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<blockquote data-quote="sri_lion" data-source="post: 2269386" data-attributes="member: 4103"><p>Oh! you were asking when person does commit a crime does he know its good or bad? Ofcourse he knows.... so what's the difference between you and the criminal? If dont have money I think of robbing a bank...<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> (seriously sometimes <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />) but if I attempt it.. aha... then I'm a criminal.. so there lies a gap between thinking about it and dare to try it... right? that daring act is the one that matters and should be contained and tamed self-contained...</p><p></p><p>Anyhow would'nt it be better if people understand the bad side of crime and staying away from it than scared of getting their limbs chopped off? You'd say its the same result... I'd come to that later!!!</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Aha...there you go! you missed the point but you bought up a perfect example for me to explain the word "deserving" that you used earlier!!</p><p></p><p>According to your scenario... A guy rapes and murders... Now that's 2 crimes right there according to our legal system... rape & murder... and if you take rape there are many categories that the criminal belongs to such as..</p><p></p><p>Rape, Aggravated Rape, Statutory Rape, Incest etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>For each of these.. the punishment also varies... for example for Rape a criminal would get up to 20 Years Imprisonment + Fine + Compensation for Victim</p><p></p><p>for Aggravated Rape Minimum punishment would be 10 years plus all other "bonuses" <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p>And according to your scenario the guy now faces 2 charges... rape and murder and 2 punishment...1 for rape / aggravated rape that will cost him 20 years + capital punishment or life imprisonment for murder + Fine + Compensation for Victim.....and murder is totally a different arena mind you!</p><p></p><p>So lets say yet another guy get caught raping someone else, but not killing her....then probably he will get 7 to 20 years in prison... now that's deserving.. because he is lesser criminal than the earlier guy who not only raped but killed!! </p><p></p><p>So rehab is just a part of it working alongside this system...its NOT THE ONLY THING!!!</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yup.. Lets hope Arabs will quit smoking too..</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Aiyo!!! Dont type whatever comes to your mind.... I said mostly the root cause is <strong>MONEY</strong>, and there are separate rules to punish such people.. dont you know? Next time smack a lady in the face and see for yourself..get 1st hand experience!!!<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Coming back to this question from the 1st section..... (Because I think its related)</p><p></p><p>I dont understand why would you think the system is not important.. because we are comparing two different streams of ruling... A Democracy and a Monarchy so each have different ways of ruling people!</p><p></p><p>Maybe you are trying so hard to tell that the at the end what is more practical that does matters.... but the way we do it is not important to you? that does reminds me of "helmet"..<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> You know what we used to call putting a "helmet" for O/L, sending someone else for the exam...you may send someone into the exam and get better results or you write yourself and get avg. results.. you may pass in any case but you gotta know what's more ethical!!</p><p></p><p>Last time I checked... there was never a country converted from Democracy to a Monarchy infact it was the other way around...the most recent example being Bhutan...and Democracy is accountable for all people's rights regardless of the nature of their behavior and that includes criminals too! So we can never have some sort of a Monarchy+Democracy Hybrid mix law <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="LOL :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> this doesn't happen...... So you either respect everyone's rights and stay democratic or ignore people's rights and start chopping limbs off and be a Monarchy fan boy.... it is up to you!</p><p></p><p>And lastly I quote from you..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sri_lion, post: 2269386, member: 4103"] Oh! you were asking when person does commit a crime does he know its good or bad? Ofcourse he knows.... so what's the difference between you and the criminal? If dont have money I think of robbing a bank...:lol: (seriously sometimes :lol:) but if I attempt it.. aha... then I'm a criminal.. so there lies a gap between thinking about it and dare to try it... right? that daring act is the one that matters and should be contained and tamed self-contained... Anyhow would'nt it be better if people understand the bad side of crime and staying away from it than scared of getting their limbs chopped off? You'd say its the same result... I'd come to that later!!! Aha...there you go! you missed the point but you bought up a perfect example for me to explain the word "deserving" that you used earlier!! According to your scenario... A guy rapes and murders... Now that's 2 crimes right there according to our legal system... rape & murder... and if you take rape there are many categories that the criminal belongs to such as.. Rape, Aggravated Rape, Statutory Rape, Incest etc. etc. For each of these.. the punishment also varies... for example for Rape a criminal would get up to 20 Years Imprisonment + Fine + Compensation for Victim for Aggravated Rape Minimum punishment would be 10 years plus all other "bonuses" :lol: And according to your scenario the guy now faces 2 charges... rape and murder and 2 punishment...1 for rape / aggravated rape that will cost him 20 years + capital punishment or life imprisonment for murder + Fine + Compensation for Victim.....and murder is totally a different arena mind you! So lets say yet another guy get caught raping someone else, but not killing her....then probably he will get 7 to 20 years in prison... now that's deserving.. because he is lesser criminal than the earlier guy who not only raped but killed!! So rehab is just a part of it working alongside this system...its NOT THE ONLY THING!!! Yup.. Lets hope Arabs will quit smoking too.. Aiyo!!! Dont type whatever comes to your mind.... I said mostly the root cause is [B]MONEY[/B], and there are separate rules to punish such people.. dont you know? Next time smack a lady in the face and see for yourself..get 1st hand experience!!!:lol::lol::lol: Coming back to this question from the 1st section..... (Because I think its related) I dont understand why would you think the system is not important.. because we are comparing two different streams of ruling... A Democracy and a Monarchy so each have different ways of ruling people! Maybe you are trying so hard to tell that the at the end what is more practical that does matters.... but the way we do it is not important to you? that does reminds me of "helmet"..:lol: You know what we used to call putting a "helmet" for O/L, sending someone else for the exam...you may send someone into the exam and get better results or you write yourself and get avg. results.. you may pass in any case but you gotta know what's more ethical!! Last time I checked... there was never a country converted from Democracy to a Monarchy infact it was the other way around...the most recent example being Bhutan...and Democracy is accountable for all people's rights regardless of the nature of their behavior and that includes criminals too! So we can never have some sort of a Monarchy+Democracy Hybrid mix law :lol: this doesn't happen...... So you either respect everyone's rights and stay democratic or ignore people's rights and start chopping limbs off and be a Monarchy fan boy.... it is up to you! And lastly I quote from you.. [/QUOTE]
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