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<blockquote data-quote="hrm" data-source="post: 30790250" data-attributes="member: 88125"><p>Saw this in FB. AAIB - India preliminary report findings.</p><p></p><p>Flight: AI-171 | Aircraft: Boeing 787-8 | Date: June 25, 2025 | Route: Ahmedabad (VAAH) → London Heathrow (EGLL)</p><p>Crash Site: ~1.2 km from VAAH Runway 23, post-V1 and rotation.</p><p><img src="https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/tb9/1/16/1f6e0.png" alt="🛠️" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> AAIB Preliminary Report Highlights</p><p>1. Primary Cause – Electrical Power Transfer Interruption (PTI) During Rotation</p><p>• During transition from ground to airborne electrical configuration, the aircraft experienced a cascading dual-engine FADEC (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) failure.</p><p>• Root cause: Uncommanded bus transfer failure due to arcing in the main power relay box (PRB-A), traced to water ingress during pre-flight GPU disconnection in heavy rain.</p><p>• This led to loss of electronic engine control at rotation, resulting in both GEnx engines rolling back to ground idle within 4–5 seconds.</p><p>2. Flight Data Record Timeline</p><p> • +0:11 sec: Nose gear lifts off.</p><p> • +0:13 sec: Sudden engine rollback begins. Thrust reduces from 92% N1 to <27% within 3 seconds.</p><p> • +0:16 sec: Master caution + ENG FAIL L/R warnings. FO calls, “Both engines dropping!”</p><p> • +0:20 sec: Autopilot and flight control reverts to Direct Mode. Pitch up attitude peaks at 18°.</p><p> • +0:25 sec: Aircraft stalls at 186 ft AGL.</p><p> • +0:30 sec: Full aerodynamic stall; nose drops rapidly.</p><p> • +0:38 sec: Ground impact at 54° nose-down attitude, 174 knots.</p><p>Contributing Factors</p><p> • Environmental Conditions:</p><p> • Torrential rain during pushback.</p><p> • Moisture intrusion into PRB-A connector (P/N: HLN8471) — a known corrosion-risk component.</p><p> • Latent Maintenance Issue:</p><p> • Power transfer relay unit showed signs of thermal damage in a previous MEL deferral 2 weeks prior.</p><p> • No replacement had been conducted; aircraft was cleared under repetitive deferral.</p><p> • Design Oversight:</p><p> • Boeing 787 has no physical engine control backup (i.e., no direct mechanical linkage in FADEC loss scenario).</p><p> • Loss of power supply to both EEC channels resulted in engine “freeze” at ground idle instead of flameout.</p><p> • Flight Crew Response:</p><p> • Attempted engine relight sequence not completed before stall onset.</p><p> • Emergency power selector not activated — possibly due to confusion from multiple ECAM warnings.</p><hr /><p>[USER=562115]@imhotep[/USER] what do you think? Is that plausible?</p><p>------ <span style="font-size: 10px">Post added on [DATETIME="UT"]1750221352[/DATETIME]</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hrm, post: 30790250, member: 88125"] Saw this in FB. AAIB - India preliminary report findings. Flight: AI-171 | Aircraft: Boeing 787-8 | Date: June 25, 2025 | Route: Ahmedabad (VAAH) → London Heathrow (EGLL) Crash Site: ~1.2 km from VAAH Runway 23, post-V1 and rotation. [IMG alt="🛠️"]https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/tb9/1/16/1f6e0.png[/IMG] AAIB Preliminary Report Highlights 1. Primary Cause – Electrical Power Transfer Interruption (PTI) During Rotation • During transition from ground to airborne electrical configuration, the aircraft experienced a cascading dual-engine FADEC (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) failure. • Root cause: Uncommanded bus transfer failure due to arcing in the main power relay box (PRB-A), traced to water ingress during pre-flight GPU disconnection in heavy rain. • This led to loss of electronic engine control at rotation, resulting in both GEnx engines rolling back to ground idle within 4–5 seconds. 2. Flight Data Record Timeline • +0:11 sec: Nose gear lifts off. • +0:13 sec: Sudden engine rollback begins. Thrust reduces from 92% N1 to <27% within 3 seconds. • +0:16 sec: Master caution + ENG FAIL L/R warnings. FO calls, “Both engines dropping!” • +0:20 sec: Autopilot and flight control reverts to Direct Mode. Pitch up attitude peaks at 18°. • +0:25 sec: Aircraft stalls at 186 ft AGL. • +0:30 sec: Full aerodynamic stall; nose drops rapidly. • +0:38 sec: Ground impact at 54° nose-down attitude, 174 knots. Contributing Factors • Environmental Conditions: • Torrential rain during pushback. • Moisture intrusion into PRB-A connector (P/N: HLN8471) — a known corrosion-risk component. • Latent Maintenance Issue: • Power transfer relay unit showed signs of thermal damage in a previous MEL deferral 2 weeks prior. • No replacement had been conducted; aircraft was cleared under repetitive deferral. • Design Oversight: • Boeing 787 has no physical engine control backup (i.e., no direct mechanical linkage in FADEC loss scenario). • Loss of power supply to both EEC channels resulted in engine “freeze” at ground idle instead of flameout. • Flight Crew Response: • Attempted engine relight sequence not completed before stall onset. • Emergency power selector not activated — possibly due to confusion from multiple ECAM warnings. [HR][/HR] [USER=562115]@imhotep[/USER] what do you think? Is that plausible? ------ [SIZE=2]Post added on [DATETIME="UT"]1750221352[/DATETIME][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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