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<blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 7879527" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">No. Why would I believe that? Yes they all are talking about a fictional character. But the concepts have minor differences and they have different practices so they are not talking about the same GOD. </span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">According to Buddhist scriptures Maithreya is a Buddha.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The history of the religions. I meant how the concept of religion came in to being, how it evolved and how the concept affected the major religions etc. No one can know the history of all specific religions. I thought you are smart enough to understand what I meant and I assumed you are smart enough to realize I would never say I know the history of all the specific religions. Will be careful from now on.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Again missing the point. Who is the last prophet? If your answer is Muhammad, what proof do you have to say so?</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">This is true. Hinduism originally speaks of ONE GOD. Also being one of the oldest religions in the world, most abrahamic religions have copied its concepts. This happened through out the history of religions. One religion copying other and emerging. How ever I have made an error. Hinduism originated as a monotheistic religion to the best of my knowledge.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">What do you mean? What other scriptures?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I fail to see the relevance of this.</span></span> </p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Indeed I went through all your so called evidences and found no evidence at all. If you want I can give you links that include lengthy explanation on how Dr.Zakir Naik has mistranslated some of the hindu purans, which are of course written in sanskript. According to these sanskript experts, some of the purans do mentione about a person named Muhammad, who will start a demonic religion and bring much destruction, etc. So as I mentioned, I have already done research on these things. I have not yet found any authentic prophecy in a religious scripture about Muhammad. I have found bunch of mistranslations from people like Zakir Naik(Whome I consider as a highly irrational person) and other people denying it. So it's a debatable issue, not evidence. Also to the best of my knowledge purans are not the main religious scriptures of Hindus.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">From what I can see, people try to link two random things in two books and make up a story to suit their purpose.</span></span> </p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">There we go..(Claps)... we are finally here.<span style="color: Red"> It is in the book right</span>?? So it gotta be true.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Seriously you can't see the hypocrisy here? Let me make it clear. Since this little statement sums up my whole point. What proves that Muhammad is a prophet? (I know your what answer is gonna be, it is said in the book right?)</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">There we go again. Of course it has to be in the book. I predicted that this would come to this. ( I wonder whether that makes me a prophet or something)</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Yes of course, you can believe whatever you want. It doesn't make it true. And no other scripture really supports it.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Nope, I'm quite positive john was talking about joseph smith here.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">What poor logic to prove .... Hmm, what are you trying to prove with this?</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Heh, thank you for your attempt. I appreciate it. I can assure you I have gotten the concept clearly. My research on the advancement of religions, clearly showed a pattern. All religions are man made. Man invented it to overcome the fear of death, something he cannot understand. He wanted something to cling in to so that the horrific feeling of "everything might end up when I die" can be conquered. Muhammad copied most of his ideas from the Christianity and Judaism. In fact it is really hard to find any original concept in Islam, that was already not there at the time. Muhammad just painted a better picture with 72 virgins and etc. To understand you only need to begin questioning what is not logical. The satan just like everything else is a man made concept.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Thanks, but I can think for my self. I do not need an unknown being to tell me what to do. I can assure you I have studied qaran, and many other religious books, with an open mind. I have done much research. Any path leading to a imaginary falsehood is waste of time. And don't assume I do not know about what you are talking about. This is not the first time I'm having a discussion like this.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Of course I know. I even know some people who believe in that, and I have spoken with them also. But if you ever get the chance to meet with one of them, you'll see that their ideas and concepts are very similar to yours. They just believe in what they believe, a different GOD. But what I find interesting is that most of their prophets or GOD(Satan) never have ordered slavery, mass murder, polygamy, child marriages, genocides, or many other immoral things most of those Abrahamic GODs did. In the end this all ends up in the same old question. What make you think your GOD is true and theirs is not? (They also have a book you know).</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">You don't need to find one. They are so similar conceptually one might even think they originated from the same root.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AncientGlory, post: 7879527, member: 262433"] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]No. Why would I believe that? Yes they all are talking about a fictional character. But the concepts have minor differences and they have different practices so they are not talking about the same GOD. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] According to Buddhist scriptures Maithreya is a Buddha.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]The history of the religions. I meant how the concept of religion came in to being, how it evolved and how the concept affected the major religions etc. No one can know the history of all specific religions. I thought you are smart enough to understand what I meant and I assumed you are smart enough to realize I would never say I know the history of all the specific religions. Will be careful from now on.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Again missing the point. Who is the last prophet? If your answer is Muhammad, what proof do you have to say so?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]This is true. Hinduism originally speaks of ONE GOD. Also being one of the oldest religions in the world, most abrahamic religions have copied its concepts. This happened through out the history of religions. One religion copying other and emerging. How ever I have made an error. Hinduism originated as a monotheistic religion to the best of my knowledge.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]What do you mean? What other scriptures?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] I fail to see the relevance of this.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Indeed I went through all your so called evidences and found no evidence at all. If you want I can give you links that include lengthy explanation on how Dr.Zakir Naik has mistranslated some of the hindu purans, which are of course written in sanskript. According to these sanskript experts, some of the purans do mentione about a person named Muhammad, who will start a demonic religion and bring much destruction, etc. So as I mentioned, I have already done research on these things. I have not yet found any authentic prophecy in a religious scripture about Muhammad. I have found bunch of mistranslations from people like Zakir Naik(Whome I consider as a highly irrational person) and other people denying it. So it's a debatable issue, not evidence. Also to the best of my knowledge purans are not the main religious scriptures of Hindus. From what I can see, people try to link two random things in two books and make up a story to suit their purpose.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]There we go..(Claps)... we are finally here.[COLOR=Red] It is in the book right[/COLOR]?? So it gotta be true.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Seriously you can't see the hypocrisy here? Let me make it clear. Since this little statement sums up my whole point. What proves that Muhammad is a prophet? (I know your what answer is gonna be, it is said in the book right?)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4] There we go again. Of course it has to be in the book. I predicted that this would come to this. ( I wonder whether that makes me a prophet or something)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Yes of course, you can believe whatever you want. It doesn't make it true. And no other scripture really supports it.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Nope, I'm quite positive john was talking about joseph smith here.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]What poor logic to prove .... Hmm, what are you trying to prove with this?[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Heh, thank you for your attempt. I appreciate it. I can assure you I have gotten the concept clearly. My research on the advancement of religions, clearly showed a pattern. All religions are man made. Man invented it to overcome the fear of death, something he cannot understand. He wanted something to cling in to so that the horrific feeling of "everything might end up when I die" can be conquered. Muhammad copied most of his ideas from the Christianity and Judaism. In fact it is really hard to find any original concept in Islam, that was already not there at the time. Muhammad just painted a better picture with 72 virgins and etc. To understand you only need to begin questioning what is not logical. The satan just like everything else is a man made concept.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Thanks, but I can think for my self. I do not need an unknown being to tell me what to do. I can assure you I have studied qaran, and many other religious books, with an open mind. I have done much research. Any path leading to a imaginary falsehood is waste of time. And don't assume I do not know about what you are talking about. This is not the first time I'm having a discussion like this.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]Of course I know. I even know some people who believe in that, and I have spoken with them also. But if you ever get the chance to meet with one of them, you'll see that their ideas and concepts are very similar to yours. They just believe in what they believe, a different GOD. But what I find interesting is that most of their prophets or GOD(Satan) never have ordered slavery, mass murder, polygamy, child marriages, genocides, or many other immoral things most of those Abrahamic GODs did. In the end this all ends up in the same old question. What make you think your GOD is true and theirs is not? (They also have a book you know).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]You don't need to find one. They are so similar conceptually one might even think they originated from the same root.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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