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<blockquote data-quote="Mononoke" data-source="post: 5598543" data-attributes="member: 238323"><p>I would normally personally answer all of these questions, but its something like 5 in the morning and I can't my damn code to run. </p><p></p><p>So instead, I'm going to point to a <a href="http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-creationists.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: Blue">website </span></a>that would pretty much answer all of these questions thoroughly. If there are some naging doubts especially, on the psuedo-physcics ones post your doubts on this page and I will gladly answer you.</p><p></p><p>Having said that some of these claims are farcical.</p><p></p><p>I'm pretty sure even I can personally find more than 600 scientists with who beleive in Darwin. For more on the number of scientist who support evolution google '<span style="color: Blue"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve" target="_blank">project steve</a></span>'.</p><p></p><p>Then there are meaningless claims like these</p><p>Of course the term living and non living aren't given definition here, but more importantly a light year is no different from an earth year. And it took 2 billion of those for Amino acids and RNA to become 'living organisms', according to evolutionary theory. </p><p></p><p></p><p>We use the term singularity in the purely technical sense to mean breaking down of general relativity. In laymen terms things are so closely packed together at big bang stage current scientific theories cannot adequately explain the particle interactions and their time evolutions. So infinite density of the singularity is a misnomer. Furthermore, WTF! Exponential expansion of the universe doesn't imply anything other than the nature and orientation of matter and energy along with their interactions as governed by the physical laws. We don't need god to expand the universe we only need the four forces.</p><p></p><p>Firstly, the author doesn't understand the meaning of the term <strong>exponential. </strong>The universe doesn't expand exponentially, the expansion curve of universe can be roughly approximated as <strong>linear</strong>. This shows the lack of knowledge of these people.</p><p></p><p>The cosmological constant first appears in Einstein's field equation in General Relativity. It's the upside down V.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/6/e/06e819edcf2c1e8cc5d4cff138d92e4a.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>but later, einstein himself recanted saying, the cosmological constant is his greatest blunder. But lately it seems that there is empirical evidence of the cosmological constant. Theoretical implication of this empirical result are not well understood. At this point the implications of the cosmological constant about the greater structure of the universe are only hypothesis, and not fact. </p><p></p><p>All of this seems to be leading towards the argument the universe is fine tuned, there is an order to it. Yes, there is order to the universe, but fine tuned towards what. Certainly not life, the overwhelming majority of the universe is in hospitable towards life as we know it. </p><p></p><p>Causation doesn't imply Agency. For more on this please look at what I have written on the two posts below:</p><p></p><p>1)<a href="http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246010" target="_blank">http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246010</a></p><p>2)<a href="http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245567" target="_blank">http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245567</a></p><p></p><p>Then there is this Lie:</p><p></p><p>The universe is homogeneous and isotropic, what this means is that regardless of where you are in the universe. It will look the same in every direction. This is a consequence of general relativity which says that the universe is non-euclidean in geometry, and conforms to a form of Poincaré space. There is nothing unique about the position of earth.</p><p></p><p>I think i have said more than I was originally intending to. I hate it when people who fundamentally don't understand science, start rambling about scientific evidence to creation. If you are a Catholic, then go to the Pontificial Academy of Science website or read the christian science monitor, both of these offer respectable and correct appraisals of how science and religion interact. I hope you weren't offended by anything I have said.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mononoke, post: 5598543, member: 238323"] I would normally personally answer all of these questions, but its something like 5 in the morning and I can't my damn code to run. So instead, I'm going to point to a [URL="http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-creationists.html"][COLOR=Blue]website [/COLOR][/URL]that would pretty much answer all of these questions thoroughly. If there are some naging doubts especially, on the psuedo-physcics ones post your doubts on this page and I will gladly answer you. Having said that some of these claims are farcical. I'm pretty sure even I can personally find more than 600 scientists with who beleive in Darwin. For more on the number of scientist who support evolution google '[COLOR=Blue][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve"]project steve[/URL][/COLOR]'. Then there are meaningless claims like these Of course the term living and non living aren't given definition here, but more importantly a light year is no different from an earth year. And it took 2 billion of those for Amino acids and RNA to become 'living organisms', according to evolutionary theory. We use the term singularity in the purely technical sense to mean breaking down of general relativity. In laymen terms things are so closely packed together at big bang stage current scientific theories cannot adequately explain the particle interactions and their time evolutions. So infinite density of the singularity is a misnomer. Furthermore, WTF! Exponential expansion of the universe doesn't imply anything other than the nature and orientation of matter and energy along with their interactions as governed by the physical laws. We don't need god to expand the universe we only need the four forces. Firstly, the author doesn't understand the meaning of the term [B]exponential. [/B]The universe doesn't expand exponentially, the expansion curve of universe can be roughly approximated as [B]linear[/B]. This shows the lack of knowledge of these people. The cosmological constant first appears in Einstein's field equation in General Relativity. It's the upside down V. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/6/e/06e819edcf2c1e8cc5d4cff138d92e4a.png[/IMG] but later, einstein himself recanted saying, the cosmological constant is his greatest blunder. But lately it seems that there is empirical evidence of the cosmological constant. Theoretical implication of this empirical result are not well understood. At this point the implications of the cosmological constant about the greater structure of the universe are only hypothesis, and not fact. All of this seems to be leading towards the argument the universe is fine tuned, there is an order to it. Yes, there is order to the universe, but fine tuned towards what. Certainly not life, the overwhelming majority of the universe is in hospitable towards life as we know it. Causation doesn't imply Agency. For more on this please look at what I have written on the two posts below: 1)[URL]http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246010[/URL] 2)[URL]http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=245567[/URL] Then there is this Lie: The universe is homogeneous and isotropic, what this means is that regardless of where you are in the universe. It will look the same in every direction. This is a consequence of general relativity which says that the universe is non-euclidean in geometry, and conforms to a form of Poincaré space. There is nothing unique about the position of earth. I think i have said more than I was originally intending to. I hate it when people who fundamentally don't understand science, start rambling about scientific evidence to creation. If you are a Catholic, then go to the Pontificial Academy of Science website or read the christian science monitor, both of these offer respectable and correct appraisals of how science and religion interact. I hope you weren't offended by anything I have said. [/QUOTE]
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