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[ek_rosh]

Yes but the eyebase,are you refrering to this physical eye or something else?,how does it apply to vedana? Lets say body as the base?

eye-base = chakku pasada rupa

same goes to vedana..

I mean, ofc we should train and must *listen to the dhamma* as well to satisfy all 4 requirements.

what about those villages then?

 

[Blair Solari]

My point is, we can't exclude one major factor and expect a mere practice will lead us to the enlightenment.

what about those villages then?

They might have been skilled enough to attain stream-entry.

 

[Emios]

eye-base = chakku pasada rupa

same goes to vedana..

ok,then which point is taken as panchaskanda is it the eye?

 

[ek_rosh]

My point is, we can't exclude one major factor and expect a mere practice will lead us to the enlightenment.

what do you exclude?

They might have been skilled enough to attain stream-entry.

aha...can we count on us the same or should we go along traditional less risky way?

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ok,then which point is taken as panchaskanda is it the eye?

you tell me, you are the one talking about datu levels of panchaskandas
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[Emios]

you tell me, you are the one talking about datu levels of panchaskandas
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Yes but it’s again eye and external rupa considered as panchaskada right.but i have a question regarding birth of these.

 

[ek_rosh]

Yes but it’s again eye and external rupa considered as panchaskada right

you sure about that? where does budda say so?

 

[Emios]

you sure about that? where does budda say so?

No i was taking only rupa,in your context why did budda say rupam ko maro and rupaya kerehei kalakire?

 

[ek_rosh]

No i was taking only rupa,in your context why did budda say rupam ko maro and rupaya kerehei kalakire?

in rupam ko maro is he referring rupa or rupa skandha?

 

[Emios]

in rupam ko maro is he referring rupa or rupa skandha?

That’s what I'm asking also Rupaya kerehi kalakirei means which rupa? Panchaskanda rupa or upadanaskada rupa? If its mara then which rupa is mara. Is panchaskanda is not a problem which is mara

 

[ek_rosh]

That’s what I'm asking also Rupaya kerehi kalakirei means which rupa? Panchaskanda rupa or upadanaskada rupa? If its mara then which rupa is mara. Is panchaskanda is not a problem which is mara

forget it about upadhanaskandas...first, is he referring rupa or rupaskandas as maro?

 

[Emios]

forget it about upadhanaskandas...first, is he referring rupa or rupaskandas as maro?

Rupa, why do you take this skandas? Both are reffered to as skandas no

 

[ek_rosh]

Rupa, why do you take this skandas? Both are reffered to as skandas no

are they referred the same? why used skanda term without using just rupa then?

 

[Emios]

are they referred the same? why used skanda term without using just rupa then?

I don’t get what you say, to ease so there is panchaskada external rupa? Am i correct and clinging it to is upadana rupa? So at which rupaya kerehi kalakirei? if panchaskanda and upadanaskada are same.i don’t get it

 

[ek_rosh]

I don’t get what you say, to ease so there is panchaskada external rupa? Am i correct and clinging it to is upadana rupa? So at which rupaya kerehi kalakirei? if panchaskanda and upadanaskada are same.i don’t get it

im asking u a simple question. Is the rupa and rupaskanda same? if it is same why rupa is called rupaskanda?

 

[dilann]

නැති දෙයක් ගැන උබල තාම කියවනවද ?

 

[Emios]

im asking u a simple question. Is the rupa and rupaskanda same? if it is same why rupa is called rupaskanda?

Its a bundle in that context.its the same but rupa appers as a bundle

 

[ek_rosh]

Its a bundle in that context.its the same but rupa appers as a bundle

bundle of rupas called rupaskanda? which bundle?

 

[Emios]

bundle of rupas called rupaskanda? which bundle?

I don’t get what you mean, i mean rupa appers as a result of a bundle

 

[ek_rosh]

I don’t get what you mean, i mean rupa appers as a result of a bundle

Its a bundle in that context.its the same but rupa appers as a bundle

???

 

[Emios]

???

I don’t get the context you ask,because we taking different views on panchaskanda.can you simplify what you mean.
To what rupa the kalakirkma refers to