"Whom say ye that I am?"

WHO DO YOU THINK JESUS IS?


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WHO DO YOU THINK JESUS IS?

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).

Peter answered, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16). "Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven" (Matthew 16:17).

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15). Jesus said that Peter gave the right answer: that He is the Christ (Greek for Messiah), the Son of the living God.

Many, particularly in our time, say other things. They give other answers to Jesus' question, "Whom say ye that I am?" We will consider,


(1) What Jesus' enemies said about Him.

(2) What Jesus said about Himself.

(3) Which of them will you believe?

I. First, what the enemies of Jesus say about Him.

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).

Jesus had many enemies while He lived on earth - and afterwards. Here are some of the things His enemies have said about Him.

1. Some have said He was insane - a madman.

"There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. And many of them said, He…is mad [he is insane]; why hear ye him?" (John 10:19-20).

"And when his friends heard of it [the great crowds gathering to hear Him], they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself [He has lost His mind]" (Mark 3:21).

This is what many atheists and agnostics say about Jesus to this day. They think that He was just a crazy man. They say the same thing those people said in John 10:20, "He…is mad; why hear ye him?"

2. Some said that He was demon possessed, or demonically influenced.

"The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil [a demon]" (John 7:20).

"Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou…hast a devil [a demon]?" (John 8:48).

"This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub [a name for Satan] the prince of the devils" (Matthew 12:24).

"But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils" (Matthew 9:34).

There are still those today who say that Jesus' power and miracles were actually witchcraft - and that He was under the power and influence of Satan. There are people in witchcraft and Satan worship who say that about Christ today.

3. Some said that He was a deceiver - that He deliberately tricked and deceived the people.

"The chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again"
(Matthew 27:62-63).

There are those today who say that Jesus was nothing but a deceiver, that He hoaxed people, and tricked them deliberately.

4. Some said He was a blasphemer.

"Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death" (Matthew 26:65-66).

There are those who still say that today.

5. Some simply did not want to say anything about Him. They did not want to make any decision about who or what He was.

"Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified… [Then Pilate] took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it [see to that yourselves]" (Matthew 27:22, 24).

Many people are like Pilate, the Roman governor. They believe Jesus was a "just person," but they do not want to be bothered with thinking too much about Him. They just want to wash their hands of the whole thing, and go on living their lives without much thought about Jesus. Most people in Los Angeles are like Pilate. They just don't want to think very much about Jesus at all.

Some say He was insane. Some say He was demon possessed and a magician, some say He was a deceiver, some say He was a blasphemer, some do not want to bother saying anything about Him. But Jesus asks you tonight,

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).

II. Second, what He said about Himself.

We have seen what the enemies of Jesus said about Him. Now let us see what Jesus said about Himself.

1. Please turn in your Bible to John 8:56,

"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by" (John 8:56-59).

They took stones and attempted to kill Him because Jesus applied the very name of God to Himself. Moses asked God what His name was, "And God said unto Moses, I am that I am" (Exodus 3:14). The consonants in Hebrew form "Yahweh," or the English "Jehovah." It means "I am." God's name "I am" means that He is self-existent and eternal. They knew Exodus 3:14, and tried to kill Jesus for saying that He was Jehovah, "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58). Jesus claimed to be God.

2. Please turn to John 10:29. Jesus said,

"My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God" (John 10:29-33).

Jesus said, "I and my Father are one" (v. 30). This shows the unity of essence between the First and Second Persons of the Trinity. They understood very clearly what Jesus meant, as we see in verse thirty-three, "thou, being a man, makest thyself God." There was no doubt in their minds that He claimed to be God. Ecolampadius remarks, "He does not say we are one in the masculine gender - that is one person; but one in the neuter gender - that is one in nature, power, and majesty." The Father and the Son are of one essence, or "substance," as the Athanasian Creed puts it. "Augustine remarks that this text alone (John 10:30) overthrows both the doctrine of the Sabellians [similar to the Muslims] and the Arians [similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses]. It silences the Sabellians, who say there is only one Person in the Godhead, by speaking of two distinct Persons ['I and my Father']. It silences the Arians, who say the Son is inferior to the Father, by saying that Father and Son are 'one'" (J. C. Ryle, Expository Thoughts on John, Banner of Truth reprint of 1869 edition, volume 2, p. 240).

3. Now turn to John 14:7,

"If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me…" (John 14:7-11).

Jesus said, "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father" (v. 9). J. C. Ryle comments, "There is so close and intimate a union between the persons in the Trinity, that he who sees the Son sees the Father. And yet we must carefully beware that we do not, like some heretics, 'confound the persons.' The Father is not the Son, and the Son is not the Father" (Ryle, op. cit., volume 3, p. 72). When Jesus said, "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father," He was essentially telling us, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" (John 1:18). Jesus is called "the express image of his person" (Hebrews 1:3). The unity of Jesus and the Father, as the First and Second Persons of the Trinity, is seen in John 14:7-11.

4. Now turn to John 5:17,

"But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

Josh McDowell points out "that the Jews did not refer to God as 'my Father.' If they did, they would qualify the statement with 'in heaven.' However, this Jesus did not do. He made a claim that the Jews could not misinterpret when He called God 'My Father.' His claim was to a unique relationship with God as His Father. Just as a human father's son must be fully human, God's Son must be fully God" (Josh McDowell, The New Evidence That Demands a Verdict, Thomas Nelson, 1999, p. 142). They fully understood this. They sought to kill Him because He made "himself equal with God" (verse 18). J. C. Ryle points out that "One thing is very clear: whatever Socinians [Jehovah's Witnesses] may say, our Lord distinctly laid claim to divinity, and the Jews distinctly understood Him to mean that He was God as well as man" (Ryle, op. cit., page 310). Jesus gave a further comment on His relationship with the Father when He said, in verse 26, "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself" (John 5:26). God the Father and God the Son have the same life, or essence. John 1:4 says, "In him was life." Jesus claimed equality with the Father.

5. Finally, turn to Matthew 26:62,

"And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death. Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and others smote him with the palms of their hands, Saying, Prophesy unto us, thou Christ, Who is he that smote thee?" (Matthew 26:62-68).

Jesus said that He would be seated next to God, "on the right hand of power." For this, they had Him crucified.

These, then, are some of the things Jesus said about Himself. "Before Abraham was, I am"; "I and my Father are one"; "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father"; "making himself equal with God"; "Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power." These are things Christ said about Himself. Now He asks you,

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).

III. Third, which of them will you believe?
Will you believe that He was a demon-possessed madman or a deceiving hoaxster? Or will you believe that He is the Son of God, the Second Person of the Trinity?

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).

The proof that Jesus offered of His deity was His resurrection from the dead. Turn to Matthew 20:18,

"Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again" (Matthew 20:18-19).

The Apostle Paul said that Christ is

"declared to be the Son of God with power…by the resurrection from the dead" (Romans 1:4).

When Thomas was confronted by the resurrected Christ, he fell at Jesus' feet and cried out,

"My Lord and my God" (John 20:28).

Jesus asks you tonight,

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).

If you say that He is a lunatick or a deceiver, what hope do you have? If Jesus is not the Saviour, there is no hope in life - only death awaits you - and an endless eternity of nothingness. But if Jesus was right, and He is God the Son, then you should come to Him, and believe on Him, and be washed from your sins by His Blood. Will you reject Him - and live and die without hope? Or will you trust Him and be saved?

"Whom say ye that I am?" (Matthew 16:15).
 
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IF you know the truth ....... you will get angry :yes: so lets not go no further no wonder why for Muslims Jesus is just a messenger. :yes:

No enough evidence from your side to prove your claims from your own scripture.you don't want to hear the truth too.
 

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    Brother I can give you thousand of websites about "Truth about Islam" , History of Islam, Jihab, Why Moon is so special to Islam, Your Maddhi = Christian Anti-Christ, List of Quran Errors, Contradiction, Proof that Qurun is from Satan, Who really gave the quran to Mohomed ...list go on

    but for time being your stright answer is more than enough

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    No enough evidence from your side to prove your claims from your own scripture.you don't want to hear the truth too.

    What truth? Quran is a falsified book which was written over and over again several times. Now it is a fact. there is scientific evidence to prove content of quran was changed several times in the oldest versions.


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    What truth? Quran is a falsified book which was written over and over again several times. Now it is a fact. there is scientific evidence to prove content of quran was changed several times in the oldest versions.


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    For them 666 is the holy number bt in the bible warns us about 666, but still we can not clear figure out what the hell is 666 means

    but Bible clear mention about one world religion Anti-Christ force other people to surrender to his satanist God :shocked:
     
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    For them 666 is the holy number bt in the bible warns us about 666, but still we can not clear figure out what the hell is 666 means

    but Bible clear mention about one world religion Anti-Christ force other people to surrender to his satanist God :shocked:

    Surprising to me..Who is the hell told you this. I heard first time this 666. can u give me a proof from our scriptures this 666 is holy number.

    who is following Satanic God? Hello Our Quran also mention about you guys Started worshipping a man and a prohet Jesus by manipulating the Torah(current name bible)

    How dare you can call us our God is Satanic despite your Scriptures has been manipulated & fabricated by your Scholars (humans ) for your convenient..this is your Holy & true religion..Dream !!
     

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    Surprising to me..Who is the hell told you this. I heard first time this 666. can u give me a proof from our scriptures this 666 is holy number.

    who is following Satanic God? Hello Our Quran also mention about you guys Started worshipping a man and a prohet Jesus by manipulating the Torah(current name bible)

    How dare you can call us our God is Satanic despite your Scriptures has been manipulated & fabricated by your Scholars (humans ) for your convenient..this is your Holy & true religion..Dream !!

    please answer this simple question.

    What is the supernatural power which commands to kill ?
     

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    Surprising to me..Who is the hell told you this. I heard first time this 666. can u give me a proof from our scriptures this 666 is holy number.

    who is following Satanic God? Hello Our Quran also mention about you guys Started worshipping a man and a prohet Jesus by manipulating the Torah(current name bible)

    How dare you can call us our God is Satanic despite your Scriptures has been manipulated & fabricated by your Scholars (humans ) for your convenient..this is your Holy & true religion..Dream !!

    mchan How many verses in Quran ?

    The Bible rebuke such worship as sinful idol worship.

    2 Kings 21:3
    He rebuilt the high places his father Hezekiah had destroyed; he also erected altars to Baal and made an Asherah pole, as Ahab king of Israel had done. He bowed down to all the starry hosts and worshiped them.

    A symbol of the moon is the symbol of Islam. Its on top of every prayer tower, on top of every Mosque, and used as a symbol of very Islamic nation.


    Acts 19:35
    The city clerk quieted the crowd and said: “Men of Ephesus, doesn’t all the world know that the city of Ephesus is the guardian of the temple of the great Artemis and of her image, which fell from heaven?

    Muslim worship is very similar to the pagan worship of the stone in Ephesus. Islam also have element of worship, adoration and veneration of goddesses. The Muslims believed Allah, the moon-god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called «the daughters of Allah». Allah’s three daughters, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah and were also worshiped at the Kabah in Mecca. The daughters of Allah, along with Allah’s wife the sun goddess, and Allah were viewed as «high» gods.

    "He changeth the times and the seasons,
    He removeth kings, and setteth up kings,
    He giveth wisdom unto the wise
    and knowledge to them
    that know understanding"
     

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    please answer this simple question.

    What is the supernatural power which commands to kill ?

    Mchan Allah ne kiyanne ekai ayala maranne (but Allah specially mala those who b'live in Christ , Don't knw why mchan) Me allah (the All mighty ) ta bari una ne eka para Bible ekak diganna 2nd Revised version akaklu Quran eka (ekata holy kiyanna ba maranna kiyana nisa)
     

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    ANTICHRIST IN ISLAM

    2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


    Is Mohammed the antichrist? The verses above do not seem to suggest an individual. Is Islam antichrist? Since the most important fundamental in Islam is "shirk" - that God has no Son - it would seem undeniable.

    1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.


    Additional verses that support this:


    1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

    1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.

    1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship [is] with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

    2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
    And this search for Son of God.

    And Islam?
    "O you People of the Book, overstep not bounds in your religion, and of God speak only the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, is only an apostle of God, and his Word which he conveyed unto Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from him. Believe therefore in God and his apostles, and say not Three. It will be better for you. God is only one God. Far be it from his glory that he should have a son."


    Here is a verse from the Koran: "The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! Surah 9.30"


    Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet, but they must necessarily believe their prophet to be a liar because Jesus said:

    John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said,I am the Son of God?

    John 10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.

    John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father [is] in me, and I in him.


    John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

    John 14:11 Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

    Those that deny the Son do not have the Father:


    John 5:23 That all [men] should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

    John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

    1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

    John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.


    John 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.


    Who judges?


    John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
     
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    mchan How many verses in Quran ?

    The Bible rebuke such worship as sinful idol worship.

    2 Kings 21:3
    He rebuilt the high places his father Hezekiah had destroyed; he also erected altars to Baal and made an Asherah pole, as Ahab king of Israel had done. He bowed down to all the starry hosts and worshiped them.

    A symbol of the moon is the symbol of Islam. Its on top of every prayer tower, on top of every Mosque, and used as a symbol of very Islamic nation.


    Acts 19:35
    The city clerk quieted the crowd and said: “Men of Ephesus, doesn’t all the world know that the city of Ephesus is the guardian of the temple of the great Artemis and of her image, which fell from heaven?

    Muslim worship is very similar to the pagan worship of the stone in Ephesus. Islam also have element of worship, adoration and veneration of goddesses. The Muslims believed Allah, the moon-god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called «the daughters of Allah». Allah’s three daughters, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah and were also worshiped at the Kabah in Mecca. The daughters of Allah, along with Allah’s wife the sun goddess, and Allah were viewed as «high» gods.

    "He changeth the times and the seasons,
    He removeth kings, and setteth up kings,
    He giveth wisdom unto the wise
    and knowledge to them
    that know understanding"


    i'm Sorry buddy, you are just bringing from some Christian website that falsely Quote the quranic versus.what happen here is you Just copy & paste it without checking its authentication.wait a moment and see below my answer, you will understand, you & your Christian missioners lies. only Shatans can be big liars


    the Christians often quote one Quranic passage, and then think they have proven their point, let us quote this passage:

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    YUSUFALI: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

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    YUSUFALI: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?


    u Christians love to quote these two verses and then stop, the question we must ask such Christians is why do they stop there? Is your holy spirit too afraid to quote the rest of the passages? Since Christians claim to be inspired by the holy spirit then what is the holy spirit hiding here? Let us now quote the rest of the passages:

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    YUSUFALI: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

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    YUSUFALI: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

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    YUSUFALI: These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

    So had the Christians care to carry on, they would see that Allah exposes them making such a lie! Allah tells them that they the pagans have invented these false idols, and that it is something corrupt.

    We must ask why do Christians not quote the rest? In fact I will not hold the Christians responsible for such deceit, but I will hold the holy spirit responsible. Christians claim the holy spirit inspires them, if that is true then the holy spirit is inspiring them to be untruthful, and to be distorters of truth, and to try and make up a lie. And such actions cannot be coming from a holy being, rather such action is inspired by someone called Iblis, who is shaytan, because only shaytan inspires people to make a lie against Allah and his Noble Quran.




     
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    At the same time, the most important fundamental of Islam, held by 1/4 of mankind today, requires denying that Jesus is the Son of God.


    Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!


    Indeed the greatest, and only unpardonable, sin in Islam (shirk) is committed if a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God. A religion whose very basis absolutely requires denial that Jesus even died on the cross:

    Futher : in Islam according to the word of Allah only unpardonable sin is (Shirk) which a Muslim confesses that Jesus is Son of God nothing else they even accept killing in the name of Allah what a religion of peace is this ???


    Surah 4.157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them ... for of a surety they killed him not:-

    Is it so clear that Allah doesn't like to B'live in Jesus Christ

    For Christians Jesus is the savior so you have to believe (if you understand his great sacrifice you will understand it) that Jesus came to earth to pay the price and he died on the cross and he rose from the dead after 3 days