Killing in Christianity, Jesus approved of killing

[I love Srilanka]

There are many false allegation by Christians and non muslims that, Islam is intolerant and our prophet mohammed is a war monger/girls desire. now will see what Christianity teach about killing.

I dont want to insult any one here, but what is exactly in the bible, I'm Quoting as most of the Christians them self don't know what is there in their own scriptures. also, my purpose is to bring up this as Y2K challenged me to bring from new testament.



Matthew 15:4

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death

Romans 1:20-32 (from the New Testament)

32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them


Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail. They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them."


Y2K, above versus are not cruel??? then why you keep on insulting Islam without context. also I have more about Pornography in your holy fabricated bible, I will bring up soon as you challenged me...

 

[Rovin]

FO

 

[Odel]

DO NOT CRITISIZE! ITS WRONG!

DID NOT PROPHET TOLD U!

 

[farmin]

DO NOT CRITISIZE! ITS WRONG!

DID NOT PROPHET TOLD U!

1st of read this too bro.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10123135&postcount=34
I love Srilanka is giving him a reply only.

 

[MS DOS]

There are many false allegation by Christians and non muslims that, Islam is intolerant and our prophet mohammed is a war monger/girls desire. now will see what Christianity teach about killing.

I dont want to insult any one here, but what is exactly in the bible, I'm Quoting as most of the Christians them self don't know what is there in their own scriptures. also, my purpose is to bring up this as Y2K challenged me to bring from new testament.



Matthew 15:4

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death

Romans 1:20-32 (from the New Testament)

32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them


Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail. They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them."


Y2K, above versus are not cruel??? then why you keep on insulting Islam without context. also I have more about Pornography in your holy fabricated bible, I will bring up soon as you challenged me...

Well said man

 

[ela_eluwa120]

තමන්ගෙ ඇහෙ පොල් පරාලෙ තියාගෙන අනෙකාග ඇහේ පොල් කෙන්ද හොයනවා කියන්නෙ මේවට තමයි

 

[I love Srilanka]

1st of read this too bro.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10123135&postcount=34
I love Srilanka is giving him a reply only.

despite having given the replies for their allegation against islam, they keep on quoting the same versus from Quran as they have no other option to attack Islam..As you said I don't want to Insult any religion here, that is not what I studied from my religion.i want to reply & show the Christians friends what is in their scriptures. also y2k challenged me to bring at least 1versus from NT.if i don't bring it up now, i will b called liar, and bible will be portrayed as pure & holy.

 

[kosandpol]

There are many false allegation by Christians and non muslims that, Islam is intolerant and our prophet mohammed is a war monger/girls desire.

So your method of disproving this is to show that killing is approved in other religions ?
FAIL!

 

[I love Srilanka]

So your method of disproving this is to show that killing is approved in other religions ?
FAIL!

I said here false allegation, have you ever read my purpose of post before u comment, this is what is happening to you guys...all out of context..Grow up guys...

 

[njsa]

තමන්ගෙ ඇහෙ පොල් පරාලෙ තියාගෙන අනෙකාග ඇහේ පොල් කෙන්ද හොයනවා කියන්නෙ මේවට තමයි

yes.thats y i love srilanka wanted to point out that to y2k.and acknowledge him to see his පොල් පරාලෙ before talk about the others පොල් කෙන්ද.!!!!!!!!!!

 

[kosandpol]

I said here false allegation, have you ever read my purpose of post before u comment, this is what is happening to you guys...all out of context..Grow up guys...

my post is very much in context. Your post havent proven the said allegations to be false. Only YOU are saying that the allegations are false. There's nothing in your post to back up that claim.
Then you go and quote lines from the bible on how that religion approves killing. How can that in anyway, disprove the earlier said allegations ?
You're the one thats totally out of context here.

 

[I love Srilanka]

my post is very much in context. Your post havent proven the said allegations to be false. Only YOU are saying that the allegations are false. There's nothing in your post to back up that claim.
Then you go and quote lines from the bible on how that religion approves killing. How can that in anyway, disprove the earlier said allegations ?
You're the one thats totally out of context here.

are you new to this religious forum, brother it has been refuted many time, frankly tired of doing so..if you have some allegation against islam you can bring it up again one by one here, we will deal with that...same thing I mentioned to Y2K....we will deal freshly again..Im not going to run away ok...All the best.

 

[kosandpol]

are you new to this religious forum, brother it has been refuted many time, frankly tired of doing so..if you have some allegation against islam you can bring it up again one by one here, we will deal with that...same thing I mentioned to Y2K....we will deal freshly again..Im not going to run away ok...All the best.

so the sole purpose of this thread was not to refute any allegations that had been made earlier but to to make the ridiculous claim of "hey, religion X has that god approving killing so automatically Islam doesnt"

 

[Prothean]

There are many false allegation by Christians and non muslims that, Islam is intolerant and our prophet mohammed is a war monger/girls desire. now will see what Christianity teaches about killing.

I dont want to insult any one here, but what is exactly in the bible, I'm Quoting as most of the Christians them self don't know what is there in their own scriptures. also, my purpose is to bring up this as Y2K challenged me to bring from new testament.



Matthew 15:4

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death

Romans 1:20-32 (from the New Testament)

32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them


Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail. They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them."


Y2K, above versus are not cruel??? then why you keep on insulting Islam without context. also I have more about Pornography in your holy fabricated bible, I will bring up soon as you challenged me...

The first thing you should notice. the Bible was not originally written by Jesus.
it has been written by many people including Mark,Matthew,Luke ,John. there might be even more. so who authorized them to do such a thing? so you should have some sense to understand the pure Christianity. yeah that's the main conspurcation which I see in Christianity.
and I am a Christian.

 

[Y2K]

There are many false allegation by Christians and non muslims that, Islam is intolerant and our prophet mohammed is a war monger/girls desire. now will see what Christianity teach about killing.

I dont want to insult any one here, but what is exactly in the bible, I'm Quoting as most of the Christians them self don't know what is there in their own scriptures. also, my purpose is to bring up this as Y2K challenged me to bring from new testament.



Matthew 15:4

For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death

Sorry mama me thread eka dan thmai dakke

mchan me mona version Bible ekakda? we only b'live in King James version so here what it says

Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

This verse dosn't not ask any person to kill ok it is just nother way of saying Roman6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.




Romans 1:20-32 (from the New Testament)

32. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them


Here is the full verse from KJV

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

I feel so sad abt you brother you argument can not say even an argument because there is no argument here

here no one ask to kill anybody here it clear says sinners deserve death (Such asTerriorist, Satanist guys etc.)

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail. They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them."


Y2K, above versus are not cruel???
Not at all no one ask you to kill like in Quran ordered (Most holy, Uncurrupted text) then why you keep on insulting Islam without context. (I have pointed out my context bt in what context you ask some one to killed ? )[/COLOR]also I have more about Pornography in your holy fabricated bible, I will bring up soon as you challenged me...

ok dear but bring those from the New Testament that is the only document is more reliable than any other specailly after Jesus Christ was born

 

[Y2K]

Leviticus 20:27 This is from Old testiment son try another one pls

 

[Y2K]

මේ පරන ගිවිසුම මම ඕබට කිව්වෙ පුලුවන් නම් නව ගිවිසුමෙන් පෙන්වන්න කියලා, දැන් තව අන්තවාදින් පිරිසක් හන්න පුලුවන් ඇයි පරන ගිවිසුමට මක් වෙලාද කියලා එකට මුකුත් වෙලා නැ එක වැරදිහට තෙරුම් ගත්ත නිසා සමහර මිනිස්සු තමන්ගෙම නිර්වචන අරගෙන දෙවියන්ගෙ නම විකාති කරා එ නිසා ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ පැමිනිම තමයි ගොඩාක් වනින්නෙ මම කියන්නෙ නැ පරන ගිවිසුම වැරදිම කියලා නමුත් සමහර නිතිරිනි වෙනස් වෙනවා නෙ කාලේන් කාලෙට මම එ ගැන පස්සෙ සදහන් කරන්නම්


ඉතින් ගොඩාක් අය හිතන්න ඇති ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව අර කට්ටියක බොරුවට ඇන ගැහුවා වගේ I love sri lanka ඇන ගහන්න හදලා වරද කාරෙයෙක් කියලා ඕප්පු උනා කියලා. නමුත් මම පෙන්වලා දුන්නා එය එසෙ නොවන බව තව ටිකක් යන කොට එ උතුම් වු බුදුන්ගෙ වචනත් වෙනස් කාරාවි මේ මගෙ සහොදරයෝ


මෙ යාලුවා බොහොම ආමාරුවෙන් වාකය 3 ක් හොයාගෙන එකෙන් 2ක් පමනයි ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ කාලයෙ ලියවෙලා තියෙන්නෙ (මෙවා ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ වචන නොවන බව මතක තබා ගන්න) මෙහෙම යන කොට මෙයාලා දම්ම පදයේ තියෙන අර කල කම් පස්සෙන එනවා කියන එකටත් කියයි එ වචන නරකයි කියලා බුදුහාමුදුරුවෙ වැරදි කරන අයට සාප කරනවා කියාවි. අනෙ මන්ද බලන්න මේ සහොදරයිනව කොච්චර දුරට අල්ලා අන්ද කරලාද කියල?

අවසන වශයෙන මම මේ පදය ඕබ වෙත ගෙන එමින් අවසන් කරන්නම්

King James Bible

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. - Galatians 6:7

 

[Y2K]

The first thing you should notice. the Bible was not originally written by Jesus.
it has been written by many people including Mark,Matthew,Luke ,John. there might be even more. so who authorized them to do such a thing? so you should have some sense to understand the pure Christianity. yeah that's the main conspurcation which I see in Christianity.
and I am a Christian.

Hey THey are his truthfull followers they are the one who knew Jesus very well ok if you can not rely on them i would like to say You take all the verse of Jesus then you will find Christianity

When I was studing Buddhsim also I follow this rule b'live me there is no verse of Violance nor in Buddism or in Christianity

There are lot of Christians are there who never unserstand the core concept of Christianity just like in Buddhist very few of them know the Ultimate meaning or Ultimate meaning of their great teachings

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." - John 8:32

May God bless you

 

[Y2K]

1st of read this too bro.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10123135&postcount=34 Ok you are talking about these allegations ne? ok go ahead all the best


I love Srilanka is giving him a reply only.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, most of the verses of violence in the Quran are open-ended, meaning that the historical context is not embedded within the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence - and Muhammad's own martial legacy - has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.

Ok Mr.Al Baik Try hard to Justify these statements (Unfortunately you can not say these verses are changed by human because you people say Quran is not currupted and it is strieght from Allah (GOD)

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse.

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.


Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may
remember."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam. Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars

Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."
The "striving" spoken of here is Jihad.


Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

"People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

ඉතින් සහොදරයිනි මේක වෛරයක් නෙමෙයි නපුර හදුනාගෙන හැකිතරම් එයට හසු නොවි සිටින්න කෙනෙකුට මේ කුරානයෙ කුරානය කියලා නොදැන කියවලා යමක් කියන්න කිව්වොත් ඕහු කුමක් කියයිද? ආගමික දෙයක මොනම අවස්තාවකදි උනත් අන්න්ය ආගමෙ අය මරන්න කියන්නෙ මොන දෙවියාද? මෙකට උත්තර නැතිව එ අය කියන්නේ මේ යුද්ද කරන මොහොතක ආල්ලා කියපු දෙවල් කියලා? එහෙම වෙන්නෙ කොහොමද? අල්ලා මොහොමඩ්ට මේ වාකය කියන කොට ඉස්ලාම් ආගමක් ත්බුනෙද? අරි එක තැනක ආල්ලාට මල පැනලා කෙන්ති ගියා කියමු නමුත් හැම තැනම මේ වෛරය වපුරන්නෙ හැම තිස්සෙම මලෙන් කියලා කියන්නද? ඉතින් මේවා මේ අයට කියලා වැඩක් නැ මේ ආගමට බැදුන කෙනෙකුට අයෙත් හරි මර්ගයට එන්න නම් සාතන් ඉඩ දෙන්න්නෙ නැමෙක ලොකයෙ ලොකුම මුලාවයි මෙය ලොකයෙ ලොකුම මුසාවයි. එක නිසා මේ ගැන කතා නොකර අපි බුදුහාමුදුරුවන් කියනවා වග් හිකිතාක් කුසල් කරමින් අකුසල් වලින් ඇත්වෙලා ඉමු

මම කලින් මෙහෙම විවේචනවලට අවේ නැ නමුත් මෙහෙ වෙන දෙවල් දැකලා ඇස් කන් වහගෙන ඉන්න්ම බැරි වුනා නමුත් ඕබගෙ සිත රිදිමක් උනාන්ම් සමාවන්න මිත්‍රයා

එ එක්කම අපි හරියට දැන්නෙ නැති මේ වාක්ය කියපු අවස්තාවන් අපට තෙරුම් කරලා දෙන්න

 

[Al Baik]

මේ පරන ගිවිසුම මම ඕබට කිව්වෙ පුලුවන් නම් නව ගිවිසුමෙන් පෙන්වන්න කියලා, දැන් තව අන්තවාදින් පිරිසක් හන්න පුලුවන් ඇයි පරන ගිවිසුමට මක් වෙලාද කියලා එකට මුකුත් වෙලා නැ එක වැරදිහට තෙරුම් ගත්ත නිසා සමහර මිනිස්සු තමන්ගෙම නිර්වචන අරගෙන දෙවියන්ගෙ නම විකාති කරා එ නිසා ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ පැමිනිම තමයි ගොඩාක් වනින්නෙ මම කියන්නෙ නැ පරන ගිවිසුම වැරදිම කියලා නමුත් සමහර නිතිරිනි වෙනස් වෙනවා නෙ කාලේන් කාලෙට මම එ ගැන පස්සෙ සදහන් කරන්නම්


ඉතින් ගොඩාක් අය හිතන්න ඇති ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව අර කට්ටියක බොරුවට ඇන ගැහුවා වගේ I love sri lanka ඇන ගහන්න හදලා වරද කාරෙයෙක් කියලා ඕප්පු උනා කියලා. නමුත් මම පෙන්වලා දුන්නා එය එසෙ නොවන බව තව ටිකක් යන කොට එ උතුම් වු බුදුන්ගෙ වචනත් වෙනස් කාරාවි මේ මගෙ සහොදරයෝ


මෙ යාලුවා බොහොම ආමාරුවෙන් වාකය 3 ක් හොයාගෙන එකෙන් 2ක් පමනයි ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ කාලයෙ ලියවෙලා තියෙන්නෙ (මෙවා ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ වචන නොවන බව මතක තබා ගන්න) මෙහෙම යන කොට මෙයාලා දම්ම පදයේ තියෙන අර කල කම් පස්සෙන එනවා කියන එකටත් කියයි එ වචන නරකයි කියලා බුදුහාමුදුරුවෙ වැරදි කරන අයට සාප කරනවා කියාවි. අනෙ මන්ද බලන්න මේ සහොදරයිනව කොච්චර දුරට අල්ලා අන්ද කරලාද කියල?

අවසන වශයෙන මම මේ පදය ඕබ වෙත ගෙන එමින් අවසන් කරන්නම්

King James Bible

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. - Galatians 6:7

හෙලෝ මේ Y2K සහොදරයා.. බුද්ධයන්ගෙන් උදව් අවශ්‍යනම් කෙලින්ම කියන්න.. "මචන්ලා..
වරෙල්ලා... අවිත් මට මෙතන මුස්ලිම් මුන්ට උත්තරදෙන්න මොනව කරල හරි උදවු කරපල්ලා... ඉස්ලාම් වලට මඩක් ගහල.. අයිලව්ශ්‍රීලංකා කියන එකාව නොන්ඩියදාල.. මෙතනින් එහාට ප්‍රශ්න අහන්න බැරිවෙන්න, ත්‍රෙඩ් එකේ දිගට හරහට බැහපල්ලා කියල...

ඔයා මෙතන බුද්ධයන්ව ත්‍රෙඩ් එකට ඇද ගන්න සෑහෙන්න උත්සාහයක් ගන්න බවක් නම් කවුරු නැහැ කිව්වත් වැඩක් නැහැ.. හොඳට තේරෙනවා..