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<blockquote data-quote="firoz85" data-source="post: 7672270" data-attributes="member: 22060"><p>Aisha (R.A) lived on a long life and died of old age ! The onus is on you to show that she was sick or she faced complications or even to show that she refuted the marriage ! During or after the Prophets lifetime !</p><p></p><p>Up until the recent past it was a common practice to marry off girls just as they attain the age of puberty because women were exposed to the responsibilies at a much younger age than the popcorn and bugs bunny cultured children of today ! If you really want a complete explaination and have the patience to listen then check out</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTyKmTaIwko" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTyKmTaIwko</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWb92lY-llw&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWb92lY-llw&feature=related</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well yes ! She could have if she wanted to ! Women use to come to the prophet with pleas and complaints during his prophethood ! So yeah if she wanted to , and if she was forced to she could have spoken ill about all of it during the many years she lived on after the prophet !</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well all of the above is sidetalk untill you tell me what your yardstick is (basis of judging right and wrong) ! So if its not budhism then i take it is secular ! your 'judgment' and 'namecalling' is based on secular views of 'right and wrong' . If that is the case,the secular 'view of right and wrong' is subjective! And subjectively , in that time and space , there is nothing wrong with the marriage ! In fact NONE of the enemies of the prophet at that took it up as issue and not until the very recent past ! Besides right and wrong cannot be 'subjective' but must be 'objective' ! Anyways my basic question is what is your source of right and wrong !?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"I have created the jinn and humankind only for My worship" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 51, Verse 56 . Ive answered this before ! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you yourself beleive in 'karma' and some aspects of the life of budha (as posted in a previous thread -the life of Budha in pictures-and aspects like vanishing into nothingness,reincarnation,his sermon to the gods) , then that by your own standards is also illogical and 'fairytale'.</p><p></p><p>If you do beleive in God and at the same dont beleive that He is Omnipotent , that is a paradox ! If you are not able to understand God in totality or just because the world is not the way you want it to be , it does not mean He is not Omnipotent nor does it mean that God does not exist ! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If by what you state , Budha went according to what <strong>was commonly accepted at that time </strong> and there is no rules as to when/who you can marry and who you cannot then the prophets marriage is not wrong even by Budhist principles ! This compatible age theory is again vague unless ofcourse compatible is clearly defined in budhism ! This would mean that a 20 year old man/woman who marries another 50 year old is wrong or even if a 5 year ord marries another 5 year old even lthough none of them have gone through puberty , this would be completely ok !</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you saying that that all the time he spent with his family and his son , there was absolutely no truth or purpose in it ? That there was no truth in the the joy and peace of his spouse , his family , his son ? That is was not substantial ? All these will only bring suffering so to attain ultimate purpose of life (which is to vanish to nothingness) we should forego or not even desire these things ! </p><p></p><p>Let me clarify this truth again 'to desire means to suffer' so we should completely 'desire nothing so we never suffer at all' ! This is the ultimate sacrifice for the ultimate prize which is to 'vanish into nothingness ?'</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is what i mean by vague ! 'There is an ultimate purpose , but if you dont want to you can lead other ways ' , that defies the purpose of there being one ultimate goal in life in the first place ! Thats like saying , stop at red but if you dont want to .....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="firoz85, post: 7672270, member: 22060"] Aisha (R.A) lived on a long life and died of old age ! The onus is on you to show that she was sick or she faced complications or even to show that she refuted the marriage ! During or after the Prophets lifetime ! Up until the recent past it was a common practice to marry off girls just as they attain the age of puberty because women were exposed to the responsibilies at a much younger age than the popcorn and bugs bunny cultured children of today ! If you really want a complete explaination and have the patience to listen then check out [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTyKmTaIwko[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWb92lY-llw&feature=related[/url] Well yes ! She could have if she wanted to ! Women use to come to the prophet with pleas and complaints during his prophethood ! So yeah if she wanted to , and if she was forced to she could have spoken ill about all of it during the many years she lived on after the prophet ! Well all of the above is sidetalk untill you tell me what your yardstick is (basis of judging right and wrong) ! So if its not budhism then i take it is secular ! your 'judgment' and 'namecalling' is based on secular views of 'right and wrong' . If that is the case,the secular 'view of right and wrong' is subjective! And subjectively , in that time and space , there is nothing wrong with the marriage ! In fact NONE of the enemies of the prophet at that took it up as issue and not until the very recent past ! Besides right and wrong cannot be 'subjective' but must be 'objective' ! Anyways my basic question is what is your source of right and wrong !? "I have created the jinn and humankind only for My worship" The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 51, Verse 56 . Ive answered this before ! If you yourself beleive in 'karma' and some aspects of the life of budha (as posted in a previous thread -the life of Budha in pictures-and aspects like vanishing into nothingness,reincarnation,his sermon to the gods) , then that by your own standards is also illogical and 'fairytale'. If you do beleive in God and at the same dont beleive that He is Omnipotent , that is a paradox ! If you are not able to understand God in totality or just because the world is not the way you want it to be , it does not mean He is not Omnipotent nor does it mean that God does not exist ! If by what you state , Budha went according to what [B]was commonly accepted at that time [/B] and there is no rules as to when/who you can marry and who you cannot then the prophets marriage is not wrong even by Budhist principles ! This compatible age theory is again vague unless ofcourse compatible is clearly defined in budhism ! This would mean that a 20 year old man/woman who marries another 50 year old is wrong or even if a 5 year ord marries another 5 year old even lthough none of them have gone through puberty , this would be completely ok ! Are you saying that that all the time he spent with his family and his son , there was absolutely no truth or purpose in it ? That there was no truth in the the joy and peace of his spouse , his family , his son ? That is was not substantial ? All these will only bring suffering so to attain ultimate purpose of life (which is to vanish to nothingness) we should forego or not even desire these things ! Let me clarify this truth again 'to desire means to suffer' so we should completely 'desire nothing so we never suffer at all' ! This is the ultimate sacrifice for the ultimate prize which is to 'vanish into nothingness ?' This is what i mean by vague ! 'There is an ultimate purpose , but if you dont want to you can lead other ways ' , that defies the purpose of there being one ultimate goal in life in the first place ! Thats like saying , stop at red but if you dont want to ..... [/QUOTE]
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