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<blockquote data-quote="Y2K" data-source="post: 10129930" data-attributes="member: 35049"><p>B'live me first I thought we are talking abt one true god bt later on some verses from Quran changed my mind, so please justify these statement which I was given above. I have no grudge on you or in Islam but I am against inhumanity</p><p></p><p>Brother I know I may not know everything (surely i have to study more read more abt Islam) what surprise me is I noticed there are some verses which I thought not relavent to be there in your Holy book so by reading it my heart says oh how hom such violance verse came to this holy book ? so We love Gandhi He is the Father of non-violance he may have see some good in Islam so I respect his view </p><p></p><p>Here what he said about Christianity </p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Gandhi_smiling_R.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p><em>"In my humble opinion, what passes as Christianity is a negation of the Sermon on the Mount ... I am speaking of the Christian belief, of Christianity as it is understood in the west." </em></p><p></p><p>Early in his life, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi had been reading the Bible to keep a promise he had made to a friend. He found the Old Testament extremely difficult going. He disliked the Book of Numbers. <strong>But the New Testament produced a different impression, especially the Sermon on the Mount which went straight to his heart.</strong> The verses about not resisting evil but offering the other cheek and giving the cloak to one who asked for one's coat delighted him beyond measure. They reminded him about something he had learned in his childhood about returning with gladness good for evil done. </p><p></p><p><em>"I did once seriously think of embracing the Christian faith," Gandhi told Millie Polak, the wife of one of his earliest disciples. "The gentle figure of Christ, so patient, so kind, so loving, so full of forgiveness that he taught his followers not to retailate when abused or struck, but to turn the other cheek, I thought it was a beautiful example of the perfect man..." </em>Gandhi </p><p></p><p>Gandhi could speak beautifully about the message and personality of Jesus. Talking about the Gospel passage of the rich young man, he said, "St. Mark has vividly described the scene. Jesus is in his solemn mood. He is earnest. He talks about eternity. He knows the world about him. He is himself the greatest economist of his time. He succeeded in sermonising time and space - He transcends them. It is to him at the best that one comes running, kneels down and asks, "Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said unto him, "One thing thou lackest. Go thy way, sell what thou hast and give it to the poor, and thou shall have treasure in heaven - come, take up the cross and follow me." Here you have an eternal rule of life stated in the noblest words the English language is capable of producing." Gandhi went on to say that he could quote even stronger passages from the Hindu scriptures and the lesson he wanted to draw was that if we could clean our houses, palaces and temples of the attributes of wealth and show in them the attributes of morality we could fight all hostile forces without military strength. Let us seek first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, he said, and the irrevocable promise is that everything will be added upon us. "These are real economics. May you and I treasure them and enforce them in our daily life." </p><p></p><p>Poverty, suffering, the Crosss, non-violence, morality - all these were part of the Kingdom of God. But for Gandhi what struck him most in the Sermon on the Mount was Christ's teaching on non-retaliation, or non-resistance to evil. <em>"Of all the things I have read what remained with me forever was that Jesus came almost to give a new law - not an eye for an eye but to receive two blows when only one was given, and to go two miles when they were asked to go one. I came to see that the Sermon on the Mount was the whole of Christianity for him who wanted to live a Christian life. It is that sermon that has endeared Jesus to me." </em></p><p></p><p><em>"<strong>Jesus occupies in my heart," </strong>said Gandhi, <strong>"the place of one of the greatest teachers who have had a considerable influence on my life.</strong> I shall say to the <strong>Hindus that your life will be incomplete unless you reverentially study the teachings of Jesus</strong>... Make this world the kingdom of God and his righteousness and everything will be added unto you. I tell you that if you will understand, appreciate, and act up to the spirit of this passage, you won't need to know what place Jesus or any other teacher occupies in your heart."</em></p><p></p><p><strong>Gandhi is probably the first person in history to lift the love ethic of Jesus </strong>above mere interaction between individuals to a powerful and effective social force on a large scale. The intellectual and moral satisfaction that I failed to gain from the utilitarianism of Bentham and Mill, the revolutionary methods of Marx and Lenin, the social contract theory of Hobbes, the 'back to nature' optimism of Rousseau, and the superman philosophy of Nietzsche, I found in the non-violent resistance philosophy of Gandhi. </p><p><strong>(Martin Luther King, Jr.)</strong> </p><p></p><p><img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Y2K, post: 10129930, member: 35049"] B'live me first I thought we are talking abt one true god bt later on some verses from Quran changed my mind, so please justify these statement which I was given above. I have no grudge on you or in Islam but I am against inhumanity Brother I know I may not know everything (surely i have to study more read more abt Islam) what surprise me is I noticed there are some verses which I thought not relavent to be there in your Holy book so by reading it my heart says oh how hom such violance verse came to this holy book ? so We love Gandhi He is the Father of non-violance he may have see some good in Islam so I respect his view Here what he said about Christianity [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Gandhi_smiling_R.jpg[/IMG] [I]"In my humble opinion, what passes as Christianity is a negation of the Sermon on the Mount ... I am speaking of the Christian belief, of Christianity as it is understood in the west." [/I] Early in his life, Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi had been reading the Bible to keep a promise he had made to a friend. He found the Old Testament extremely difficult going. He disliked the Book of Numbers. [B]But the New Testament produced a different impression, especially the Sermon on the Mount which went straight to his heart.[/B] The verses about not resisting evil but offering the other cheek and giving the cloak to one who asked for one's coat delighted him beyond measure. They reminded him about something he had learned in his childhood about returning with gladness good for evil done. [I]"I did once seriously think of embracing the Christian faith," Gandhi told Millie Polak, the wife of one of his earliest disciples. "The gentle figure of Christ, so patient, so kind, so loving, so full of forgiveness that he taught his followers not to retailate when abused or struck, but to turn the other cheek, I thought it was a beautiful example of the perfect man..." [/I]Gandhi Gandhi could speak beautifully about the message and personality of Jesus. Talking about the Gospel passage of the rich young man, he said, "St. Mark has vividly described the scene. Jesus is in his solemn mood. He is earnest. He talks about eternity. He knows the world about him. He is himself the greatest economist of his time. He succeeded in sermonising time and space - He transcends them. It is to him at the best that one comes running, kneels down and asks, "Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said unto him, "One thing thou lackest. Go thy way, sell what thou hast and give it to the poor, and thou shall have treasure in heaven - come, take up the cross and follow me." Here you have an eternal rule of life stated in the noblest words the English language is capable of producing." Gandhi went on to say that he could quote even stronger passages from the Hindu scriptures and the lesson he wanted to draw was that if we could clean our houses, palaces and temples of the attributes of wealth and show in them the attributes of morality we could fight all hostile forces without military strength. Let us seek first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, he said, and the irrevocable promise is that everything will be added upon us. "These are real economics. May you and I treasure them and enforce them in our daily life." Poverty, suffering, the Crosss, non-violence, morality - all these were part of the Kingdom of God. But for Gandhi what struck him most in the Sermon on the Mount was Christ's teaching on non-retaliation, or non-resistance to evil. [I]"Of all the things I have read what remained with me forever was that Jesus came almost to give a new law - not an eye for an eye but to receive two blows when only one was given, and to go two miles when they were asked to go one. I came to see that the Sermon on the Mount was the whole of Christianity for him who wanted to live a Christian life. It is that sermon that has endeared Jesus to me." [/I] [I]"[B]Jesus occupies in my heart," [/B]said Gandhi, [B]"the place of one of the greatest teachers who have had a considerable influence on my life.[/B] I shall say to the [B]Hindus that your life will be incomplete unless you reverentially study the teachings of Jesus[/B]... Make this world the kingdom of God and his righteousness and everything will be added unto you. I tell you that if you will understand, appreciate, and act up to the spirit of this passage, you won't need to know what place Jesus or any other teacher occupies in your heart."[/I] [B]Gandhi is probably the first person in history to lift the love ethic of Jesus [/B]above mere interaction between individuals to a powerful and effective social force on a large scale. The intellectual and moral satisfaction that I failed to gain from the utilitarianism of Bentham and Mill, the revolutionary methods of Marx and Lenin, the social contract theory of Hobbes, the 'back to nature' optimism of Rousseau, and the superman philosophy of Nietzsche, I found in the non-violent resistance philosophy of Gandhi. [B](Martin Luther King, Jr.)[/B] :) [/QUOTE]
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