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<blockquote data-quote="Pizziesta" data-source="post: 8087565" data-attributes="member: 18310"><p>Force is the cause of an Action. It's like you are asking who made the force. There is an original force creating rest of actions. That original force is what people refer as 'God'. What's your view about the original force? From where did that come from? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All these lame stories have come up because people are unaware of true concepts. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Angels and demons, the book is a fiction that takes people away from the reality of real illuminati = Freemasons+Zionists. What the book says is no where near to what the real illuminati is. </p><p></p><p>It's like you talking about magic, and I'm saying I have read Harry Potter. So that's what happened. =) </p><p></p><p>Indeed, all these misconceptions are the productivity of illuminati tricks. See how hard we try to come to a common term regarding them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What i see that somewhere there is a point that makes the other person still stick to what he knows. I guess it is how we define GOD'S WILL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This world is a place of trial. We're beings with 'free will'. Remember this first. For a trial to happen there has to be options. </p><p></p><p>Eg; Writing for an exam. </p><p></p><p>The exam questions, and everything else in it, are according to Examiner's will. That doesn't mean you fail the test cos of HIS will, does it? What has happened is that HE have given options. </p><p></p><p>Look at the smoking example. You don't smoke cos of His Will. </p><p></p><p>His Will is to create an opportunity for you to choose either to smoke or not to smoke. Both options are under His Permission since this is a test. Just like the Examiner permits to fail or pass. It doesn't mean the Examiner wants someone to Fail. Even failing is happening under His permission as it is a criteria in a Test. </p><p></p><p>So both fail and pass happens under the Will of Examiner. But noway either options are forced. </p><p></p><p>Hope you understood the point I'm trying to convey.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. </p><p></p><p>Eg; The questions and the exam are according to Examiner's will. You are failing or passing cos of your choices. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are continuing to do what you please, through the 'free will' you are given for the trial purpose.</p><p></p><p>Eg; You don't keep failing cos of Examiner's Will. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can choose to obey him any second. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eg; You are starting to pass the exams, doesn't have any pre-plans with the Examiner. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eg; Examiner have set the questions, and will be rewarded according to the caliber of questions. </p><p></p><p></p><p>HE have set you what questions to come, when to come etc. (destiny) </p><p></p><p>You have the ability to write whatever you want. (Your free will)</p><p></p><p>We can't go and say we don't like this questions etc. He knows what questions are best for us. </p><p></p><p> It is His Exams and we're the servants who are gifted with the test (so we can pass and earn a higher status) without any benefit for Him in return.</p><p></p><p>*These are examples only that completely doesn't fit the Attributes of God Almighty and His Plans.</p><p></p><p>Once again sorry about the late reply. </p><p></p><p>TC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pizziesta, post: 8087565, member: 18310"] Force is the cause of an Action. It's like you are asking who made the force. There is an original force creating rest of actions. That original force is what people refer as 'God'. What's your view about the original force? From where did that come from? All these lame stories have come up because people are unaware of true concepts. Angels and demons, the book is a fiction that takes people away from the reality of real illuminati = Freemasons+Zionists. What the book says is no where near to what the real illuminati is. It's like you talking about magic, and I'm saying I have read Harry Potter. So that's what happened. =) Indeed, all these misconceptions are the productivity of illuminati tricks. See how hard we try to come to a common term regarding them. What i see that somewhere there is a point that makes the other person still stick to what he knows. I guess it is how we define GOD'S WILL. This world is a place of trial. We're beings with 'free will'. Remember this first. For a trial to happen there has to be options. Eg; Writing for an exam. The exam questions, and everything else in it, are according to Examiner's will. That doesn't mean you fail the test cos of HIS will, does it? What has happened is that HE have given options. Look at the smoking example. You don't smoke cos of His Will. His Will is to create an opportunity for you to choose either to smoke or not to smoke. Both options are under His Permission since this is a test. Just like the Examiner permits to fail or pass. It doesn't mean the Examiner wants someone to Fail. Even failing is happening under His permission as it is a criteria in a Test. So both fail and pass happens under the Will of Examiner. But noway either options are forced. Hope you understood the point I'm trying to convey. No. Eg; The questions and the exam are according to Examiner's will. You are failing or passing cos of your choices. You are continuing to do what you please, through the 'free will' you are given for the trial purpose. Eg; You don't keep failing cos of Examiner's Will. You can choose to obey him any second. Eg; You are starting to pass the exams, doesn't have any pre-plans with the Examiner. Eg; Examiner have set the questions, and will be rewarded according to the caliber of questions. HE have set you what questions to come, when to come etc. (destiny) You have the ability to write whatever you want. (Your free will) We can't go and say we don't like this questions etc. He knows what questions are best for us. It is His Exams and we're the servants who are gifted with the test (so we can pass and earn a higher status) without any benefit for Him in return. *These are examples only that completely doesn't fit the Attributes of God Almighty and His Plans. Once again sorry about the late reply. TC [/QUOTE]
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