Buddhist "Karma" is a a concept created to enforce the caste system?

[Fiona Dabare]

Unless i got a direct insight into past lives im not sure about samma ditti

Why don't try then?

 

[nppcheguevara]

OWA GANA KALPANA KARANNE NATHIWA HODATA HUKALA NIDAGANIN!

 

[Emios]

Why don't try then?

2 more years rahu mahadasa

 

[Fiona Dabare]

2 more years rahu mahadasa

Bro, I became an once returner in a Senasuru-Mahadasa period. Do you think you won't be able to attain Loukika-Jhanas due to its effects?

 

[Emios]

Bro, I became an once returner in a Senasuru-Mahadasa period. Do you think you won't be able to attain Loukika-Jhanas due to its effects?

There are antra dashas as well. In which senasuru antardasha you lost your limbs vs attained sowan.That would explain

 

[Fiona Dabare]

There are antra dashas as well. In which senasuru antardasha you lost your limbs vs attained sowan.That would explain

idk about astrology
if you want, try hard, you can

plus, I didn't lose a limb
it was just a fracture

 

[Emios]

idk about astrology
if you want, try hard, you can

plus, I didn't lose a limb
it was just a fracture

check which year from this

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/vimshottari-dasha-vedic-astrology-online-calculator

 

[Fiona Dabare]

check which year from this

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/vimshottari-dasha-vedic-astrology-online-calculator

idk the exact time I was born
I asked my mom once but she didn't say it.

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She thinks I'm asking it for a marriage proposal
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[kingcapton]

Something said by someone in good faith can be misinterpreted by another person or group, and that can result in karma for the person who said it, so I have little faith in religious views.

 

[jennt]

But this looks sounds the perfect reason for the ruling class (situwaru, kings etc) to explain why they become the ruling class in the first place back in Buddha's time

Karmic concept was around even before Gauthama was born. What the Buddha said was that we can't comprehend how it works. There's a metaphor; ඇට පැලකරහම ගහක් හැදිලා මල් එනවා. ඒත් මෙන්න මේ අත්තේ මෙන්න මෙතන මලක් එයි කියලා කියන්න බැහැ..

TFS

Buddhism is talking about improving your inner peace. going after materialistic stuff or getting rich is not promoted in Buddhism..

Most of those things coming from Hinduism..

then I don't want that buddhism. I want success in all areas in my life

How can we truly know anything?
Knowing (නිත්ය දැනගැනීම) is ignorance (අවිද්‍යාව)

I have this perception that most of the things are predetermined. I am dwelling between the idea that is 100% determined or partially.
but I know some things are determined from my own experience.

Kalyana Mitra means someone who has attained Magga-Phala. Can be a monk or a layperson as well.

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yep, all thease questions originate from Wrong-View.

there are no proper Magga-Phala people around me that I can get a proper guidance or ask question about life.
there was one muslim lady who helped me immensely. but she left after my circumstances became little
bit better thinking I can handle things on my own.

1. The outcome is already decided.
"Therefore, rise up and win glory! Conquer your enemies and enjoy a prosperous kingdom. They have already been killed by Me. You are only an instrument."

2. God dwells in all hearts and controls them.
"The Supreme Lord lives in the hearts of all beings, O Arjuna, and makes them revolve, as if mounted on a machine, by His divine power."

3. Beings act according to their nature.
"Even the wise act according to their nature. All living beings follow their own nature. What can repression achieve?"

4. Your nature will force you to act.
"If you say, ‘I will not act,’ out of delusion — your nature will still compel you to act. You are bound by it."

5. The soul is not the real doer.
"The Self does not create actions or their results. Nature alone acts."

6. Everything proceeds from God.
"I am the origin of all things. Everything emanates from Me."

7. Nobody is free from nature.
"There is no being, whether on earth or among the gods, that is free from the three qualities of nature."

8. Material nature acts under divine supervision.
"Material nature, under My supervision, brings forth all beings — both moving and non-moving."

9. The cause of rebirth is attachment to nature.
"The soul experiences the qualities of nature and becomes bound by attachment, which leads to rebirth in good or bad circumstances."

10. The gunas alone are the doers.
"When a person sees that it is only the qualities of nature that act, and knows the Self to be beyond them, they attain liberation."

11. Even choosing is part of the divine plan.
"I have explained the most secret knowledge. Reflect on it fully — and then act as you are inclined."

12. No one can truly renounce action.
"No embodied being can give up all action completely. But one who gives up attachment to results is truly renounced."

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Action is needed but the result is in his hand(god) in other words result was never yours
------ Post added on Jun 30, 2025 at 4:21 PM

yep atleast partially determined I say

Being born rich and.. happens due to Ignorance.

how come? care to elaborate plz?

අට්ට කතාවල උදාහරන තියනවා දුප්පත් පවුලක, පින්වත් උන් ඉපදිලා සැප ලබපුවා, කප් රුකක් පහල වුන කතාවක්,
පෝසත් පවුලක පවුකාරයො ඉපදිලා කැදත් නැතිවුන ඒවත්. අන්තිමට ගමුනුත් ඌව එලවනවා.
සමහර උන් පවුලේ එකට,නෑදෑයො වෙලා ඉපදුනේ හුදෙක්ම වෛරයක් වගේ වෙන කර්මයක් ගෙවන්න තියන නිසා. එතකොට දේපලක් කුලයක් උරුමවීම කරපු පිනක් නෙමෙයි.

maybe true.

TFS

check which year from this

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/vimshottari-dasha-vedic-astrology-online-calculator

venus/sun was good
venus/moon was excellent - almost everything was going well except my father leaving us(which happened for our own good I think)
venus mars - nor good or bad
venus rahu - mixed. good and bad both. few girls got addicted to me
venus/jupyter - good
venus / saturn was worst of all
venus/mercury - good
venus ketu period - again worst - but at the ending period it got better



@Emios do you think remedies work?

there was one aunty from mathara who told that 2018-2025
is the worst period of my life due 2 erashtaka

 

[Fiona Dabare]

I have this perception that most of the things are predetermined. I am dwelling between the idea that is 100% determined or partially.
but I know some things are determined from my own experience.

it is called vichikichcha and it arises due to sakkaya-ditti.

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there are no proper Magga-Phala people around me that I can get a proper guidance or ask question about life.

all questions originate from same source, wrong-view

------ Post added on Jul 1, 2025 at 11:49 AM

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how come? care to elaborate plz?

ඉපදීමක් ගැන කතා කරන්නත් *උබ* ඉපදෙන්න ඕනේ. ඉපදෙද්දි, *ඉපදීමක්* වත් *පොහොසත්* *කුල* කතා වත් උබ දන්නැහැනේ.

උබ ඉපදෙන්නේ, පන්ච උපාදානස්කන්ධය එක්ක ඒ ඒ ආයතනයන්ගෙන් අරමුනු ගෙන ඒ ඒ මොහොතේදී, අරමුනේ යථා ස්වභාවය නොදැක අවිද්‍යාවෙන් අරමුන, නිත්යව දැනගෙන, නිත්ය දැනගැනීමක් පටිච්ච වීම තුල තමයි.

අරමුනක් නිත්යව දැනගන්නේ/ දැනෙන්නේ, දැනෙන/ දැනගන්න කෙනෙක් ඉන්න නිසා. දැනෙන/ දැනගන්න කෙනෙක් ඉන්න නිසා තමයි නිත්ය දැනීමක්/ දැනගැනීමක් පවතින්නේ. හේතු-ඵල ව එකක් නිසා එකක් එකිනෙක බැදී පවතිනවා.

නිත්ය දැනුම තමයි සක්කාය දිට්ටිය. නිත්යව දැනගෙන, දැනගෙන හිතලා නැත්තම් චේතනා පහල කරලා තමයි එක එක දෘස්ටි සකස් කර ගන්නේ. ඒකට තමයි මිත්යා-දෘස්ටිය කියන්නේ. (අරක මෙහෙම වෙනවා, මේක අරහෙම වෙනවා, පින් කරහම දිව්යලෝකේ යනවා, මැරුනහම ඉපදෙනවා, මැරුනහම ඉපදෙන්නැහැ..)

පන්චඋපාදානස්කන්ධය තමයි ලෝකය. ඉපදීම, පොහොසත්, කුල.. ඔක්කොම අරමුනක් නිත්යව දැනගෙන, උපාදානය වීමෙන් හදාගත්ත දෘස්ටි ටිකක්.
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[incest_cult]

Poor people / people born "low-caste" deserve to be poor and ridiculed because they are bad (or were bad in a past life)

Rich people / people born "high-caste" deserve to be rich and venerated because they're good (or were good in a past life)

You should think the other way around.
Think a rich one would afraid to do any bad because he would think bad karma will make him poor this life or afterlife.

Same for poor he would encouraged to fo good to make his life better and become richer in the afterlife.

This does make sense bcos in buddhas time it was largely based on caste, but more attract to the buddha's dhamma were the poor bcos they felt that there is far more richer things can be obtained and it was nirvana which even richest cannot buy this but anyone with will and power to follow the path.

 

[Hyaenidae]

You should think the other way around.
Think a rich one would afraid to do any bad because he would think bad karma will make him poor this life or afterlife.

Same for poor he would encouraged to fo good to make his life better and become richer in the afterlife.

This does make sense bcos in buddhas time it was largely based on caste, but more attract to the buddha's dhamma were the poor bcos they felt that there is far more richer things can be obtained and it was nirvana which even richest cannot buy this but anyone with will and power to follow the path.

But the clergy get to define what earns you "good karma" and what earns you "bad karma" ne. Sounds very manipulative and easily misinterpreted to influence the society and reinforce their authority - explaining and defending the hereditary caste system being one of those manipulations

 

[kaizoku_O]

Caste seen එක ගැන කතා කරනකොට මට අපේ නැන්ද කෙනෙක් කියපු කතාවක් මතක් උනා.
ඉස්සර මිනිස්සු කුලමල බලල තියෙන්නෙ ඒක ඒ මිනිස්සුන්ට low caste එකක් එක්ක සෙට් වෙන එකට තියන ලැජ්ජාව , ego එක , අවනම්බුව නිසාම නෙමේ කියන එක. ඒකත් එකක්. ඒත් තව most important දෙයක් කිවුව
ඒ ඒ caste වලට අදාළ වෙච්ච ඇවතුම් පැවතුම් ගති ලක්ෂණ පුරුදු තියනව කියන එක සහ ඒව නැති කරගන්න එක ගොඩක් අමාරු දෙයක් කියන එක. ඒව ජාන වලින්ම එනව කියල කිවුවෙ
Examples තියනව සමහර අම්මල තාත්තල එයාලගෙ දෙමව්පියන්ට හොරෙන් පැනල ඇවිල්ල කසාද බැදල ඊට පස්සෙ වෙන මිනිස්සු එක්ක ගිහින් ඊට පස්සෙ උන්ගෙ දරුවොත් ඒ විදිහටම කරන අවස්ථා.
ඒවගෙ සමහර පහළ ගති ලක්ශන ඉහල caste එක්ක ගළපගන්න බෑ සහ ජාන වලින් පරම්පරාවෙන් පරම්පරාවට යනව කියන එක.
ඒ නිසාම ඉස්සර මිනිස්සු ගොඩක් දුරට try කරල තියනව තමන්ගෙම caste එකක අය එක්ක සෙට් වෙන්න.
දැනටත් ගොඩක් අය එහෙමයි

මෙව මොනවද?
Can explain?

 

[RandomGuy]

Reddit has a karma system too

 

[incest_cult]

But the clergy get to define what earns you "good karma" and what earns you "bad karma" ne. Sounds very manipulative and easily misinterpreted to influence the society and reinforce their authority - explaining and defending the hereditary caste system being one of those manipulations

Still, your point of view is the problem. If you positively looked up to the problem, you would understand that someone is bot defined anything, all the good and bad were defined by nature. Think of a situation of how karma affects and try to think and understand why it defies the order of the nature.

 

[OverSyze]

Caste and shit is designed by ourselves bn

 

[Sr2665]

Buddha’s truth vs Buddhists’ beliefs

 

[nidarsha91]

 

[Al Baik]

Caste seen එක ගැන කතා කරනකොට මට අපේ නැන්ද කෙනෙක් කියපු කතාවක් මතක් උනා.
ඉස්සර මිනිස්සු කුලමල බලල තියෙන්නෙ ඒක ඒ මිනිස්සුන්ට low caste එකක් එක්ක සෙට් වෙන එකට තියන ලැජ්ජාව , ego එක , අවනම්බුව නිසාම නෙමේ කියන එක. ඒකත් එකක්. ඒත් තව most important දෙයක් කිවුව
ඒ ඒ caste වලට අදාළ වෙච්ච ඇවතුම් පැවතුම් ගති ලක්ෂණ පුරුදු තියනව කියන එක සහ ඒව නැති කරගන්න එක ගොඩක් අමාරු දෙයක් කියන එක. ඒව ජාන වලින්ම එනව කියල කිවුවෙ
Examples තියනව සමහර අම්මල තාත්තල එයාලගෙ දෙමව්පියන්ට හොරෙන් පැනල ඇවිල්ල කසාද බැදල ඊට පස්සෙ වෙන මිනිස්සු එක්ක ගිහින් ඊට පස්සෙ උන්ගෙ දරුවොත් ඒ විදිහටම කරන අවස්ථා.
ඒවගෙ සමහර පහළ ගති ලක්ශන ඉහල caste එක්ක ගළපගන්න බෑ සහ ජාන වලින් පරම්පරාවෙන් පරම්පරාවට යනව කියන එක.
ඒ නිසාම ඉස්සර මිනිස්සු ගොඩක් දුරට try කරල තියනව තමන්ගෙම caste එකක අය එක්ක සෙට් වෙන්න.
දැනටත් ගොඩක් අය එහෙමයි

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