Army camp trainings for University Freshers

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    Inter University Students Federation (IUSF) today said that they are planning to file a petition at the Supreme Courts this week against making the leadership training program compulsory for new University entrants by the Higher Education Ministry.

    IUSF Convener Sanjeewa Bandara told Daily Mirror Online that the Higher Education Ministry has no authority to make the leadership training program compulsory for undergraduates. “We would not object to this measure if it benefited the students. But these campaigns are held residentially in military camps for three weeks and we do not believe that it would have a positive effect on the participating students,” Bandara said.

    Speaking further he stated that they will also be organizing more protests countrywide in objection to the leadership camps that are scheduled to be held in military camps. However, the leadership training program for the first batch of new university entrants is scheduled to commence on May 23. (Lakna Paranamanna)
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    what do you think about this guys?

    i think making this compulsory is a bullshit...

    give your opinion
     

    dracoz

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    The Ministry of Higher Education has decided to make compulsory for all university entrants a 3-week training in army camps (supposedly because they are the only places that can accommodate all the entrants) and then give them 3 months of training in English and Information Technology (IT) at District level.

    While the intentions may be laudable, I wish to argue that the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. I hope Vice Chancellors and others in academic leadership will support me. I list the reasons for my opposition below.

    This measure will delay entrance to universities, causing both entrants and their parents much anxiety.
    Most if not all universities have orientation programs at which English, IT and other soft skills are taught. It is much better for students to be taught in their future academic environments rather than at district level, because a university environment is an academic one that creates a sense of seriousness of purpose.
    It must be remembered that a previous program of this nature, i.e. the GELT program was not continued, presumably because it was a failure. What guarantee do the universities have that we will not have to repeat English and IT classes once students come to the universities – causing further delay in graduation?
    In the same context, individual universities will take an active interest and responsibility in teaching English and IT, because the teaching of further courses will be made more difficult if their own students do not have these skills. It is not clear who feels responsible for the newly proposed English and IT program, but there is NO naturally structured responsibility that they will have; the trainers will not see the students after the training. If the ministry wants to improve English and IT among students, they should strengthen existing orientation programs within universities – NOT start new and untested ventures.
    While I have the greatest of respect for the army for their recent achievements, an army camp is not the place that the majority of potential entrants would like to go to. Many parents would be very apprehensive about sending girls especially to such camps. Furthermore, while I am sure there are many Tamil entrants and parents who would be thankful to the army for delivering them from the LTTE, there would be many others who would be apprehensive about anything to do with the army – these are social realities that we have to contend with and mere assurances of safety within these camps would not suffice. In fact Muslim girls may even be prohibited by their religion from attending such residential camps. I myself may not mind a son undergoing such training but would be reluctant for a daughter to do so.
    As a Senior Professor with 30 years of service, I consider student diversity to be one of the most significant ingredients in the process of producing good graduates. I do NOT wish to see parents of Tamil or female entrants opting to send their children to private universities or to settle for non-university careers in accountancy, marketing or banking purely because of the obstacle created by this training in army camps. The entire university community will be impoverished thereby. We must make sure that decisions we take do not discourage or cause discomfort to ANY potential entrant.
    If this training is made compulsory, it is very likely that some parent or entrant will file a fundamental rights case against it because this requirement was not divulged at the point that students were applying for entry. If nothing else, such a lawsuit will delay the entire academic calendar, and once again ALL students will be the losers.
    In the above context, I call upon the relevant decision makers to postpone any training of this nature until much wider consensus is sought. My own strong view is that existing orientation programs should be strengthened. If at all, the proposed training for this year should be conducted on a purely experimental and voluntary basis.

    Professor Priyan Dias
    Senior Professor of Civil Engineering
    University of Moratuwa
    2 May 2011
     

    king_pandukabaya

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    This is a good thing. I think that the government should give them not only leadership training but also some basic army training. We have to discipline those students and teach them how to work under pressure, how to maintain the mental and physical fitness and how to push your mind and body to limit without cracking down. This program is the best decision taken by the ministry of higher education for decades.
     

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    People at Ministry of Higher Education gone mad. :mad: My Girl has been selected for Uni. and now she is crying because of this shit :( Err .. How can a girl stay at Army camps ?
     

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    This is a good thing. I think that the government should give them not only leadership training but also some basic army training. We have to discipline those students and teach them how to work under pressure, how to maintain the mental and physical fitness and how to push your mind and body to limit without cracking down. This program is the best decision taken by the ministry of higher education for decades.

    hello bro.

    well. wish u ever have experienced a university life. university life is all about these things. A person who spends his part of life in uni. will learn what a leadership, how to work under pressure, how to make his life flow like a river. thats the university life. not just studies. no army training required brother. army training is for the person who engage in ARMY and uni. life is for the person who involve in university. get it. :)

    u know what army training is ? :lol::no:

    i doubt this decision to give leadership training to uni. freshers. they'll learn it by themselves in the university.
     

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    hello bro.

    well. wish u ever have experienced a university life. university life is all about these things. A person who spends his part of life in uni. will learn what a leadership, how to work under pressure, how to make his life flow like a river. thats the university life. not just studies. no army training required brother. army training is for the person who engage in ARMY and uni. life is for the person who involve in university. get it. :)

    u know what army training is ? :lol::no:

    i doubt this decision to give leadership training to uni. freshers. they'll learn it by themselves in the university.

    i agree with you 100% bro.

    university life, university culture, it's different from army life. Army guys just obey the rules. they cant think something beyond that. creativity is not there. from this kind f training they r building some people who only obey to the governments rules..if government say something to do they will do it. system will unbalanced by this and consequences will be there for sure.
     

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    i agree with you 100% bro.

    university life, university culture, it's different from army life. Army guys just obey the rules. they cant think something beyond that. creativity is not there. from this kind f training they r building some people who only obey to the governments rules..if government say something to do they will do it. system will unbalanced by this and consequences will be there for sure.


    TWO different persons traveling in TWO different path for TWO different expectations.:)

    after they achieved their destination we RESPECT both.
     

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    Inter University Students Federation (IUSF) today said that they are planning to file a petition at the Supreme Courts this week against making the leadership training program compulsory for new University entrants by the Higher Education Ministry.

    IUSF Convener Sanjeewa Bandara told Daily Mirror Online that the Higher Education Ministry has no authority to make the leadership training program compulsory for undergraduates. “We would not object to this measure if it benefited the students. But these campaigns are held residentially in military camps for three weeks and we do not believe that it would have a positive effect on the participating students,” Bandara said.

    Speaking further he stated that they will also be organizing more protests countrywide in objection to the leadership camps that are scheduled to be held in military camps. However, the leadership training program for the first batch of new university entrants is scheduled to commence on May 23. (Lakna Paranamanna)
    daily mirror


    what do you think about this guys?

    i think making this compulsory is a bullshit...

    give your opinion


    Yeah might be bullshit for some vein less geeks like u buggers but wat a man needs most in life is discipline & leadership abilities also some stamina. This is why most of the European nations have made it compulsory for each n every man to get their military training (Non weapon) after their high schools (finland , germany..etc..) this builds a great morale abt life in a man & they will face life with no fear & a perfect decipline, which will make the county a far more better one.

    This petition ting is done by the JVP Dominance in the unis cos they know once a man get a backbone their influence & violence is not gonna happen anymore, Dude just tink the bigger picture, u might neither have the strenght not the motivation to go through an endurance program. so at least shut ur wide mouth & mind ur own geek business,,, see what the country needs... it doesn't needs spineless geeks who are virtual heroes online... but real men who are capable of doing things as men..
     

    king_pandukabaya

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    hello bro.

    well. wish u ever have experienced a university life. university life is all about these things. A person who spends his part of life in uni. will learn what a leadership, how to work under pressure, how to make his life flow like a river. thats the university life. not just studies. no army training required brother. army training is for the person who engage in ARMY and uni. life is for the person who involve in university. get it. :)

    u know what army training is ? :lol::no:

    i doubt this decision to give leadership training to uni. freshers. they'll learn it by themselves in the university.

    You have misunderstood what I meant. I'm not talking about the weapons training here. Main thing in a army is discipline. Most of the times what the university students don't have is discipline. Some of the university students may get the skills from the university but not the majority. Most of the freshmen don't have the life skills. How to study effectively balancing every aspect of life. You have to remember that this is not A/L in which student devote their entire life to studies. We need to cast or mould students which have lack of skills to face new and dynamic world.
    If you have done cadet training in school you will understand how that thing helped to shape your character.
     

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    The objective of army and university is totally different.

    In the army they try to make people with similar abilities,ideas and strengths.( even their appearances are same ).So that they can replace each other at war.

    But in the university what matters most is the diversity. Each student should be unique with their abilities,ideas and strengths.
     

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    You have misunderstood what I meant. I'm not talking about the weapons training here. Main thing in a army is discipline. Most of the times what the university students don't have is discipline. Some of the university students may get the skills from the university but not the majority. Most of the freshmen don't have the life skills. How to study effectively balancing every aspect of life. You have to remember that this is not A/L in which student devote their entire life to studies. We need to cast or mould students which have lack of skills to face new and dynamic world.
    If you have done cadet training in school you will understand how that thing helped to shape your character.

    hey, how you say that a graduate havnt the skill to face their lives ? may be a fresher not. but after they are graduated they know what the life is. they build their own world. all you say these things coz of these Jeppo. They do their politics. May be they dont have discipline, thats the politics meant to be ryt ?
    But have you ever looked the other departments except than these Jeppo.?
     

    king_pandukabaya

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    hey, how you say that a graduate havnt the skill to face their lives ? may be a fresher not. but after they are graduated they know what the life is. they build their own world. all you say these things coz of these Jeppo. They do their politics. May be they dont have discipline, thats the politics meant to be ryt ?
    But have you ever looked the other departments except than these Jeppo.?

    Bro, I have't meant anything about JVPs anyway they are full of crap. Nothing wrong with giving skills at the beginning of university life. Then the freshmen can enhance their life skills in the university. Most of the people are scared or hesitate to send their children to this training is because they are held in army camps. But what the student learn are the English and life skills as well as how to behave in a disciplined way.
     
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    king_pandukabaya

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    People at Ministry of Higher Education gone mad. :mad: My Girl has been selected for Uni. and now she is crying because of this shit :( Err .. How can a girl stay at Army camps ?

    There are separate section for Female officers and other-ranks in army. For example Sri Lanka Army Women's Corps (SLAWC). So for female students, there are no interactions with male instructors or officers.