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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 8154991" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">We are again going in circles. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(1)What created the original force? Was it always there or not? Yes or No?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(2)If yes <--- Contradicts Nothing can come out of nothing argument.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(3)If No <--- A superior power must have created it(Who is GOD's father? argument)</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Yes, because its a subjective view. You cannot really say whose view is superior because seeing these signs is no proof for anything. You see something and you assume something. That's all to it.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Why not? We know if given enough time things will eventually come to a saturated optimum place.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">How can that be a proof of anything other than relating something real to an assumption? </span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I'm not sure what you mean here. Did I say that GOD enjoy something? I can't recall. Care to explain?</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Yet again, you assume that you are the one who knows real teachings and others are ignorant. What does that make you?</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I'm just gonna drop this illuminati thing. I explained my position clearly but seems like you don't talk about the point but rather are trying to educate me on Illuminati. I don't need that.</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">In other words everything that happens is not what GOD want,not GODs doing, but he just allows it to happen anyway. That is how you define the "GODs will".</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">True. I got what you meant now. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>

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