Jesus is servant of God in Bible &Quran

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I think you guys should not interpret our Lord words to surpport your religion we can say Muslims are slaves of allah because allah hate when you say he is your father

but Bible tells us a different thing (most beautiful thing a father can tell to the whole world)


"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16


In Christianity we have a personal kind of God , bt in Islam they do not knw who the hell is their praying

so please stop changing our Lord's words :rolleyes:

God bless you !

Here servant is the one who do thier master's will, here Jesus or anyother not taking abt Slaves (bt "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.")

"For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." Mark 10:45

B'live me even to be God's slave or servant is far more better than going to the enternal hell bt Bible clear says "we are his children "

Jesus is the right hand of God , always serve God we christian b'live jesus is God in human flesh he showed us to love , he came down & showed us how God really care abt us he even lay down his life

but Allah just setting up their in the heaven & just proclaim he is the GOD
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    [SIZE=+1]Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant?" [/SIZE]
    Do you see a difference between these two Bible versions?
    King James Version
    [SIZE=-1]Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. [/SIZE]​
    [SIZE=-1] [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.[/SIZE]
    New King James Version
    [SIZE=-1]Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. [/SIZE]​
    [SIZE=-1] [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.[/SIZE]
     

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    1.2.3.15 Jesus is God's servant
    All of mankind are the servants of God. If a man were to own another man then that man would be his servant. Obviously this servant would be held in a lower regard than this man's own children (or himself). We do not usually find people telling their sons (or themselves): "come here my servant," or "Go over there my servant." Let us compare this with what God has to say about Jesus (pbuh):


    1. Matthew 12:18: "Behold my servant, whom I have chosen."
    2. Acts 3:13(RSV): "The God of Abraham, and of Isaac,.... hath glorified his servant Jesus."
    3. Acts 4:27(RSV): "For of a truth against thy holy servant Jesus, whom thou hast anointed...."
    The Actual Greek word used is "pias" or "paida" which mean; "servant, child, son, manservant." Some translations of the Bible, such as the popular King James Version, have translated this word as "Son" when it is attributed to Jesus (pbuh) and "servant" for most everyone else, while more recent translations of the Bible such as the Revised Standard Version (RSV) now honestly translate it as "servant." As we shall see in later chapters, the RSV was compiled by thirty two Biblical scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 cooperating Christian denominations from the "most" ancient Biblical manuscripts available to them today. Chances are that no matter what your church or denomination you are able to name, that church took part in the correction of the King James Version of the Bible which resulted in the RSV.

    The exact same word "pias" is attributed to Jacob(Israel) in Luke 1:54 and translated as "servant":
    "He hath helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;."
    It is also applied to King David in Luke 1:69, and once again, it is translated as "servant":
    "....the house of his servant David;" (also see Acts 4:25).
    However, when it is applied to Jesus (e.g. Acts 3:13, Acts 4:27), NOW it is translated as "Son." (notice that it is not only translated as "son" but as "Son".) Why the double standard? Why the dishonest translation techniques?
    "And verily, among them is a party who twist their tongues with the Scripture that you might think that it is from the Scripture but it is not from the Scripture; and they say, 'It is from Allah' but it is not from Allah; and they speak a lie against Allah while [well] they know it!"
    The noble Qur'an, A'al-Umran(3):78
    "The Messiah will never scorn to be a servant of Allah, nor will the favored angels. Whosoever scorns His service and is proud, all such will He assemble unto Him; Then as for those who believed and did good works, unto them will he pay their wages in full and shall increase them from His bounty. [But] as for those who were scornful and proud, He shall punish hem with a painful torment, nor will they find for themselves other than Allah any ally or champion"
    The noble Qur'an, Al-Nissa(4):172-174
     

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    Another proof that he is a Servant: Let us look at the following verses from the Bible:
    1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
    2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
    counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD
    (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
    3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
    decide by what he hears with his ears;

    (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)
    In regards to the Spirit of GOD Almighty resting on Jesus, please visit: The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible.
    Anyway, a simple question here must be asked: How can Jesus be the Creator of the Universe if he feared GOD Almighty? Trinitarians often say "Jesus is the Son of God". And when one tries to get further elaboration from them about what exactly "Son of God" means, they end up telling him that Jesus is the Creator of the Universe.
    Almost every single trinitarian Christian that I debated believes that Jesus is the Creator of the Universe.

    Let us look at what Jesus said about himself and about GOD Almighty:
    "I do nothing of myself (From the NIV Bible, John 8:28)"
    "My Father (GOD) is greater than I (From the NIV Bible, John 14:28)"
    "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit (From the NIV Bible, Luke 23:46)"
    "And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"
    "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 24:36)"
    Do these quotes suggest at all that Jesus is in the same level as the Creator of the Universe?
     

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    As we've seen above, in Hebrew, "Son of God" can also be translated as "Servant of God", which literally means "Abdallah" in Arabic. Abd = Servant, and allah = Allah, or the Supreme GOD Almighty that is above all gods. So, Jesus being called "Son of God" does not mean anything about him being part of GOD or GOD Almighty Himself. It simply means "Servant of God" since Jesus existed among Jews and preached the Gospel to them.
    Allah Almighty said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
    Jesus himself in his own quotes in the New Testament refuted trinity as shown above. The Bible in the Old Testament also refuted trinity by saying that Jesus will have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him.
    How can GOD Almighty fear Himself? And why would the Creator of the Universe have any fear in Him?
    Jesus clearly was the Servant of GOD Almighty as Islam claims. Jesus was the Jews' Messiah and Leader, and Allah Almighty's Messenger to them. But he was not part of GOD Almighty, nor His biological son.
     

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    “The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Koran 9:30

    “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Koran 47:4

    “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12

    Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
    :no:

    These are just a few of the direct quotes that demonstrate the brutality and terror that accompanies the Muslim faith. Islam is not merely one among many charitable faiths; it is a satanically inspired religion that is fueled by hate and a thirst for world dominion. It is a known bit of history that Muhammad would receive his revelations from an Angel and furthermore it is recorded that at times of prayer and while receiving revelations Muhammad would begin foaming at the mouth(sounds like the exorcist right?). Thankfully the Apostle Paul forewarned us in the New Testament about deceptive influences that would come upon the world.

    “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!” Galatians 1:8


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    “The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Koran 9:30

    “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Koran 47:4

    “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12

    Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
    :no:

    These are just a few of the direct quotes that demonstrate the brutality and terror that accompanies the Muslim faith. Islam is not merely one among many charitable faiths; it is a satanically inspired religion that is fueled by hate and a thirst for world dominion. It is a known bit of history that Muhammad would receive his revelations from an Angel and furthermore it is recorded that at times of prayer and while receiving revelations Muhammad would begin foaming at the mouth(sounds like the exorcist right?). Thankfully the Apostle Paul forewarned us in the New Testament about deceptive influences that would come upon the world.

    “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!” Galatians 1:8


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    I would rather become a servant of God than becoming a children of the devil
    - Y2K :rofl:
     
    “The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Koran 9:30

    “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Koran 47:4

    “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12

    Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
    :no:

    These are just a few of the direct quotes that demonstrate the brutality and terror that accompanies the Muslim faith. Islam is not merely one among many charitable faiths; it is a satanically inspired religion that is fueled by hate and a thirst for world dominion. It is a known bit of history that Muhammad would receive his revelations from an Angel and furthermore it is recorded that at times of prayer and while receiving revelations Muhammad would begin foaming at the mouth(sounds like the exorcist right?). Thankfully the Apostle Paul forewarned us in the New Testament about deceptive influences that would come upon the world.

    “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!” Galatians 1:8


    :yes::cool:

    YOU HYPOCRITE Y2K, IF YOU WANNA KNOW ISLAM YOU BETTER COME TO US MUSLIMS RATHER GOING TO ATHEIST WEBSITE AND MISQUOTING THE ORIGINAL NOBLE QUR'AN TRANSLATION OUT OF CONTEXT. IF YOU ARE SERIOUS TO KNOW THE MUSLIM PERSPECTIVE FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED NOBLE QUR'AN VERSES (9:30, 47:4, 8:12 & 2:191) I WILL GIVE UPON YOUR REQUEST.

    ALSO YOU HYPOCRITE Y2K, YOU BETTER REMEMBER UNLIKE VATICAN CHURCH HIDDEN AGENDA'S WE MUSLIMS DON'T IMPLEMENT A SEPARATE VERSION OF ISLAM WHICH PLEASES SRI LANKA OR UNITED SNAKES AMERICA RATHER WE MUSLIMS LIVE UPON NOBEL QUR'AN AND DIE UPON IT THIS IS MUSLIMS ATTITUDE UNLIKE YOU HYPOCRITES.



    I would rather become a servant of God than becoming a children of the devil
    - Y2K :rofl:

    YOU HYPOCRITE Y2K, YOU CALL YOUR SELF A SERVANT OF GOD DAMN ON YOU. MAY GOD ALMIGHTY SEND HIS WRATH UPON YOU BLOODY SERVANT OF SATAN AND CROSS WORSHIPING VATICAN.

    WE MUSLIMS ARE GENUINE SLAVES OF GOD. YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW GOSPEL AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW IT. YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.

    WE MUSLIMS CIRCUMCISE AS JESUS (PBUH) DID BUT YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.

    WE MUSLIMS GROW BEARD AS JESUS (PBUH) DID BUT YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.

    WE MUSLIMS FELL ON OUR FACE WHILE PRAYING GOD AS JESUS (PBUH) DID BUT YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM. (MATTHEW 26:39)

    UPON ALL WE MUSLIMS DEFEND THE HONOUR OF AS JESUS (PBUH) AND MARY (PBUH) THAN YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DO DEFEND THE HONOUR JESUS (PBUH) AND MARY (PBUH).

    VERY FEW I MENTIONED TO YOU B'COZ YOU DON'T TRY TO UNDERSTAND.



    MR. YEAR 2000 PROBLEM (Y2K) !!!!
    WHY ARE YOU DOUBLE STANDARD???

    WHEN NOBLE AL QUR'AN ALLOWED POLYGYNY IN THIS 21st CENTURY IS OUT-DATED FOR YOU
    WHEN BIBLE TALKS ABOUT MANY 100'S & 1000'S OF WIVES AND CONCUBINES I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CALL IT !!!

    IF YOU CALL IT "OUT DATED" (POLYGYNY) I DON'T SEE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN ANY MORE RATHER A HYPOCRITE.....

    WHEN NOBLE AL QUR'AN COMMAND STONING (AGAINST ADULTERER AND ADULTERESS AFTER PROVING THE CHARGES) IT IS BARBARIC FOR YOU
    WHEN BIBLE COMMAND SO MANY STONINGS I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CALL IT !!!

    IF YOU CALL IT "BARBARIC" (STONING AN ADULTERER OR A ADULTERESS AFTER PROVING THE CHARGES) I DON'T SEE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN ANY MORE RATHER A HYPOCRITE.....




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    YOU HYPOCRITE Y2K, IF YOU WANNA KNOW ISLAM YOU BETTER COME TO US MUSLIMS RATHER GOING TO ATHEIST WEBSITE AND MISQUOTING THE ORIGINAL NOBLE QUR'AN TRANSLATION OUT OF CONTEXT. IF YOU ARE SERIOUS TO KNOW THE MUSLIM PERSPECTIVE FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED NOBLE QUR'AN VERSES (9:30, 47:4, 8:12 & 2:191) I WILL GIVE UPON YOUR REQUEST.


    Hey Mr. I just want to say it to ur Muslims friend I myself read the Koran & i will explain the it all one by one ok wait for it

    ALSO YOU HYPOCRITE Y2K, YOU BETTER REMEMBER UNLIKE VATICAN CHURCH HIDDEN AGENDA'S WE MUSLIMS DON'T IMPLEMENT A SEPARATE VERSION OF ISLAM WHICH PLEASES SRI LANKA OR UNITED SNAKES ? AMERICA RATHER WE MUSLIMS LIVE UPON NOBEL QUR'AN AND DIE UPON IT THIS IS MUSLIMS ATTITUDE UNLIKE YOU HYPOCRITES.


    Nobel Quran ? how do you called it Nobel ? is killing Nobel for u ?:no:


    YOU HYPOCRITE Y2K, YOU CALL YOUR SELF A SERVANT OF GOD DAMN ON YOU. MAY GOD ALMIGHTY SEND HIS WRATH UPON YOU BLOODY SERVANT OF SATAN AND CROSS WORSHIPING VATICAN.

    No Bible clear says : we are children of God , anyone can understand my statement if you read it carefully I said it is always better to be even a servent of GOd than become a Devil's child (just like u) :lol:

    WE MUSLIMS ARE GENUINE SLAVES OF GOD. YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW GOSPEL AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW IT. YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.

    GENUINE SLAVES ? that a perfect word yeah you just a slave of allah , you do not follow our gospel because our bible proved that Jesus is son of God , allah go mad when you say he had a son so you better not read the bible :lol:

    WE MUSLIMS CIRCUMCISE AS JESUS (PBUH) DID BUT YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.

    That is not necessary those days they did it bt after Jesus came he made your hear to be CIRCUMCISED. Muslims better to fellow it because you have to confort many wives na :lol:


    WE MUSLIMS GROW BEARD AS JESUS (PBUH) DID BUT YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM.

    Hey common it is not your beard is necessary it is your heart is more important your heart is the tample of GOD do not make it filthy


    WE MUSLIMS FELL ON OUR FACE WHILE PRAYING GOD AS JESUS (PBUH) DID BUT YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DON'T FOLLOW JESUS (PBUH) AS WE MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM. (MATTHEW 26:39)

    WHo fell on face ? that is very bad to bend like that :lol:

    UPON ALL WE MUSLIMS DEFEND THE HONOUR OF AS JESUS (PBUH) AND MARY (PBUH) THAN YOU SO CALLED CHRISTIANS DO DEFEND THE HONOUR JESUS (PBUH) AND MARY (PBUH).

    All of us know how you guys dishonor him taking his true identity , today you are killing our Jesus


    VERY FEW I MENTIONED TO YOU B'COZ YOU DON'T TRY TO UNDERSTAND.


    Same thing i have to tel you i think all the other people knows it except muslims

    MR. YEAR 2000 PROBLEM (Y2K) !!!!
    WHY ARE YOU DOUBLE STANDARD???

    WHEN NOBLE AL QUR'AN ALLOWED POLYGYNY IN THIS 21st CENTURY IS OUT-DATED FOR YOU
    WHEN BIBLE TALKS ABOUT MANY 100'S & 1000'S OF WIVES AND CONCUBINES I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CALL IT !!!

    IF YOU CALL IT "OUT DATED" (POLYGYNY) I DON'T SEE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN ANY MORE RATHER A HYPOCRITE.....

    WHEN NOBLE AL QUR'AN COMMAND STONING (AGAINST ADULTERER AND ADULTERESS AFTER PROVING THE CHARGES) IT IS BARBARIC FOR YOU
    WHEN BIBLE COMMAND SO MANY STONINGS I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CALL IT !!!

    IF YOU CALL IT "BARBARIC" (STONING AN ADULTERER OR A ADULTERESS AFTER PROVING THE CHARGES) I DON'T SEE YOU AS A CHRISTIAN ANY MORE RATHER A HYPOCRITE.....




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    AS I told you before Jesus made all things new , people got misunderstand abt our GOd then he came down to show his love


    That's it for NOW :rolleyes: