.1.351 (Beta), and B.1.617.2 (Delta) variants. A new study evaluates the efficacy of[B] vaccine- and infection-induced antibodies[/B] against these variants. The team assessed NAb potency against the prototypic strain containing the original spike sequence (WT) compared to that against the 3 VOCs using sera derived from a cohort of [B]healthcare workers who received a full 2-dose regimen of CoronaVac[/B]. Sera from two other cohorts consisting of COVID-19 [B]patients who had been hospitalized in 2020 and 2021 [/B]were evaluated for comparison. We found that, despite equally robust production of S1-RBD-binding IgG and 100% seropositivity, This is their conclusion. "Although NAb titers are not an exclusive immune correlate of protection, they are highly predictive of immune protection from symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. Based on our data, although there was robust production of S1-RBD-binding IgG and 100% seropositivity, NAb-mediated protection was markedly reduced (and in many cases undetectable) against the 3 VOCs compared to WT in sera from all groups. NAb potency against Alpha and Beta were comparable in our CoronaVac vaccinee sera; this is inconsistent with a previous report that Beta shows more resistance to neutralization than Alpha in CoronaVac vaccinee sera collected 14 days after the second dose when tested using a pseudovirus neutralization assay. Worryingly, the Delta strain, which is the most transmissible, possibly among the most virulent of all VOCs identified to date , and is rapidly becoming a dominant strain in many countries, appears to be most refractory to neutralization.[B] Lastly, our study highlights a low degree of neutralization-afforded protection mounted by CoronaVac when compared to natural infection.[/B] [B]Further booster doses, heterologous or otherwise, beyond the conventional 2-dose regimen may be needed to maintain long-term anamnestic response[/B]. We also underscore a potential risk for reinfection in previously infected individuals, particularly with VOCs. Amid steady NAb decay over time and the continued emergence of divergent SARS-CoV-2 strains, it is imperative to maintain effective mitigation strategies and to continue monitoring vaccine efficiency in areas with circulating VOCs." PS: The take home message is highlighted in the above paragraph. In layman terms[B] NAb titers elicited by CoronaVac are much lower when compared to natural infection. Also they will need a booster from another vaccine for long term protection.[/B] PPS: This is similar to what Pani Jay and the Sri J team carried out recently and made a big celebration. But the facts are far from it. Below is what I wrote on that thread as a reply. The Thai team [B]enforces what I said[/B]. Note this study in on SinoVac but it cannot be much different to Sinopharm as they both are similar. [LIST] [*][URL='https://elakiri.com/threads/%E0%B7%80%E0%B6%A0%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B6%9A%E0%B6%BB%E0%B6%9A%E0%B7%80%E0%B6%BD%E0%B7%8F-%E0%B6%9C%E0%B7%84%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B7%83%E0%B6%BA%E0%B7%92%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%9C%E0%B7%86%E0%B7%8F%E0%B6%B8%E0%B7%8A-95-%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%A7%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%A7%E0%B6%B4%E0%B6%BD%E0%B7%8A-%E0%B6%B6%E0%B7%9C%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%94%E0%B7%80%E0%B6%A7-%E0%B6%85%E0%B7%84%E0%B7%94-%E0%B7%80%E0%B7%99%E0%B6%B1%E0%B7%8A%E0%B6%B1-%E0%B6%91%E0%B6%B4%E0%B7%8F.1999632/post-26671424']Wednesday at 3:08 PM[/URL] [/LIST] On a cursory glance at the paper what they say is - "95% of the vaccinees seroconverted, although the seroconversion rates were significantly lower (p<0.001) in individuals >60 years (93.3%) compared to those who were 20 to 39 years (98.9%)......" Note that this is [B]does not refer to the vaccine’s efficacy at all[/B], it simply is the [B]vaccine’s seroconversion[/B] rate. The seroconversion rate detects whether the vaccine[B] produces COVID-19 antibodies.[/B] This is almost [B]reinventing[/B] the wheel probably because the Chinese since last December 2020 or before said their vaccines have a [B]seroconversion rate of 97%[/B]. But they never published the efficacy. Only roundabout figures were used from the Gulf areas. The seroconversion rate is not a proof that the vaccine protects against COVID-19 or the vaccine efficacy is 93%. :P [/QUOTE]
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