Exterior - Renault Kwid Sri Lanka

[shan4djfun]

As much as I hate to admit it, it looks like Indian-made low cost cars are going to be the future of Sri Lanka

If Shan is telling the truth 2000+ Renault KWIDs were sold in SL by now. I'm sure the numbers wouldn't differ much when it comes to Altos.

Mitsubishi's total number of vehicle sales in Sri Lanka in 2014 was merely 1838. (Brand-new, imported by United Motors) This includes all Mitsubishi products - Lancer EX, Lancer, Triton, Delica, Pajero, Outlander, Outlander PHEV, Mirage, Attrage

With the new government's tax schemes these numbers would fall further.

With rapidly falling reconditioned car market (they stopped importing reconditioned Japanese vehicles to SL for 6 months didn't they?) Percentage of Japanese vehicles on SL roads would fall in a rapid rate

Quote from the aluthcar blog:

People with money are always buying vehicles according to their budget/requirement and the likes.

even with 300% taxes still vehicles are selling in Sri Lanka.

A week back 1500 kwid's have been sold by AMW

My guess is people who were interested in buying alto must have shifted to kwid.

Affordable is not equal to shit, that is a false propaganda made by some poeple.

I think that era is going to be over soon my friend, people are going to afford brand new cars

 

[Hyaenidae]

Affordable is not equal to shit, that is a false propaganda made by some poeple.

Nobody considers KWIDs and Altos "shitty" because they are "affordable", young padwan. Refer to this.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1750162

That article doesn't even discuss the lack of safety features. This is why people consider Indian made budget cars which sold in SL for a hefty price tag are shitty.

But people have no other choice because of the insane taxes imposed by the GOSL. Back in 2014 an Alto cost 1.4mil. now it costs 2.0+mil.

 

[phetti222]

The Kwid must be having about 130% taxes on it.

 

[shan4djfun]

Nobody considers KWIDs and Altos "shitty" because they are "affordable", young padwan. Refer to this.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1750162

That article doesn't even discuss the lack of safety features. This is why people consider Indian made budget cars which sold in SL for a hefty price tag are shitty.

But people have no other choice because of the insane taxes imposed by the GOSL. Back in 2014 an Alto cost 1.4mil. now it costs 2.0+mil.

My friend no car is perfect, you accepted that

No car is safe on the road, no car has 100% safety

Regardless of the make prices of the cars are higher than their retail price in Sri Lanka because of the tax.

Yes, people make their choices according to budget and requirement.

Just read that thread, he is talking about Indian cars.

doesn't say which one and he is not talking about the kwid

besides, that generalization is wrong

1. kwid gets 2 yr / 50000km warranty. Engine is fine in theses models it is pathetic to think anything is immortal

2. corrosion free guarantee is there for kwid (metal used in Nissan plant KR )

3. Crash test is failed because there were no luxury safety options in 2016 version. its a budget car if we look at correctly, it is ridiculous to see recalling 3.37 mil cars because of faulty air bag is not seen as a safety issue.

4.No car can be driven if you dont maintain it properly. Now most cabs are altos, marutis and nanos in Sri Lanka. They have mileage over 200,000 and they are doing pretty fine. You see that argument is not valid.

5. And are there any dashboards made from fully metal and diamonds? they are over 50% plastic in every car.

6. about paints and fractures, that is applicable for any vehicle regardless of the make. If you scratch your car pretty and run without fixing there is a high possibility of happening that. Kwid has everything except under coat and you can get it done if you are paranoid or living near or in a coastal area.

7. again I have to say no car is perfect. go for a more reliable, low cost maintaining and the one that fit your budget and requirement.

susuki budget cars have been there In SL more than 10 years and they are doing pretty fine + they have their own market.

"so again affordability is not equal to shit"

some folk's mind set is pretty novice. but the problem here is thinking that they know everything

 

[kingcapton]

lankawa wage ratawala minis jeevithayaka thiyana watinakama kohomath aduiy. (for ex. samahara surgery,scan, test etc. walata masa ganan awrudu ganan polime inna wenawa) loke diunu ratawal ekka baluwahama, eka nisa dunu ratawala wahana walata thiyana safty standerd apita adala nane..!

 

[kingcapton]

My friend no car is perfect, you accepted that

No car is safe on the road, no car has 100% safety

Regardless of the make prices of the cars are higher than their retail price in Sri Lanka because of the tax.

Yes, people make their choices according to budget and requirement.

Just read that thread, he is talking about Indian cars.

doesn't say which one and he is not talking about the kwid

besides, that generalization is wrong

1. kwid gets 2 yr / 50000km warranty. Engine is fine in theses models it is pathetic to think anything is immortal

2. corrosion free guarantee is there for kwid (metal used in Nissan plant KR )

3. Crash test is failed because there were no luxury safety options in 2016 version. its a budget car if we look at correctly, it is ridiculous to see recalling 3.37 mil cars because of faulty air bag is not seen as a safety issue.

4.No car can be driven if you dont maintain it properly. Now most cabs are altos, marutis and nanos in Sri Lanka. They have mileage over 200,000 and they are doing pretty fine. You see that argument is not valid.

5. And are there any dashboards made from fully metal and diamonds? they are over 50% plastic in every car.

6. about paints and fractures, that is applicable for any vehicle regardless of the make. If you scratch your car pretty and run without fixing there is a high possibility of happening that. Kwid has everything except under coat and you can get it done if you are paranoid or living near or in a coastal area.

7. again I have to say no car is perfect. go for a more reliable, low cost maintaining and the one that fit your budget and requirement.

susuki budget cars have been there In SL more than 10 years and they are doing pretty fine + they have their own market.

"so again affordability is not equal to shit"

some folk's mind set is pretty novice. but the problem here is thinking that they know everything

quite correct..!

 

[shan4djfun]

lankawa wage ratawala minis jeevithayaka thiyana watinakama kohomath aduiy. (for ex. samahara surgery,scan, test etc. walata masa ganan awrudu ganan polime inna wenawa) loke diunu ratawal ekka baluwahama, eka nisa dunu ratawala wahana walata thiyana safty standerd apita adala nane..!

we are to blame, because we sent them to the parliament

 

[Friendly HACKER]

Pattaine... low cost & good quality

 

[Hyaenidae]

My friend no car is perfect, you accepted that

No car is safe on the road, no car has 100% safety

Is this even a valid argument? Who said japanese cars are 100% safe?
Going by this logic cars having safety features and rigid bodyframes + Reinforced bodyshells is useless because they are not 100% safe.

As I said before, driving a car with 0 safty rating and an unstable bodyshell is like riding a motorcycle without an helmet.

1. kwid gets 2 yr / 50000km warranty. Engine is fine in theses models it is pathetic to think anything is immortal

I don't know why you're so extreme.

When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles are safer than their Indian counterparts, your counter-argument is "No car is 100% safe!"

When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles last longer than their Indian counterparts your counter-argument is "No car is immortal!"

And you proudly say you have successfully defended the KWID from "false propaganda" made by the "KWID haters".

Corrosion free guarantee is there for kwid (metal used in Nissan plant KR )

It's too early to say if the KWIDs' metal quality and corrosion prevention measures are adequate in real-world conditions. Let's give it some time and see.

Crash is failed because there were no luxury safety options in 2016 version. its a budget car if we look at correctly, it is ridiculous to see recalling 3.37 mil cars because of faulty air bag is not seen as a safety issue.

Seriously, having a stable bodyshell has become a "luxury option" nowadays huh? KWID failed the crash test and scored 0 points even if it had an AirBag installed because of the sub-par quality of the metal used by Renault to build the bodyshell.

I don't quite follow the last sentence (in bold) can you please elaborate?

No car can be driven if you dont maintain it properly. Now most cabs are altos, marutis and nanos in Sri Lanka. They have mileage over 200,000 and they are doing pretty fine. You see that argument is not valid.

Show me a Maruti in pristine condition with 200k mileage on ikman and I'll believe you.

And are there any dashboards made from fully metal and diamonds? they are over 50% plastic in every car.

He says indian dashboards are made from cheap plastics to reduce cost, and I agree with him after seeing Japanese cars older than 15 years having better dashboards than the 2016 KWID. But I agree expecting premium quality plastics in an indian budget car is fruitless.

about paints and fractures, that is applicable for any vehicle regardless of the make. If you scratch your car pretty and run without fixing there is a high possibility of happening that. Kwid has everything except under coat and you can get it done if you are paranoid or living near or in a coastal area.

So am I to believe a manufacturer using sub-par quality metal for the bodyshell of the car used better quality metal on vehicle's outer body?
Reliablility of the KWID's outer metal parts is yet to be proven under real-world conditions because there are no KWIDs more than a year old.

Maruti failed in this regard. Let's see how Renault does.

susuki budget cars have been there In SL more than 10 years and they are doing pretty fine + they have their own market.

I'm yet to see a 5-year Maruti without a rust spot on its exhaust. That's the reason for me saying Maruti failed in rust-protection of their cars. It's too early to say how the renault would cope.

 

[CustomerSupport]

1. Appo ban engine eke noise eka.
2. Engine bay eka paint karaganne gedara genath da?

 

[shan4djfun]

Is this even a valid argument? Who said japanese cars are 100% safe?
Going by this logic cars having safety features and rigid bodyframes + Reinforced bodyshells is useless because they are not 100% safe.

As I said before, driving a car with 0 safty rating and an unstable bodyshell is like riding a motorcycle without an helmet.

exactly. no car is 100% safe. And accidents can happen to all cars regardless of the make. 0 or 5, I saw phetti has posted fully crushed jap cars in other thread. having all safety in a car can save your life sometimes, there is no argument there, it doesn't mean that you are going to die driving a 0 rating car.

I don't know why you're so extreme.

When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles are safer than their Indian counterparts, your counter-argument is "No car is 100% safe!"

am I extreme? when I get the safety for budget car, you are the one who keeps saying Japanese cars are safer than indian cars. You see this has not relevanent here. Not all indian cars are 0 safety and certainly driving a kwid will not kill you, unless its a massive accident where a critical one people die regardless of the make of the car you drive

you understand what i'm saying right?

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When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles last longer than their Indian counterparts your counter-argument is "No car is immortal!"
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what is the relevance of that argument here to kwid?? kwid is brand new out of the box, it doesn't rust quickly,

someday its going to rust and turn to dust like any other car in the world regardless of the make

do you udnerstand?? its not a counter argument, its how the nature is

And you proudly say you have successfully defended the KWID from "false propaganda" made by the "KWID haters".

I wouldn't go in to someones vehicle thread and keep trying to trash-talking their car unless I really hate that vehicle or the person.

which one do you hate the most? me or the car?

even though I hate a particular vehicle I'm pretty sure I will be sane enough not to waste my time

The thread you posted in your reply is the perfect place for you do go and post those replies. Don't you think?

It's too early to say if the KWIDs' metal quality and corrosion prevention measures are adequate in real-world conditions. Let's give it some time and see.

exactly. the kwid is brand new to the world, lets review again in 2+ years

Seriously, having a stable bodyshell has become a "luxury option" nowadays huh? KWID failed the crash test and scored 0 points even if it had an AirBag installed because of the sub-par quality of the metal used by Renault to build the bodyshell.

you cant stop a vehicle from crashing using a airbag, air bags are for safety of the people. KWID has one, it will get 4 in the future. Airbag is a must have thing for the front at least. Its sad to see that only driver side air bag is available in kwid. Anyway I hope not to crash

I don't quite follow the last sentence (in bold) can you please elaborate?

The toyota recalling 3.37mil cars because of faulty airbags? I hope you read that. So Japanese vehicle do have safety faults and that is a manufacturer fault. what if anyone met with an accident even before toyota found out about this error??? who is going to pay for their lives???

there are many ways to look at things, your way is always looking downward. just like the typical toyota mind set.

Show me a Maruti in pristine condition with 200k mileage on ikman and I'll believe you.

this should be more than 200000km, but its not specified

http://riyasewana.com/buy/suzuki-maruti-800-sale-colombo-450973

most of these cars should be more than 200000km

http://riyasewana.com/search.php?vtype=Car&make=Suzuki&model=maruti

http://ikman.lk/en/ad/maruti-alto-2006-for-sale-colombo-538

He says indian dashboards are made from cheap plastics to reduce cost, and I agree with him after seeing Japanese cars older than 15 years having better dashboards than the 2016 KWID. But I agree expecting premium quality plastics in an indian budget car is fruitless.

plastic is plastic. If the dash is plastic there is nothing premium about it, ifyou like the dash of a certain car why would you consider someone else likes and dislikes

So am I to believe a manufacturer using sub-par quality metal for the bodyshell of the car used better quality metal on vehicle's outer body?
Reliablility of the KWID's outer metal parts is yet to be proven under real-world conditions because there are no KWIDs more than a year old.

Maruti failed in this regard. Let's see how Renault does.

What are you talking about. Renault is made in the Nissan Factory using the same metal used by cars like Dastun, check wiki

Maruti didn't fail, susuki had sold outstanding number of those cars in Sri Lanka. I dont know the numbers though. now altos are every where. regardless of the vehicle make we see large amout of specific vehicles on the road time to time. now is the era of alto, may be kwid in the future

nano's / altos are the 90% of cabs in Sri Lanka. but i'm not here to discuss those

I'm yet to see a 5-year Maruti without a rust spot on its exhaust. That's the reason for me saying Maruti failed in rust-protection of their cars. It's too early to say how the renault would cope.

I'm not pretty sure, every car rust. I dont know about other indian cars much. No car is perfect, some japanese cars can have rust spots if they are not well taken care of. But they are ruling the people who wants budget cars

 

[shan4djfun]

1. Appo ban engine eke noise eka.

not that bad, i'll review it as well

2. Engine bay eka paint karaganne gedara genath da?[/SIZE]

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what are you talking about?

 

[Hyaenidae]

exactly. no car is 100% safe. And accidents can happen to all cars regardless of the make. 0 or 5, I saw phetti has posted fully crushed jap cars in other thread. having all safety in a car can save your life sometimes, there is no argument there, it doesn't mean that you are going to die driving a 0 rating car.



am I extreme? when I get the safety for budget car, you are the one who keeps saying Japanese cars are safer than indian cars. You see this has not relevanent here. Not all indian cars are 0 safety and certainly driving a kwid will not kill you, unless its a massive accident where a critical one people die regardless of the make of the car you drive

you understand what i'm saying right?

When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles last longer than their Indian counterparts your counter-argument is "No car is immortal!"

what is the relevance of that argument here to kwid?? kwid is brand new out of the box, it doesn't rust quickly,

someday its going to rust and turn to dust like any other car in the world regardless of the make

do you udnerstand?? its not a counter argument, its how the nature is



I wouldn't go in to someones vehicle thread and keep trying to trash-talking their car unless I really hate that vehicle or the person.

which one do you hate the most? me or the car?

even though I hate a particular vehicle I'm pretty sure I will be sane enough not to waste my time

The thread you posted in your reply is the perfect place for you do go and post those replies. Don't you think?




exactly. the kwid is brand new to the world, lets review again in 2+ years





you cant stop a vehicle from crashing using a airbag, air bags are for safety of the people. KWID has one, it will get 4 in the future. Airbag is a must have thing for the front at least. Its sad to see that only driver side air bag is available in kwid. Anyway I hope not to crash



The toyota recalling 3.37mil cars because of faulty airbags? I hope you read that. So Japanese vehicle do have safety faults and that is a manufacturer fault. what if anyone met with an accident even before toyota found out about this error??? who is going to pay for their lives???

there are many ways to look at things, your way is always looking downward. just like the typical toyota mind set.







this should be more than 200000km, but its not specified

http://riyasewana.com/buy/suzuki-maruti-800-sale-colombo-450973

most of these cars should be more than 200000km

http://riyasewana.com/search.php?vtype=Car&make=Suzuki&model=maruti

http://ikman.lk/en/ad/maruti-alto-2006-for-sale-colombo-538






plastic is plastic. If the dash is plastic there is nothing premium about it, ifyou like the dash of a certain car why would you consider someone else likes and dislikes

So am I to believe a manufacturer using sub-par quality metal for the bodyshell of the car used better quality metal on vehicle's outer body?
Reliablility of the KWID's outer metal parts is yet to be proven under real-world conditions because there are no KWIDs more than a year old.

Maruti failed in this regard. Let's see how Renault does.[/quote


What are you talking about. Renault is made in the Nissan Factory using the same metal used by cars like Dastun, check wiki

Maruti didn't fail, susuki had sold outstanding number of those cars in Sri Lanka. I dont know the numbers though. now altos are every where. regardless of the vehicle make we see large amout of specific vehicles on the road time to time. now is the era of alto, may be kwid in the future

nano's / altos are the 90% of cabs in Sri Lanka. but i'm not here to discuss those





I'm not pretty sure, every car rust. I dont know about other indian cars much. No car is perfect, some japanese cars can have rust spots if they are not well taken care of. But they are ruling the people who wants budget cars

not that bad, i'll review it as well

what are you talking about? [/QUOTE]
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You are a rank amateur when it comes to html and vehicles

Seriously. How am I supposed to make out anything from that jumbled mess of words you have posted

 

[dsit86]

Epic reply to a question on whether to buy a Renault Kwid on another forum

http://forum.autolanka.com/topic/17885-maruti-alto-or-renault-kwid/?do=findComment&comment=294660

 

[shan4djfun]

Epic reply to a question on whether to buy a Renault Kwid on another forum

http://forum.autolanka.com/topic/17885-maruti-alto-or-renault-kwid/?do=findComment&comment=294660

Omg! Im famouse

 

[shan4djfun]

You are a rank amateur when it comes to html and vehicles

Seriously. How am I supposed to make out anything from that jumbled mess of words you have posted

You are the amateur here. If you know HTML you should know how to format manually.I manually added those tags. Please be my guest and use your time to reply. Since you love wasting time in my threads. I expect a little more than that

 

[kingcapton]

Is this even a valid argument? Who said japanese cars are 100% safe?
Going by this logic cars having safety features and rigid bodyframes + Reinforced bodyshells is useless because they are not 100% safe.

As I said before, driving a car with 0 safty rating and an unstable bodyshell is like riding a motorcycle without an helmet.



I don't know why you're so extreme.

When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles are safer than their Indian counterparts, your counter-argument is "No car is 100% safe!"

When someone try to explain you the proven fact that Japanese vehicles last longer than their Indian counterparts your counter-argument is "No car is immortal!"

And you proudly say you have successfully defended the KWID from "false propaganda" made by the "KWID haters".






It's too early to say if the KWIDs' metal quality and corrosion prevention measures are adequate in real-world conditions. Let's give it some time and see.




Seriously, having a stable bodyshell has become a "luxury option" nowadays huh? KWID failed the crash test and scored 0 points even if it had an AirBag installed because of the sub-par quality of the metal used by Renault to build the bodyshell.

I don't quite follow the last sentence (in bold) can you please elaborate?




Show me a Maruti in pristine condition with 200k mileage on ikman and I'll believe you.



He says indian dashboards are made from cheap plastics to reduce cost, and I agree with him after seeing Japanese cars older than 15 years having better dashboards than the 2016 KWID. But I agree expecting premium quality plastics in an indian budget car is fruitless.




So am I to believe a manufacturer using sub-par quality metal for the bodyshell of the car used better quality metal on vehicle's outer body?
Reliablility of the KWID's outer metal parts is yet to be proven under real-world conditions because there are no KWIDs more than a year old.

Maruti failed in this regard. Let's see how Renault does.



I'm yet to see a 5-year Maruti without a rust spot on its exhaust. That's the reason for me saying Maruti failed in rust-protection of their cars. It's too early to say how the renault would cope.

 

[shan4djfun]

already given the answer it deserves

 

[kingcapton]

we are to blame, because we sent them to the parliament

Rate janathawata sapekshawa thamai parliament memberslath ithing.

 

[Hyaenidae]

Since you love wasting time in my threads.

Well I never wanted to waste time convincing you of anything, we're way past that point. And what's the use? It's not like you can send the KWID back and ask for a refund! all replies here are for the sake of the potential carbuyer who is reading this thread.

BTW thanks for editing your post. It's way less messy now.

no car is 100% safe. And accidents can happen to all cars regardless of the make. 0 or 5, I saw phetti has posted fully crushed jap cars in other thread. having all safety in a car can save your life sometimes, there is no argument there, it doesn't mean that you are going to die driving a 0 rating car.

You're not 100% protected against injuries or even death even if you wear a helmet and protective gear when you ride a motorcycle; however wearing protective gear and a helmet would save you from otherwise fatal injuries in case of an accident. Not wearing helmets or safety gear while riding a bicycle doesn't mean you're going to die in case of an accident but you'll wish you had worn a helmet and safety gear if you face an accident (that is, if you survive the accident)

This theory applies to any vehicle on the road. Driving a car with a compromised bodyshell which failed all the safety tests doesn't mean you're going to die driving it but why take the risk when you can buy a car with a reinforced bodyshell and packed with all the basic safety features which passed every safety test, for the same amount of money?

am I extreme? when I get the safety for budget car, you are the one who keeps saying Japanese cars are safer than indian cars. You see this has not relevanent here.

you understand what i'm saying right?

Japanese cars are relevant here because you can buy one with all the safety features for the budget of a KWID. Not a brand-new one though.

what is the relevance of that argument here to kwid?? kwid is brand new out of the box, it doesn't rust quickly

It's too early to comment on KWID's rust resistance.

I wouldn't go in to someones vehicle thread and keep trying to trash-talking their car unless I really hate that vehicle or the person.

I'm not trash-talking about the KWID, I'm describing it. Quote anywhere I've trash-talked about the KWID.

you cant stop a vehicle from crashing using a airbag, air bags are for safety of the people. KWID has one, it will get 4 in the future. Airbag is a must have thing for the front at least. Its sad to see that only driver side air bag is available in kwid. Anyway I hope not to crash

With its compromised bodyshell no amount of airbags will make the KWID safer. The KWID (III) which is equipped with an airbag scored 0 crash rating, just like the KWID (I) which isn't equipped with an airbag.

Nobody hopes to crash their vehicle, that doesn't make this world devoid of vehicle crashes does it?

The toyota recalling 3.37mil cars because of faulty airbags? I hope you read that. So Japanese vehicle do have safety faults and that is a manufacturer fault. what if anyone met with an accident even before toyota found out about this error??? who is going to pay for their lives???

Atleast Toyota found the issue themselves and took immediate action to resolve it. EURO NCAP safety tests found the KWID's bodyshell is unstable and the driver's side airbag is useless with a compromised bodyshell and informed Renault about it, the company promised to resolve that issue on next version of the KWID (IV). So what happens to people who bought the KWID (III)? who's going to pay for their lives? I don't see a recall by renault for KWID (III) cars.

there are many ways to look at things, your way is always looking downward. just like the typical toyota mind set.

Yes there are many ways to look at things, your way of looking at things is pretty idiotic and naive.

this should be more than 200000km, but its not specified
most of these cars should be more than 200000km

Guesswork doesn't count.

plastic is plastic. If the dash is plastic there is nothing premium about it

Your ignorance saddens me to no end

Engine bay eka paint karaganne gedara genath da?

what are you talking about?

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