The Gift of Forgiveness

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Brother do not insult my Jesus, this is not God taught us, Bible’s Cleary given some basic rules

you know nothing about Christianity dude

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there is a nice saying "You have to know the law, to break the law"
Yeah right, I don't know about the ten commandments. Anyways, you are missing the point. Yes there are laws. But the question is what happens when you break the laws?
Basically nothing right? All you need to do is ask for forgiveness and bam, you are forgiven.

I can actually give the 10 commandments in two lines.

(1) You can do whatever you like.
(2) Ask for forgiveness sincerely and you will be forgiven.

So your lengthy explanations are giving nothing if you are not talking about the question in hand. Do not post irrelevant stuff.

According to your religion above two commandments are justified right?
 

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So far thanks to Y2K I was able to understand some of the basic Christian ideas well. Here are some of them.

(1) The idea of forgiveness of Christian GOD is beyond the comprehension of human made laws, and therefor humans.
GOD thinks not believing him is an unforgivable sin while any other kind of wrongful act however big it is (Ex: Murder, Rape, etc) should be forgiven as long as the person is willing to praise GOD.

(2) GOD actually thinks this is a fair system.

(3) Therefor there's no need of doing the good that we understand. Do whatever shit you like, you will be forgiven as long as you ask for forgiveness sincerely and your place in heaven is secured.

(4) The so called ten commandments can be summarized as follows.

i) Do whatever shit you like
ii) Ask for forgiveness sincerely and all that will be forgiven.
 

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    Cristian are the least forgiving and most wrenched people on the face of the Earth.How many crusades. US invaded so many countries and screwed them . British did the same. So did the Portuguese, The Dutch, the french. How many world wars. Hitler was a racist Christian. He killed so many people. World war I and World War II. No end in sight. You need others forgiveness. Change your attitude.
     

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    Yeah right, I don't know about the ten commandments. Anyways, you are missing the point. Yes there are laws. But the question is what happens when you break the laws?


    Yes there are some laws, there are some penalties and punishments also it is very clear, brother bible clearly says that you will reap what you sow

    Basically nothing right? All you need to do is ask for forgiveness and bam, you are forgiven
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    Brother it is not that easy can you forgive your brother that easily? remember you can not fool God


    I can actually give the 10 commandments in two lines.

    (1) You can do whatever you like.
    (2) Ask for forgiveness sincerely and you will be forgiven.


    This might be devilish interpretation of "Forgiveness" as I told you before today you are murdering many people than those who actually kill by a sword :yes:




    So your lengthy explanations are giving nothing if you are not talking about the question in hand. Do not post irrelevant stuff.

    you need ungodly world that is why you like to live your life in the darkness

    According to your religion above two commandments are justified right?


    One question I should ask from you

    We know president has power to free some prisoners in special occasions, so are you against with that also?

    Brother imagine one person came to know about Jesus (just like you he think after doing all those horrible sins later on he can ask forgiveness for everything) and he start doing all kind of evil and ask forgiveness

    One person never knew Jesus but he also did all kind of evil things but later on he accept Jesus Christ and truly repent what he has done and ask forgiveness meanwhile he forgive others because he knows the importance of being forgiven and also he start to live his life like Jesus

    Which person God will accept? (I know the answer but if you like try to get an idea)

    All the best
     

    Y2K

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    For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

    B'live me brother we are truely not worthy of it but we need it otherwise there is no life Jesus Christ himself is the life

    If you accept Jesus means you choice Life otherwise you will die in your sins there will be a 2nd death
     

    Y2K

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    Romans 5:21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
     

    Y2K

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    Galatians 6:8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.

    Romans 8:13 For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live,
     

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    "සාමවදිම දෙව ගතියක්, වැරදි කිරිමට පෙලබිම මිනිස් ගතියක්"

    මේ AcientGlory උපාසක මහත්තා සමාව දිම නැමති උතුම් ගතිය අසාදාරණයි කියලා Campaign එකක් පටන් අරගෙන එක නිසා පොඩි පැහැදිලි කිරිමක් කල යුතු වෙනවා

    පුතේ සමාව ලැබිමට ඔබ එයට සුදුසු විය යුතු වෙන්වා ගොඩාක් වෙලාවට වරදක් කරාට පස්සෙ තමයි ගොඩාක් අයට එහි බැ‍රැරුම් කම තෙරෙන්නෙ නමුත් ඔවුන් ඉර පසු සොයන්නෙ ගැලවිමෙ මාර්ගයක් ගැන

    අපි දන්නවා උසවිය උනත් කොතරම් හොදට හිටියත් අවවාද කර තමයි මුදා හරින්නෙ , හැබැයි නැවත් නැවතත් එ වරදම සිදු කරනවා නම් ඔහුට ගැලවිම ලැබෙයිද? උසාවියට කොලේ වහන්න්න පුලුවන් වුනාට දෙවියන්ට කොලය වහන්න ඔබට කවම දාකවත් බැ

    වරද සගවා ගන්නා සපල නොවේ යියි බයිබලයෙ සදහන් වෙනවා , අද ඔබ අපි දකිනවා අපිට වැරද්දක් පෙන්වා දුන්නොත් එක පිලිගන්න අපි කැමති නැ අපි දකිනවා සියලුම බලු වැඩ කරලා එහි වගකිමෙන් බැහැර වෙන්න පමණක් දෙවියව යොදාගන්නවා ඔහු කරපු බලු වැඩවල ප්‍රතිබල බුක්ති විදිනකොට පමන ඔහුට දොස් කියන්න දෙවි කෙනෙකු ඉන්නවා මෙ ලොකයෙ හොද දෙවල්වලට දෙවිකෙනෙකු නැ ඔහුගෙ බුදලය වගෙයි තමයි හැසිරෙන්නෙ

    ඉතින් මොඩයෙකුට සමාව දිමේ උතුම් ගුනන්ගය කියලා දෙන්න ගියාම මෙ වගේ නොහිතපු දෙවල්වලට මුහුන දෙන්න වෙනවා

    මෙකත් හරියට නිකන් වලෙ වටිච්ච මිනිහාව ගොඩාගන්න කවහරි එව්වාම එයගෙ ඇයි අවේ මව බෙරගන්න කියලා අහනවා වගෙ දෙයික් වගෙ තම්යි මදක් හිතලා බලන්න

    පුතා ඔබ කොච්චරනම් පච් කරනවාද? නමුත් ඔබට අනුව ඔබ ඉතා හොද පුද්ගලයෙකු වෙන්න පුලුවන් නමුත් කෙනෙකු කාම මිච්චාචාරය කරනවා, දුරාචාරයෙ හැසිරෙනවා නොදැනුවත්කම නිසා පසුව ඔහු එහි නිරසබව වටහාගන්නවා සෑබැ ලෙස සිත් හැරිමකින් සියල්ල අතහැර දාමනවා එ විතරක් නෙමෙයි ඔහුට මානව තෙරුම් යනවා ඔහු කල දෙහි විපාක නිරස බව

    මට මතකයි කෙනෙකු කමමිච්චරය යනු කුමක්ද යැයි විමසනකොට මෙ දරුවා දුන්න පිලිතුර , කොන්ඩම් එකක් බාවිතා කරනවා නම් එකෙ අවුලක් නැලු ඉතින් එකෙම්ම පෙනියනවා මොහු කාගෙ නියොජනයක් ද කියලා

    සවන් දෙත්තො සවන් දෙත්වා!
     

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    Forgiving someone for a wrong done to you personally is indeed highly morale and noble. It is a process that happens in your mind and no one else is affected by it except you and the forgiven party. This has nothing to do with a religion, but is individual to oneself. Many religions promote such acts.

    So here you are Ok with this doctrine? ha:yes: good


    But forgiving for the damage done by same wrong act to society should be dealt by the society and forgiveness is rarely part of the process. A crime done against the society should be punished accordingly. This is why there are laws and a society approved sentence system. The system is built to give justice.

    No harm Bible says Everyone must obey state authorities

    Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities - Romans 13:1




    The process of confession and forgiveness in Christianity is really difficult to grasp for me in this context. I would be sent to eternal hell fire just because I refuse to believe in/love my father. But any one can go and do murder and repent his crimes sincerely and he will be given a place in heaven. I don't see a fair system at all.


    I can see your problem is only with all loving Christian God

    Brother no where in the bible God or son of god says that you will go to hell just because you refuse to b'live in Him (where did you get this wrong idea? from Devil? ) Bible clear says wages of sins is death , God has given some moral standards but we human always fail i think most of the time we don't think about other people

    But If we true understand this fallen nature and ask god I know I have done terrible things against you but is there any other way to be free? Actually you do not need to ask this God has promised us that he will bring Salvation to the people like us




    That is why I always said Christian God never beg worship he never said "because you do not b;live you will perish rather you will perish in your sin if you do not b'live in him means you have ignore the only way that you can be with God

    අපෙ සින්හල රසිකයන්ටත් මම මෙක මදක් මැහැදිලි කරලා දෙන්නම් මෙ දරුවා හිතාගෙන ඉන්නෙ ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව විශ්වාස නොකරන නිසා අපි අපායට යනවා කියලා මෙක වැරදි සන්කල්පයක් සම්පුර්ණ දහම් විකෘති කිරිමක්

    අපි දන්නවා අපි දස පණත්වලට විරුද්ධව වැඩ කරනවා, සරලව කියන්වා නම් දෙවියන්ගෙ අනට පි‍ටුපා වැරදි කරනවා ඉතින් බයිබලයෙ ඉතා පැහැදිලිව සදහන් වෙනවා "පාපයෙ මිල මරණයයි" ඉතින් මෙහෙම වැරදි කරන අය එතුමන්ගෙ රාජයට සුදුසු නැ කිසිසෙත්ම . නමුත් කිසියම් කෙනෙකු තමන්ගෙ මෙ ස්බාවය තෙරුම් අරගෙන එතුමන්ගෙන් අහනවා නම් ජෙසුනි මගෙ වැරදි මා පිලිගන්නවා මා දන්නවා මට ඔබෙ නීතිය අනුව මරනය හිමිවිය යුතුයි නමුත් ජෙසුනි මට ගැලවිමෙ මාර්ගයක් වෙන ඇත්තෙම නැද්ද? මා මගෙ වැරදි හදාගන්නම් මට සමාවෙන්න ! ඉතින් මෙහෙම කට්ටියකට අර අසිමිත ප්‍රමය සනාත කරමින් එතුමා ගැලවිමේ එකම මාර්ගයක් දෙනවා පොරොන්දු වුන පරදි පරණ ගිවිසුමෙ වහල්බාවයෙන් මුදාගත්තා වගෙ ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ අද අපිව පාපයෙ වහල් බවින් මුදවා ගන්නවා

    ඇත්තටම ගොඩාක් අය හිතන්නෙ ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව පිලිගත්තෙ නැති වරදට අපාය නියම වෙනවා කියා නමුත් ඇත්තටම සිදුවන්නෙ දෙව නිතිය අනුව එකම ගැලවිමෙ මාර්ගය ඔබ පිලිගෙන නොමැති සහ අනුගමනය නොකරමයි

    මෙක උදාහරනයක් මගින් කියන්නම්

    ඔබට කලින් කියලා තිබුනත් වැරදි පරක ගිහින් වලක වැටෙනවා ඉතින් වැ‍ටුනට පස්සෙ ඔබ දෙවියන්ට කන්න ලව් කරනවා මාව බෙරගන්න කියලා පස්සෙ දෙවියන් වහන්සෙ මනුස්සයෙකු ලෙස ඔබව බෙරගන්න එනවා එතුමන්ගෙ ජිවිතයද නොසලකා එතුම කියනවා ඔබෙ කන්නලව්ව දෙවියන අසා ඔබව මරනයෙන් ගලවා ගැනිම උදෙසා මව එව්වා කියලා මෙතුමා තවදුරටත් කියනවා මා මෙන් දිවි පරදුවට ත්බා ඕබව බෙරාගන්න තව කෙනෙකු නෙවන බවත් මා කෙරෙහි විශ්වාස කර මට අත දෙන්න කියා එහෙම නැති වුනොත් ඔබ මරණයට පත් වෙවි කියා

    ඉතින් මෙ දරුවා එ කියන එක අහන්නෙ නැතුව උඩබලාගෙන හිටියොත් කව්ද මරනයට වගකිව යුතුවන්නෙ? සමහර අය ඉන්නවා මම වටිලා නැ මට පුලුවන් ගොඩාට එනන් ඔය ඔයාගෙ වඩක් බලාගන්න කියන අයත්, සමහර අය ඉන්නවා තව කෙනෙකු එවි ඔයා නිකන් මැරෙන්න ඔනැ නැ නෙ කියන් අයත් එ කොහොම වුනත් මොහු මිය ගියානම් එයට හෙතුව කුමක්ද? 1. වැරදි පාරක අන නොතකා යාම 2. බෙරාගැනිමට ආ පුද්ගලයාව ප්‍රතික්ශෙප කිරිම

    SO you missed the second chance , and God gave you the 2nd chance if you miss both you will die in your sins

    God is good and very kind to offer you a second chance but yet you like to live in the darknes

    ඉතින් දැන් කාරණය පැහැදිලි නෙ ඔබ ආපායට යන්නෙ ඔබෙ පව් නිසා නමුත් දෙවියන් ඕබ්ට ගොඩාක් ආදරය නිසා ගැලවිමෙ මාර්ගයක් දුන්නා ඔබ එයද පිලිගත්තෙ නැ එහෙනම් ඔබ ඔබේ පච් තුලම මිය ඇදෙනවා මෙක තමයි සතය

    මා කලින් කිය්ව්වා වගෙ ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ කියන්නෙ නැ මට වැදපන් මාම ඔබලාව බෙරගන්නම් කියලා එතුමා කියන්නෙ මා ජිවිත් වුනා සෙ දෙවියන්ට ප්‍රසන්න වන සෙ ජිවත් වන්න

    A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another

    Remember no where in the bible he said "worship me" that is all i want rather he said love one another because God is Love
     
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    So far thanks to Y2K I was able to understand some of the basic Christian ideas well. Here are some of them.

    You should thank to Devil because you got the whole thing wrong brother , I am always here to correct you ok go on

    (1) The idea of forgiveness of Christian GOD is beyond the comprehension of human made laws, and therefor humans.

    Brother it is God this is his law , wages of sin is death but Christ die for us he paid the panalty you have no idea about it

    we know in our weak human law says if you break the law you have to pay the panalty if you pay the panalty you are free (as long as law is permit to do so) Jesus never break any laws rather he complete the law before him there will be no way out




    GOD thinks not believing him is an unforgivable sin while any other kind of wrongful act however big it is (Ex: Murder, Rape, etc) should be forgiven as long as the person is willing to praise GOD.

    again you got it wrong Jesus never said you will go to hell because you disb'live in him for more details pls refer my previous post , all i can say is you got it dead wrong man

    Brother no b'live in him means you reject the only way out then you will die in your sins according to the law :( :baffled:

    another thing is praising lord is not related to forgiveness you are getting it completely wrong

    you praise people when you relaese what he has done or you will praise people as a way of appreciation

    God never said praise the lord then he will forgive you, rather forgive others then he will forgive you also, moreover he said repent and turn away from your sins and b'live in him also , b'live in him means to be like jesus he set an example






    (2) GOD actually thinks this is a fair system.
    Brother as i always said you can not escape from his law someone has to pay the price Jesus christ paid that ultimate price

    Forgiveness to those who became good is a fair system for me otherwise all humans will die in their sins, no one will survive


    (3) Therefor there's no need of doing the good that we understand. Do whatever shit you like, you will be forgiven as long as you ask for forgiveness sincerely and your place in heaven is secured.

    Brother if you b'live in Jesus means you will try to be like Jesus , If you b'live in him means you will be like him (because he is the way) if you obey him means you should love one another

    Just asking forgiveness is not enough you have to prove him that why you deserve forgiveness , His commandment is simple "love one another" his rule is simple "forgive others you will be forgiven"



    (4) The so called ten commandments can be summarized as follows.

    i) Do whatever shit you like
    ii) Ask for forgiveness sincerely and all that will be forgiven.

    Brother you are really funny

    We know there are some trafic rules, laws says if anyone break it there is a panalty for it (Ex: Rs 5000)

    Now Here is how AcientGlory will think

    "As long as you can afford to pay the panalty break the law" :lol:

    see how foolish the way you think :D:rolleyes:

    but wise people will understand the real purpose of the law then even though they have enough money to pay the penalty for the sake of others safety they will never breaks it , if they breaks it accidently they have to pay the price



    after you know this , following bible verses applicable to you

    "I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."

    2 Corinthians 3:3 "You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts."

    May God bless you child
     

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    God will never ask how long you pray? How many times you praise me? This is why Christianity defers to any other monotheistic religions

    you ask muslims how they can go to heaven they will say you have to pray 5 times but what did the Christ say?


    Mattew 25:34 “Then the King will say to those at his right hand, ’Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ’Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink?’ And the king will answer them, ’Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of my brethren, you did it to me.’”


    "For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." - Mark 10:45


    Question is can you give your life to your brother?
     

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    මෙක ලස්සන් කතාවක් බොහොවිට මෙවගෙ දෙයක් තමයි වෙන්නේ නමුත් එතනදි සාතන් අවස්ස වෙන්නෙ නැ ඔබේ හර්දසාක්ශිය ප්‍රමානවත් වෙවි

    My Attorney

    After living a "decent" life, my time on earth came to an end. The first thing I remember is sitting on a bench in the waiting room of what looked like a court house. The doors opened and I was instructed to come in and have a seat at the defense table. As I looked around I saw the prosecutor - a villainous looking man who snarled as he stared at me. He definitely was the most evil person I had ever seen. I sat down and looked to my left, where, seated, was my lawyer - a kind and gentle looking man whose appearance seemed familiar to me. The corner door flew open and the judge appeared, dressed in full flowing robes. He commanded an awesome presence as he moved across the room. I couldn't take my eyes off of him. As he took his seat behind the bench, he said, "Let us begin."

    The prosecutor rose and began his opening statement, "My name is Satan and I am here to show you why this man belongs in hell." He began by describing the lies I had told, things I had stole, and how I had cheated others in the past. Satan told of other horrible perversions that were once in my life and the more he spoke, the further down in my chair I sank. I was so embarrassed that I couldn't look at anyone, even my own lawyer, as the Devil told of sins that even I had completely forgotten. As upset as I was at Satan for revealing all those things about me, I was equally upset at my representative, who sat there silently - not offering any form of defense at all. I knew I was guilty of all those things, but I had done some good in my life - couldn't that at least cancel out part of the bad things I had done? Satan finished with a fury and closed by saying, "This man belongs to me in hell, since he is guilty of all these charges, and there is no person who can prove otherwise."

    When it was his turn, my lawyer first asked if he might approach the bench. Satan yelled, "I object!," but the judge remarked, "Overruled," and beckoned my attorney to come forward. As he got up and started walking, I was able to see him in his full splendor and majesty. I realized why he seemed so familiar. My attorney was Jesus Christ, my Lord and my Savior. He stopped at the bench and softly said to the judge, "Hi Dad," and then he turned to address the court. "Satan was correct in saying that this man has sinned. I won't deny any of these allegations. And yes, the wages of sin is death, and this man deserves to be punished." Jesus took a deep breath and turned to his Father with outstretched arms and proclaimed, "However, I died on the cross so that every person might have eternal life. Since this man has accepted me as his Savior, he is mine." My Lord continued, "His name is written in the book of life, and no one can snatch him from me. Satan still does not understand that this man is not to be given justice, but rather mercy." As Jesus sat down, he quietly paused, looked at his Father and replied, "There is nothing else that needs to be done. I've done it all."

    The judge lifted his mighty hand, slammed the gavel down, and bellowed from his lips, "This man is free. The penalty for him has already been paid in full. Case dismissed!"

    As my Lord led me away, I could hear Satan ranting and raving, "I won't give up, I'll win the next one." I asked Jesus as he gave me my instructions where to go next, "Have you ever lost a case?" Christ lovingly smiled and said, "Everyone that has come to me and asked me to represent them has received the same verdict as you, Paid in Full."
     

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    අපි දන්නවා එතුමන්ගේ විනිස්චය සාදාරන එකක් වෙනවා, ගොඩාක් අය හිතන්නේ මෙක හුදු ස්බාදහමෙ නිතින් කියලා නැ නිතිය දුන්නෙ දෙවියන් වහන්සෙ නිති කඩ කරනවා කියන්නෙ එතුමන්ට විරුද්ධ විමක් මෙක පෞද්ගලිකව එතුමන්ට විරුද්ධව කරන ලද වැරද්දක් වෙනවා නමුත් එතුමන් වුනත් එතුමාගෙ නිතිවලට පිටින් ගියෙනැ බයිබලයෙ පැහැදිලිව ප්‍රකාශ කරනවා පාපයේ මිල මරණයයි කියලා ඉතින් එතුමන්ව විශ්චාස කරන අය එතුමාගෙ ශරිරයත් සමගම මිය ගියා, එවිතරක් නෙමෙයි එතුමා තුල සිටිය අය එතුමා වගෙ උක්තාන වෙනවා සදාහටම

    එතුමා පාපයෙ මිල ගෙව්වා, සම්හර වෙලාවට ගොඩාක් අය අහන දෙයක් තමයි ඇයි ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙට මිය යන්නට වුනෙ දෙවියන්ට බැරිද නිකන්ම සාමාව දෙන්න කියා , හෙතුව මම කලින් සදහන් කර පරිදි එතුමාගෙ නිතිවලට එතුමාට ගරු කරා නැතිනම් අපිට ගරුකරන්න කියන්න සදාචරාත්මක් අයිතියක් නැතුව යනවා නෙ ඉතින් මෙක පරණ ගිවිසුම පුරාවටම අපට උගන්වන දෙයක් මිනිසාව වහල් බවින් මුදා ගත්තා වගේ ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ අපිව පාපයෙන් බෙරාගත්තා පොරොන්දු දෙශය ලබා දුන්නා මෙන් සදාතනික ජිවනය ලබා දෙනබව අපිට විශ්වාසයි.

    මිනිගෙක් වුනා නම් සමහර විට තමාගෙ පුතා කියලා නිතියට එරෙහිව යමක් කරන්න බොහොවිට ඉඩ තියෙන්වා නමුත් දෙවියන් වහන්සෙ එහෙම කරන්නෙ නැ පොඩ්ඩක් හිතන්න නිතීය ක්‍රියාත්මක කරන අය නිතිගරුක නොවේ නම් කොහොමද අනෙක් අයගෙන් එහෙම බාලා පොරොත්තු වෙන්නෙ ඉතින් මෙ කතාව නව ගිවිසුමෙ පැහැදිලිව සදහන් වෙනවා මදක් කියවා බලන්න

    ඕබ්ට දෙවි පිහිටයි
     

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    How Christians Lie.

    Cristian forgiveness is by exterminating enemies. Killing them and Ethnically cleanse them . LTTE did .Kill people in Mosque. Kill people in Buddhist Temples. Kill people in Hindu kovils. Ethnically cleansed people Muslims and Sinhalese from north.

    See what US, UK, Dutch, Portuguese, French, German did to the world.




     

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    How Christians Lie.

    Cristian forgiveness is by exterminating enemies. Killing them and Ethnically cleanse them . LTTE did .Kill people in Mosque. Kill people in Buddhist Temples. Kill people in Hindu kovils. Ethnically cleansed people Muslims and Sinhalese from north.

    See what US, UK, Dutch, Portuguese, French, German did to the world.



    Brother why Muslims are so pissed off with christians?


    Let the all elakirians who why ?


    Ok first we christian b'live Jesus is God in human form so whatever Jesus said is very important to all

    We know nowhere in the bible or any historical documents says that Jesus Kill anyone rather he speak against it , according to my view he is the father of non-vialonce (අවිහින්සාවාදයෙ පියා)

    Check out his teachings

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. - Matthew 26:39-42


    When soilders arrest Jesus:

    Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. 51With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.

    52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. Matthew 26:52



    If Mohomed was there we all know he will kill all those people right? now that's the difference


    Not only you Allah also hate those who b'live in Jesus Christ , now lets take some verse from the so called holy quran

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers] :no: Discremination in Quran? what the hell is persecution of muslims is worse than slaughering non-believers? is this God all merciful?

    Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

    Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah"

    This is why many muslims becoming a terriorist , we can see one Mr. Zakir also mention it

    Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). " :oo:


    Here is the reson why you hate me and all other Christians

    Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

    Note: "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. :no:

    SO brother muslims says that bible is corrupted what Jesus said is wrong (but Quran accept Jesus) ok lets say bible is currupted .... lets say Almighty God was unable to protect his revalation ..... Ok to correct that he gave a another holy book , question is can we called these kind of things "HOLY"?

    what about his mighty Messenger?

    let the whole world know the truth



    Let me let you one final thing , those who kill each other even in the name of God or Jesus is not a true Christian (You can see how Jesus hate killings) but Jesus clearly gave us a good standard to dishtingush his real followers

    he said : “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” - John 13:34-35

    So if you love one another you can not kill or do any harm to any person not like in quran Jesus never said love Chrisitans only he said love one another in general

    I think you got my point

    ibnanv you anger won't do any harm because Jesus foretold us that people will persecute us because of his name so whenever people do all kind of evil things I remember my Lord's instructions

    "I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world." John 16:33


    it amazing isn't it ? Jesus new the price of representing the truth before 2011 years:yes:
     

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    The language Jesus uses leaves little room for exclusions. He Himself, in the agony of crucifixion, says without reservation,

    "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." (Luke 23:34)

    His plea applies, not only to those who cried out for His death and nailed Him to the stake, but to all, past and future, who would be just as responsible as they were and need God's forgiveness. That includes everybody.

    Will we be happy and blessed if we OBEY?

    Finally, we must notice John 13 where Jesus concludes His comments on foot washing:

    "If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them." (John 13:17)

    Observe that His emphasis is on their application, not on whether we know about them or even understand them.

    In this verse, Jesus makes a very positive statement: We WILL be happy if we put this teaching into practice. He knew that grudges, hate, anger, and lack of forgiveness do nothing but shackle us and hinder our spiritual growth. If we let them hang around, they will eventually destroy us. Forgiving even those who have done things spitefully against us (Matthew 6:44) unlocks our shackles and releases us from feelings of animosity. When we rid ourselves of these burdens, we can find inner peace and true happiness.

    If we can now see how much more meaningful the foot washing ceremony is, and how important it is that we emulate the example Jesus set for us, then the Passover can have a greater impact this year. It shows the depth of Jesus' love in making Himself a sacrifice for us so we could be forgiven of our sins. Remember,

    "'Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends.'" (John 15:13)

    and Jesus Christ did just that for our forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life.
     

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    අපෙ සහොදරයා අහනවා ඔනැම මිනිමරුවෙකුට , හොරෙකුට ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව පිලිඅරගෙන සමාව අරගත්තම සුවර්ගෙට යන්න පුලුවන් වෙනවාද කියලා?

    එහෙම ඔනැම කෙනෙකුට යන්න බැ, ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව පිලිගත්තා කියලා පල්ලි ගියත් ගැලවිම ඇත් නොවෙන්න පුලුවන්

    nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. - 1 Corinthians 6:10

    ඔබට කිව යුතු විශෙස දෙයක් තියෙනවා සමහ්ර විට සැබැ ලෙස සිත් හරුනු සොරාට සුවර්ගයට යන්න පුලුවන් වෙවි හැමදාම පල්ලි යන නාමික කිතුනුවකුට එසෙ නොහැකි වුනත්

    ඔබ නියම ලේස පසු තැවි ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙන් සමාව ඉල්ලා ඔබෙ ජිවිතය ශුද්ධාත්ම බලයෙන් වෙනස් කරගත යුතු වෙනව. ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙව පිලිගන්නවා කියන්නෙ පල්ලි යන එක නෙමෙයි එතුමාගෙ ඉගැන්විම් අනුව ජිවත් විම ඔබට දෙවියන්ට බොරු කරන්න බැ සමහර විට ඔබට කරදර ‍රැසකට මුහුන දෙන්න වෙවි ඔබ නියම ලෙස දෙවියන් තුල නොමැතිනම් විපත් පැමිනිකල ඔබගෙ විශ්චාසය නැතිව යන්වා
     

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    "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' - Matthew 7:21-23

    මෙන්න මෙතන ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙ සදහන් කරන්නෙ බොරු නාමික කිතුනුවන් ගැන සමහර අය ජෙසුස් වහන්සෙගෙ නාමය යොදාගන්නවා තම මඩිය තරකරගන්න තව සමහරු නමට කතොලික හැම ඉරිදාටම පල්ලි ගිහින් නමුත් එතුමාගෙ ඉගැන්විම් ජිවිතය තුල දක්නට නැ , සමාව දෙන්නෙ නැ අසල්වැසියට ප්‍රම කරලා නැ තමන්ගෙ අය ගැන පමණක් බලලා සමහර අය ලොකයටම ඇහෙන්න බන කියා පෞද්ගලික ජිවිතය අවුල් සමහර අය මිනිමර මර සමාව ගන්න එනවා පල්ලියට ඉතින් එ අයට එතුමා කියන්නෙ මෙ ටික තමයි එක නිසා අපෙ මෙ යලුවන් කලබල වෙන්න එපා බොරු කාරයින්ට සුවර්ගයෙ ඉඩක් ඇත්තෙම නැ

    ඕබ්ට ජෙසු පිහිටයි



    "And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. For all who do evil hate the light and do not come to the light, so that their deeds may not be exposed. But those who do what is true come to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that their deeds have been done in God." (NRSV, John 3:19-21)