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<blockquote data-quote="sirajstc" data-source="post: 6303027" data-attributes="member: 91140"><p><strong><img src="http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/bismillah.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></strong></p><p><strong><img src="http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/assalam.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></strong></p><p><strong>The Quran Verse;</strong></p><p><strong><strong><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p></strong></strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: Red">Smite at their necks</span></span></p></strong></strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p></strong></strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>There are certain anti-Islamic people out there who often claim the Quran is a book of terror, that it orders the death and destruction of all none-believers, one of the most common verses they use to prove their argument is verse 4 of Surah Muhammad which is the 47th Surah in the Noble Quran. The verse reads:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>047.004 </strong></p><p><strong>YUSUFALI: <span style="color: Indigo"><u><em>Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; </em></u></span>At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them,<u><em><span style="color: Indigo"> bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom:</span></em></u> Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The non-Muslims quote this and start claiming terrorism and murder. However so is that the case? Or is the same case as always, that the non-Muslim is simply being dis-honest with themselves, and their fellow people. Well you make that choice after the explanation is given. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Let us analyse this verse to see if it does truly preach terrorism or not. Obviously the part that non-Muslims use the most with this verse is when it reads:</strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Indigo"><em><u></u></em></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: Indigo"><em><u></u></em></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Indigo"><em><u>Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks;</u></em></span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The verse is referring to battle, and war, that in a battle, when we meet the unbelieving army that we should aim for the neck. Is that terrorism, is that barbaric? Off course not, this is very logical, and this is the harsh reality of wars and battles, people get killed, and people go into a battle and war with the intention of killing their enemy. It is like if an army gives you instructions on how to attack your enemy during combat, would that be classified as terrorism? Off course it wouldn't, so why is it classed as terrorism or barbarity when the Quran gives Muslims instructions on how they should fight during a battle with an enemy? </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>So therefore there is nothing wrong with this part of the verse, it does not preach terrorism, or barbarity, not even close! </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The second part of the verse that the non-Muslim has a problem with is when it reads:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><u><em><span style="color: Indigo"></span></em></u></strong></p><p><strong><u><em><span style="color: Indigo">bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom</span></em></u></strong></p><p><strong><u><em><span style="color: Indigo"></span></em></u></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>What exactly is wrong with this command? Logically after a battle there is a winner and a loser, and obviously after a battle several enemy combatants will come into the hands of the opposition, and logically they will be taken in as prisoners and held for ransom. Is this cruel? Is this barbarity? Not even close, this is the simply the harsh reality of war, in war and battle you risk death, and you risk capture, this is the reality of such events. Secondly, notice that the verse even says the prisoners can be released out of generosity! Basically a ransom is not the only means of freedom, a Muslim has two options, either let the person go out of your own generosity, or if you want, you can get a ransom out of the prisoner. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>So in conclusion this verse preaches no terrorism, it preaches no barbarity, all it gives are commands for the Muslims on how they should fight their enemy during battle, and what they should do with any prisoners they have. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>And Allah Knows Best!</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong> <strong><img src="http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/bismillah.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></strong></p><p><strong><img src="http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/assalam.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong><em><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></span></em></strong></p></strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong><em><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 18px">The Bible Confirms the Quran </span></span></em></strong></p></strong></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><strong><em><span style="color: Red"><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></span></em></strong></p><p></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Christian missionaries and apologists have been arguing that the Quran completely backs the present day Bible we have in our hands, this indeed is a very interesting false claim, but since they want to cling to this argument I thought I would actually turn the tables on them, showing that in fact it is their Bible which confirms the Quran! </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Now if a Christian doesn't agree and so on I say that's too bad, I am going to be exactly like Christian missionaries and apologists. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>With that said let us give the proof that the Bible does infact confirm the Quran, 1 John 4:1-6 reads:</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Sienna"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Sienna">Dear friends, do not believe<u><em><span style="color: blue"> every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God,</span></em></u> because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist, that you have heard is coming, and now is already in the world. You are from God, little children, and have conquered them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world's perspective and the world listens to them. We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit." 1 John 4:1-6</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: Sienna"></span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>So notice the Bible says that anyone who confesses that Jesus is the Christ is from God, that they are a good person, not a false satanic anti-Christ. Well let us read what the Quran says:</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: Sienna"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Sienna">003.045 </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Sienna">YUSUFALI: Behold! the angels said: <span style="color: blue"><u>"O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus,</u></span> the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah; </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: Sienna"></span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The Quran calls Jesus the Christ, the Messiah, hence according to the Bible the Quran must be of God since it confirms that Jesus is the Christ! Hence as you can see according to the Bible the Quran must be from God, and its followers are also on the path of following the true message since we Muslims affirm that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>So therefore Christians must stop attacking the Quran, to do so means they reject their Bible and are attacking a book and people that their own Bible praises! Hence Christians who attack the Quran are in fact soldiers of the anti-Christ since they are attacking a book and people who bear witness that Jesus is indeed the Christ, Christians attack this hence this means they are the opposite of this hence making them the anti-Christ's army!</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>And Allah Certainly knows Best</strong></p><p> <strong><img src="http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/assalam.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/SMILY346.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sirajstc, post: 6303027, member: 91140"] [B][IMG]http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/bismillah.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/assalam.gif[/IMG] The Quran Verse; [B][CENTER][SIZE=5] [COLOR=Red]Smite at their necks[/COLOR] [/SIZE][/CENTER] [/B] There are certain anti-Islamic people out there who often claim the Quran is a book of terror, that it orders the death and destruction of all none-believers, one of the most common verses they use to prove their argument is verse 4 of Surah Muhammad which is the 47th Surah in the Noble Quran. The verse reads: 047.004 YUSUFALI: [COLOR=Indigo][U][I]Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; [/I][/U][/COLOR]At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them,[U][I][COLOR=Indigo] bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom:[/COLOR][/I][/U] Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost. The non-Muslims quote this and start claiming terrorism and murder. However so is that the case? Or is the same case as always, that the non-Muslim is simply being dis-honest with themselves, and their fellow people. Well you make that choice after the explanation is given. Let us analyse this verse to see if it does truly preach terrorism or not. Obviously the part that non-Muslims use the most with this verse is when it reads: [COLOR=Indigo][I][U] Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks;[/U][/I][/COLOR] The verse is referring to battle, and war, that in a battle, when we meet the unbelieving army that we should aim for the neck. Is that terrorism, is that barbaric? Off course not, this is very logical, and this is the harsh reality of wars and battles, people get killed, and people go into a battle and war with the intention of killing their enemy. It is like if an army gives you instructions on how to attack your enemy during combat, would that be classified as terrorism? Off course it wouldn't, so why is it classed as terrorism or barbarity when the Quran gives Muslims instructions on how they should fight during a battle with an enemy? So therefore there is nothing wrong with this part of the verse, it does not preach terrorism, or barbarity, not even close! The second part of the verse that the non-Muslim has a problem with is when it reads: [U][I][COLOR=Indigo] bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom [/COLOR][/I][/U] What exactly is wrong with this command? Logically after a battle there is a winner and a loser, and obviously after a battle several enemy combatants will come into the hands of the opposition, and logically they will be taken in as prisoners and held for ransom. Is this cruel? Is this barbarity? Not even close, this is the simply the harsh reality of war, in war and battle you risk death, and you risk capture, this is the reality of such events. Secondly, notice that the verse even says the prisoners can be released out of generosity! Basically a ransom is not the only means of freedom, a Muslim has two options, either let the person go out of your own generosity, or if you want, you can get a ransom out of the prisoner. So in conclusion this verse preaches no terrorism, it preaches no barbarity, all it gives are commands for the Muslims on how they should fight their enemy during battle, and what they should do with any prisoners they have. And Allah Knows Best! [/B] [B][IMG]http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/bismillah.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/assalam.gif[/IMG] [CENTER][B][I][COLOR=Red][SIZE=5] The Bible Confirms the Quran [/SIZE][/COLOR][/I][/B][/CENTER] Christian missionaries and apologists have been arguing that the Quran completely backs the present day Bible we have in our hands, this indeed is a very interesting false claim, but since they want to cling to this argument I thought I would actually turn the tables on them, showing that in fact it is their Bible which confirms the Quran! Now if a Christian doesn't agree and so on I say that's too bad, I am going to be exactly like Christian missionaries and apologists. With that said let us give the proof that the Bible does infact confirm the Quran, 1 John 4:1-6 reads: [COLOR=Sienna] Dear friends, do not believe[U][I][COLOR=blue] every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God,[/COLOR][/I][/U] because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist, that you have heard is coming, and now is already in the world. You are from God, little children, and have conquered them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world's perspective and the world listens to them. We are from God; the person who knows God listens to us, but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of deceit." 1 John 4:1-6 [/COLOR] So notice the Bible says that anyone who confesses that Jesus is the Christ is from God, that they are a good person, not a false satanic anti-Christ. Well let us read what the Quran says: [COLOR=Sienna] 003.045 YUSUFALI: Behold! the angels said: [COLOR=blue][U]"O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus,[/U][/COLOR] the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah; [/COLOR] The Quran calls Jesus the Christ, the Messiah, hence according to the Bible the Quran must be of God since it confirms that Jesus is the Christ! Hence as you can see according to the Bible the Quran must be from God, and its followers are also on the path of following the true message since we Muslims affirm that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. So therefore Christians must stop attacking the Quran, to do so means they reject their Bible and are attacking a book and people that their own Bible praises! Hence Christians who attack the Quran are in fact soldiers of the anti-Christ since they are attacking a book and people who bear witness that Jesus is indeed the Christ, Christians attack this hence this means they are the opposite of this hence making them the anti-Christ's army! And Allah Certainly knows Best [IMG]http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/assalam.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/images/smilies/SMILY346.gif[/IMG][/B] [/QUOTE]
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