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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pizziesta" data-source="post: 8151255" data-attributes="member: 18310">What i meant by Self possession power, is that HE IS THE POWER.Yes, we know nothing can come out of nothing - This world cannot happen from nothing but through a force. The water did not come from nothing but through power, shaping/switch of materials/through knowledge, in order to make it as water (Creation of water).(Even for a random chance is out of question since there has to be a force moving objects without intelligence.)So there is Force of Power, which resulted in Creating things.---------------------------------------------------------------------Whether that Force is intelligence or not, is through our experience. There are millions of signs for us to observe. How our body functions to the amazing world we observe through our senses, that keeps us under this dimension. You can see all these signs and yet disbelieve. But another will always ponder  about the intelligence being involved and the power that governs the world even to this very second. For you all these can be as a result of a random chance that took 4.5 billions years or something. But for that random chance also there has to be a power forcing objects to move. If it's a random chance, our eyes won't be in the face, just placed perfectly under eye brows, giving its protection. And tears to falls as a mean of clearing out harmful materials. More than that, we have a soul that feels love, hate, happiness, etc. "...if you were to seek a tunnel into the earth or a ladder into the skies and bring them a sign, (they still wouldn't be convinced.) If it were Allah’s will, He could gather them all into true guidance, so don’t be among those who are influenced by ignorance." (6:35)(Notes: They=Disbelievers / God's will now is the Test)Religion(s) teach that God Almighty does not enjoy people choosing evil, [and Hell is as a mean of summing up their bad deeds, giving them an opportunity for a high status once again within the creation, since they went against the Will of God Almighty and earned nothing but the disrespect of God Almighty and also among other creations (angels, jinns, etc) where he have to live his real life]. But it is to obey and enjoy blessings, which is recommended the best for them.But you are claiming HE enjoys. So indeed, this is something that is not in the religious teachings, making it a misconception, isn't it?.Likewise, when people are ignorant of real teachings but assumes whatever they want without learning and blames religious concepts, is when misconceptions or other misunderstanding forms occur, within them and those who hear them.- These devil worshipers are nothing compared to Illuminati.- Even i know many friends who follow these groups for fun, attraction and some for real purpose. And these groups of people have fallen into the trap of believing what iblees, the jinn (satan) wanted in the first place. so if we go back to original points of our discussion, there is a connection between these claimed religions and what other main religions teach.Even though you can have access to what also have, what matters is whether you reach the relevant materials. I will give you a structured reply of what i say, within few days. Then we can go further regarding this matter.It is since almost everyone are slaves of their system. Let's talk about this after what i post on them.Whatever said, you are deliberately not trying to understand the concept put in, by hiding behind Yes or No to win your claim. Yes or No can be said if you understand the whole thing that defines what meant by God's Will. You are being a non believer is not directly because of God Almighty's will. But through the opportunity he created for you, it is who you have chosen to be a disbeliever through your own choices. God Almighty's will includes you are given the freedom to take your own decisions and actions. Assumption: Everyone are equally capableSo It's like you are saying ICC is the cause of you bowling a wide ball. ICC have set you rules and regulations, where you are given the freedom to ball according to how you like. But they have also defined the rules that brings you success as well as misery. Success includes you bowling to the wicket.Everything happens to the will of ICC. Yet you bowl according to your will. Hope you understood the balance and the true concept here. God Almighty knows best.What meant is that it is God's Will in the sense He have allowed it to happen since the action is through your free. If He has any influences, then it won't be your free will. So the problem occurs what you mean by God's will. God's will doesn't mean to influence you with every decision and action you take. God's will includes the opportunity for you to take decisions as well as the results of those decisions to happen. If you take Option A, option A to happen. If you choose option B, Option B to happen. Hope you understood the concept now.</blockquote>

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