Who said Piracy is Theft !!!

latekid

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you'll care when it comes back to you either legally or when someone steals from you.


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its human nature.yes if some one steal from me..hmmm...il take care about him.but if i want something.i try ma best to get it free.in srilanka legal qs regarding these matters are in primary stage,not even primary.when it comes to situations you are talking we may give up and may try opensource.but untill then we have to admit we steal.:yes:
 
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you'll care when it happens to you.
Even now we're seeing it, even in EK. People coming in saying X stole my siggy, etc.
That's piracy as well.

It is bad when someone steals somebody's hard work. But cant they make some thing that will be futile if copied? like an artist's talent the guy can sell his CDs enough for a living ...and ppl are not that bad even those crazy ass pirate's sometimes go buy records - just to support the artist. But every problem starts when they want every single human in the world is needed to buy a SEPARATE copy..thats insane!
like M$ if i brought an M$ product i cant share it with a friend :P see the nature even doesnt go that way u can get an apple from a tree and share it ...no big deal, but what if the apple tree was like M$...separate apple for everyone! hilarious that isn't gonna work just because it isn't natural.
 

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    It is bad when someone steals somebody's hard work. But cant they make some thing that will be futile if copied? like an artist's talent the guy can sell his CDs enough for a living ...and ppl are not that bad even those crazy ass pirate's sometimes go buy records - just to support the artist. But every problem starts when they want every single human in the world is needed to buy a SEPARATE copy..thats insane!
    like M$ if i brought an M$ product i cant share it with a friend :P see the nature even doesnt go that way u can get an apple from a tree and share it ...no big deal, but what if the apple tree was like M$...separate apple for everyone! hilarious that isn't gonna work just because it isn't natural.
    By your analogy, that talented guy wont be able to sell more than 1 cd as the guy who buys it will start a chain reaction by giving copies to his friends.
    Also even nature doesnt give apples for free. If you take the apple from that tree, you have to tend for that tree in return. That's the transaction. What you're saying is that everyone should take the apple without tending for the tree. Pretty soon, the tree will wither and die and no more apples to anyone.
    You know piracy is theft and thats wrong. You're just arguing to hide your own shame in the knowledge that you are a thief.
     

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    By your analogy, that talented guy wont be able to sell more than 1 cd as the guy who buys it will start a chain reaction by giving copies to his friends.
    Also even nature doesnt give apples for free. If you take the apple from that tree, you have to tend for that tree in return. That's the transaction. What you're saying is that everyone should take the apple without tending for the tree. Pretty soon, the tree will wither and die and no more apples to anyone.
    You know piracy is theft and thats wrong. You're just arguing to hide your own shame in the knowledge that you are a thief.

    Hey :P
    i just occasionally download a game and at the point im not sure what to download ...and no body tends to the trees in forests does an animal pay off to the tree? does a lion pay off to the animal group that it just killed one animal from? no its never done in natural world. may be its theft but all are in it its the way of the world humans are part of it too.
    PS: And that one CD thing is not gonna happen ever:P, piracy exists even now but people just dont share that much to cause a huge chain reaction ..these things dont have theories they just happen companies have to live with it :P not fight it, fighting is lame coz see TPB it just came up from the ashes and all of the millions spent are in vain! ...just live life man its not totally 100% fair so who cares!
    And again the natures system is "donation"...you are a FOSS person right so you might know it ...its all about gratitude and live and let live NOT about doing some lil thing and CHARGING money for it!
     
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    latekid

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    yeah man. How the devil they ban TPB. They don't host any illegal thing. They just give a links to that ppl who got those files. What if we google a cracked software, They just give lot of links to us. Then how google survive ???:dull::oo::confused:


    :yes::yes:you are 100% correct.but there's nothing we can do.:(
     

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    Hey :P
    i just occasionally download a game and at the point im not sure what to download ...and no body tends to the trees in forests does an animal pay off to the tree? does a lion pay off to the animal group that it just killed one animal from? no its never done in natural world.
    Wrong. In nature there is always natural equilibrium. If not poluted by humans, natural eco systems are always self sustained. We'll be going way off topic to explain just how that lion pays back.
    may be its theft but all are in it its the way of the world humans are part of it too.
    PS: And that one CD thing is not gonna happen ever:P, piracy exists even now but people just dont share that much to cause a huge chain reaction ..these things dont have theories they just happen companies have to live with it :P not fight it, fighting is lame coz see TPB it just came up from the ashes and all of the millions spent are in vain!
    TBP's cause is far difference from you and the rest here who says its ok to steal. Dont drag TBP in to this.

    ...just live life man its not totally 100% fair so who cares!
    like I said before, you'll care when it happens to you.
     

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    And again the natures system is "donation"...you are a FOSS person right so you might know it ...its all about gratitude and live and let live NOT about doing some lil thing and CHARGING money for it!
    Dont try to play with words that you know nothing about.
    FOSS by definition is distributed for free. There's no piracy involved there.
    Tell the singer who's making a living from his songs to live on gratitude alone and see if you can escape without loosing any teeth.
     

    madurax86

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    Hey :P
    i just occasionally download a game and at the point im not sure what to download ...and no body tends to the trees in forests does an animal pay off to the tree? does a lion pay off to the animal group that it just killed one animal from? no its never done in natural world.
    Wrong. In nature there is always natural equilibrium. If not poluted by humans, natural eco systems are always self sustained. We'll be going way off topic to explain just how that lion pays back.

    TBP's cause is far difference from you and the rest here who says its ok to steal. Dont drag TBP in to this.


    like I said before, you'll care when it happens to you.

    Im not saying its ok to steal ..im saying its ok to share what you have thats all there's too it those companies will die trying to stop it, GNUtella is online still and filesharing sites will be there too no one will be able to stop it no big deal

    Lion controls the hunted animal group's population, seeders leechers pirates stealers, what ever you call 'em keep giants like MS becoming even bigger :P if bill gates is richer than he is now, he;d fund more and invest more to make his company larger, that wont be good for the small companies ...im not saying pirating is good im saying its nature no need to fight it get what you want from it once in a while just dont be a hardcore thief -- the one that doesnt give anything to the society one like that will break the equilibrium :P
     

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    Dont try to play with words that you know nothing about.
    FOSS by definition is distributed for free. There's no piracy involved there.
    Tell the singer who's making a living from his songs to live on gratitude alone and see if you can escape without loosing any teeth.

    Didnt use FOSS as a "definition" used it as a noun "FOSS person" -- a custom noun as in "one who knows the basic concepts of sharing and free software" if you are not one its ok :P

    Missed to a part of sentence again..."its all about gratitude and live .. " ....can YOU see the AND??
    AND means that both conditions happen at once!

    conditions,(in that phrase)
    1. give gratitude
    2. live and let the artist live because he has made something useful

    BOTH are needed to happen NOT just one ...so using "live on gratitude alone" ...IS NOT WHAT I;ve said, dont get carried away!
     
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    kosandpol

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    Lion controls the hunted animal group's population, seeders leechers pirates stealers, what ever you call 'em keep giants like MS becoming even bigger :P if bill gates is richer than he is now, he;d fund more and invest more to make his company larger, that wont be good for the small companies ...im not saying pirating is good im saying its nature no need to fight it get what you want from it once in a while just dont be a hardcore thief -- the one that doesnt give anything to the society one like that will break the equilibrium :P
    And what controls the lion, seeders, leachers, and stealers ? you're only looking at one side of it. to maintain equilibrium the other part has to be balanced out as well.
     

    madurax86

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    we can see just how much control you have when you're openly condoning stealing :P

    Who cares man they have brains ...decision is up to them ..im just balancing this out what im saying is
    both ends are wrong just because its not nature...and its not good to fight those who are trying to go into the nature's system.

    If u pay MS for their stuff thats wrong too for a country like SL the price is way over! same goes with games and other stuff

    If you keep on stealing everything thats not gonna work either :P