Do You Believe Evolution is True ? (Answer some Questions))

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do you believe in evolution monocock?
 

Wal Bada

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  • "Evolution" in this context is the idea that natural, undirected processes are sufficient to account for the existence of all natural things.

    The very definition is WRONG.

    Wikipedia says like this.


    So your question based on a wrong definition is WRONG

    The rule is - Garbage In Garbage Out

    When your question is rubbish, you tend to get rubbish answers.
     

    Wal Bada

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  • To answer other Garbage with short answers.

    Big bang is not the only theory to explain the expansion of universe. There is a cyclical universe theory as well.

    How do you prove that if the mass of the electron has doubled the universe would crash?

    To say that the chaos of the big bang has transformed itself into the human brain with its 120 trillion connections is a clear violation of the Second Law.
    Prove it is a violation.

    Life from dead chemicals?
    - Heard of prions?

    Complex DNA and RNA by chance?
    DNA and RNA mutations are also controlled by God. So the deformed babies are due to the action of God. He's supposed to be correct all the time isn't it?
     

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    To answer other Garbage with short answers.

    Big bang is not the only theory to explain the expansion of universe. There is a cyclical universe theory as well.

    How do you prove that if the mass of the electron has doubled the universe would crash?

    Prove it is a violation.:lol:

    - Heard of prions? Its a protein isnt it ...so can you prove it has life?:lol:

    DNA and RNA mutations are also controlled by God. So the deformed babies are due to the action of God. He's supposed to be correct all the time isn't it?
    No he is no supposed to correct anything thats how he wants us to be.....In that context u might ask him not to make people die..:lol: since that too is not good.....:lol:
     

    3.5G

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    DNA and RNA mutations are also controlled by God. So the deformed babies are due to the action of God. He's supposed to be correct all the time isn't it?

    First
    calm down : :cool:

    Second
    I saw several time many people who don't believe in GOD @ last brings up GOD concept to prove there argument !!! bro what he said is

    DNA and RNA mutations are also controlled by God

    If you don't agree with this post please write ur refutation !!! supporting ur own arguments "this is how it happens this is da science behind this blah blah blah !!! "


    Only my suggestion ok !!!
     
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    Mr. Copy/Paste, why don't you site where you get your pseudo science from.

    And large fonts don't make you smarter, if anything highlights your ignorance.


    Something from nothing? :Woeful misunderstanding of physics: google hawking-penrose state or curvature singularity, and go back to school. While at it, also google Brane cosmology and Hawking-Hartle condition

    Physical laws an accident? :PPhysical Laws are not temporal, go back to school.

    Order from disorder? ::lol:You've answered your own question:lol:. If in doubt google snowflakes.

    Information from Randomness? Stochastic!=Randomness, lack of proper education becomes apparent.

    Life from dead chemicals? Stochastic + Computer Science 101. And please define 'life'

    Complex DNA and RNA by chance? Once again Stochastic process.

    Where are the transitional fossils?
    Meet your latest distant cousin, Ardi.
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    (Courtesy BBC)
    Could an intermediate even survive?
    Dear mr. copy/paste,
    Little do you know, there are on average 175 new mutation in your body that your parent did not have. But you're alive and copy/pasting.

    Reproduction without reproduction? Asexual reproduction homogenizes species, gene pool is too uniform one bad virus Wipes everyone out. Sexual reproduction mixes and matches genes resulting in a more diverse population increasing chances of survival. Remember Evoultion works at a genetic level. Once again A/L biology would have answered this question. Go to school kid, and remember to send your daughters & sisters too.

    Plants without photosynthesis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthesis#Evolution

    Aside: DNA

    Aside: Baseless Conjecture. If you really need convincing Google evolution of the EYE

    Complex things require intelligent design folks! Snow flakes, Evolutionary algorithms, stochastics, this argument of yours also signifies a complete and utter lack of imagination on the authors behalf.


    maxxa reply :lol::lol::lol: ryt in his arse :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    i love these threads, because these muslims help me to understand how stupid their religion is, harder they try to prove its best, easier to identify their dumbness:lol::lol::lol::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    lol......is there any thing more dumber than worshipping clay......?:lol:

    :):):) yeah two things,
    1.worshping a religion based on BUNCH OF LIES which is proven wrong over n over again, which is known as Islam (which is done by pathetic, idotic, illiterates like u )
    2. replying 2 a dumb terrorist's post (which is done by me):no::no::no::oo::oo::oo:
     

    Idi Amin

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    :):):) yeah two things,
    1.worshping a religion based on BUNCH OF LIES which is proven wrong over n over again, which is known as Islam (which is done by pathetic, idotic, illiterates like u )
    even buddha didnt tell you guys to worship clay...wot a dumb lot u guyz are.....:lol:
    2. replying 2 a dumb terrorist's post (which is done by me):no::no::no::oo::oo::oo:

    only illiterate dumbos like you will understand the crap uve wriyyen here:lol:
     
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    :P :P poor dumb terrorist cant understand a statue is a representation , Its better than worshiping a child abuser, terrorist n a Ganja addict, who killed thousands, to fullfill his ganja dreams !!! And go on, keep worshipin ur terrorist religion, it suits peoples like you, looser
     

    hafizsaad

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    :P :P poor dumb terrorist cant understand a statue is a representation , Its better than worshiping a child abuser, terrorist n a Ganja addict, who killed thousands, to fullfill his ganja dreams !!! And go on, keep worshipin ur terrorist religion, it suits peoples like you, looser

    OHHH, why are you so angry brother, there may be chance you are misleaded....



    criticism after seeing other fake & misleading (different background than present here & may be possible as muslim never claim that they can not commit sin) vedio is easy but search for reality is difficult.....

    islam is not only the religion of some fundametalist but is the world second big and best religion of the world....and its ratio of increase is more than any of other religion of world...
    you will wonder to see this increase is from your civilized society (america, europe etc)....what you say about them, thet all are mad people or ......

    brother you are misleaded very cruely.....


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    senator

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    Our Allah Answer your this Question in his Last Book Quran:

    Al-Ikhlas(112)

    In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful​

    Say (O Muhammad (SAW)): "He is Allâh, (the) One. (1)

    "Allâh-us-Samad (السيد الذي يصمد إليه في الحاجات) [Allâh the Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, (He neither eats nor drinks)]. (2)

    "He begets not, nor was He begotten;[] (3)

    "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." (4)


    So, your answer to the simple question is - 'our book says so'! Please give your own answer, not what some book says. Non-Muslims all over the world do not believe in that book, nor do I believe.
     

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    Do You Believe Evolution is True ?




    If so, then provide an answer to the following questions. "Evolution" in this context is the idea that natural, undirected processes are sufficient to account for the existence of all natural things.


    Something from nothing?

    The "Big Bang", the most widely accepted theory of the beginning of the universe, states that everything developed from a small dense cloud of subatomic particles and radiation which exploded, forming hydrogen (and some helium) gas. Where did this energy/matter come from? How reasonable is it to assume it came into being from nothing? And even if it did come into being, what would cause it to explode?

    We know from common experience that explosions are destructive and lead to disorder. How reasonable is it to assume that a "big bang" explosion produced the opposite effect - increasing "information", order and the formation of useful structures, such as stars and planets, and eventually people?
    Physical laws an accident?

    We know the universe is governed by several fundamental physical laws, such as electromagnetic forces, gravity, conservation of mass and energy, etc. The activities of our universe depend upon these principles like a computer program depends upon the existence of computer hardware with an instruction set. How reasonable is it to say that these great controlling principles developed by accident?

    Order from disorder?
    The Second Law of Thermodynamics may be the most verified law of science. It states that systems become more disordered over time, unless energy is supplied and directed to create order. Evolutionists says that the opposite has taken place - that order increased over time, without any directed energy. How can this be?

    ASIDE: Evolutionists commonly object that the Second Law applies to closed, or isolated systems, and that the Earth is certainly not a closed system (it gets lots of raw energy from the Sun, for example). However, all systems, whether open or closed, tend to deteriorate. For example, living organisms are open systems but they all decay and die. Also, the universe in total is a closed system. To say that the chaos of the big bang has transformed itself into the human brain with its 120 trillion connections is a clear violation of the Second Law.

    We should also point out that the availability of raw energy to a system is a necessary but far from sufficient condition for a local decrease in entropy to occur. Certainly the application of a blow torch to bicycle parts will not result in a bicycle being assembled - only the careful application of directed energy will, such as from the hands of a person following a plan. The presence of energy from the Sun does NOT solve the evolutionist's problem of how increasing order could occur on the Earth, contrary to the Second Law.

    Information from Randomness?

    Information theory states that "information" never arises out of randomness or chance events. Our human experience verifies this every day. How can the origin of the tremendous increase in information from simple organisms up to man be accounted for? Information is always introduced from the outside. It is impossible for natural processes to produce their own actual information, or meaning, which is what evolutionists claim has happened. Random typing might produce the string "dog", but it only means something to an intelligent observer who has applied a definition to this sequence of letters. The generation of information always requires intelligence, yet evolution claims that no intelligence was involved in the ultimate formation of a human being whose many systems contain vast amounts of information.

    Life from dead chemicals?

    Evolutionists claim that life formed from non-life (dead chemicals), so-called "abiogenesis", even though it is a biological law ("biogenesis") that life only comes from life. The probability of the simplest imaginable replicating system forming by itself from non-living chemicals has been calculated to be so very small as to be essentially zero - much less than one chance in the number of electron-sized particles that could fit in the entire visible universe! Given these odds, is it reasonable to believe that life formed itself?

    Complex DNA and RNA by chance?

    The continued existence (the reproduction) of a cell requires both DNA (the "plan") and RNA (the "copy mechanism"), both of which are tremendously complex. How reasonable is it to believe that these two co-dependent necessities came into existence by chance at exactly the same time?
    Life is complex.
    We know and appreciate the tremendous amount of intelligent design and planning that went into landing a man on the moon. Yet the complexity of this task pales in comparison to the complexity of even the simplest life form. How reasonable is it to believe that purely natural processes, with no designer, no intelligence, and no plan, produced a human being.

    Where are the transitional fossils?


    If evolution has taken place our museums should be overflowing with the skeletons of countless transitional forms. Yet after over one hundred years of intense searching only a small number of transitional candidates are touted as proof of evolution. If evolution has really taken place, where are the transitional forms? And why does the fossil record actually show all species first appearing fully formed, with most nearly identical to current instances of the species?

    ASIDE: Most of the examples touted by evolutionists concentrate on just one feature of the anatomy, like a particular bone or the skull. A true transitional fossil should be intermediate in many if not all aspects. The next time someone shows you how this bone changed over time, ask them about the rest of the creature too!

    Many evolutionists still like to believe in the "scarcity" of the fossil record. Yet simple statistics will show that given you have found a number of fossil instances of a creature, the chances that you have missed every one of its imagined predecessors is very small. Consider the trilobites for example. These fossils are so common you can buy one for under $20, yet no fossils of a predecessor have been found!.

    Could an intermediate even survive?

    Evolution requires the transition from one kind to another to be gradual. And don't forget that "natural selection" is supposed to retain those individuals which have developed an advantage of some sort. How could an animal intermediate between one kind and another even survive (and why would it ever be selected for), when it would not be well-suited to either its old environment or its new environment? Can you even imagine a possible sequence of small changes which takes a creature from one kind to another, all the while keeping it not only alive, but improved?

    ASIDE: Certainly a "light-sensitive spot" is better than no vision at all. But why would such a spot even develop? (evolutionists like to take this for granted). And even if it did develop, to believe that mutations of such a spot eventually brought about the tremendous complexities of the human eye strains all common sense and experience.

    Reproduction without reproduction?

    A main tenet of evolution is the idea that things develop by an (unguided) series of small changes, caused by mutations, which are "selected" for, keeping the "better" changes" over a very long period of time. How could the ability to reproduce evolve, without the ability to reproduce? Can you even imagine a theoretical scenario which would allow this to happen? And why would evolution produce two sexes, many times over? Asexual reproduction would seem to be more likely and efficient!

    ASIDE: To relegate the question of reproduction to "abiogenesis" does NOT address the problem. To assume existing, reproducing life for the principles of evolution to work on is a HUGE assumption which is seldom focused on in popular discussions.

    Plants without photosynthesis?

    The process of photosynthesis in plants is very complex. How could the first plant survive unless it already possessed this remarkable capability?
    How do you explain symbiotic relationships?
    There are many examples of plants and animals which have a "symbiotic" relationship (they need each other to survive). How can evolution explain this?
    It's no good unless it's complete.
    We know from everyday experience that an item is not generally useful until it is complete, whether it be a car, a cake, or a computer program. Why would natural selection start to make an eye, or an ear, or a wing (or anything else) when this item would not benefit the animal until it was completed?

    ASIDE: Note that even a "light-sensitive spot" or the simplest version of any feature is far from a "one-jump" change that is trivial to produce.
    Explain metamorphosis!
    How can evolution explain the metamorphosis of the butterfly? Once the caterpillar evolves into the "mass of jelly" (out of which the butterfly comes), wouldn't it appear to be "stuck"?
    It should be easy to show evolution.
    If evolution is the grand mechanism that has produced all natural things from a simple gas, surely this mechanism must be easily seen. It should be possible to prove its existence in a matter of weeks or days, if not hours. Yet scientists have been bombarding countless generations of fruit flies with radiation for several decades in order to show evolution in action and still have only produced ... more (deformed) fruit flies. How reasonable is it to believe that evolution is a fact when even the simplest of experiments has not been able to document it?

    ASIDE: The artificial creation of a new species is far too small of a change to prove that true "macro-evolution" is possible. A higher-order change, where the information content of the organism has been increased should be showable and is not. Developing a new species changes the existing information, but does not add new information, such as would be needed for a new organ, for example.
    Complex things require intelligent design folks!

    People are intelligent. If a team of engineers were to one day design a robot which could cross all types of terrain, could dig large holes, could carry several times its weight, found its own energy sources, could make more robots like itself, and was only 1/8 of an inch tall, we would marvel at this achievement. All of our life's experiences lead us to know that such a robot could never come about by accident, or assemble itself by chance, even if all of the parts were available laying next to each other. And we are certain beyond doubt that a canister of hydrogen gas, not matter how long we left it there or what type of raw energy we might apply to it, would never result in such a robot being produced. But we already have such a "robot" - it is called an "ant", and we squash them because they are "nothing" compared to people. And God made them, and he made us. Can there be any other explanation?


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    Mchan I can tell you one thing .... Some will never understand

    There are two kind of people in this world

    1. God's People ( those who b'live in one God)
    2. Anti God devil child - those who never b'live
     

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    :):):) yeah two things,
    1.worshping a religion based on BUNCH OF LIES which is proven wrong over n over again, which is known as Islam (which is done by pathetic, idotic, illiterates like u )
    2. replying 2 a dumb terrorist's post (which is done by me):no::no::no::oo::oo::oo:

    + a SO CALLED prophet who slept with a 9 year old and instructed his followers to drink camel piss..:lol::lol::lol:
     

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    Mchan I can tell you one thing .... Some will never understand

    There are two kind of people in this world

    1. God's People ( those who b'live in one God)
    2. Anti God devil child - those who never b'live

    "Two things are infinite; Universe and human stupidity, I am not sure about the Universe"


    --Albert Einstein:lol::lol::lol:

    Imagine who is more stupid? the one who beleive in a imaginary GOD who "created Us" with all diseases and natural disasters or the rational thinkers:lol::lol::lol:
     

    sirajstc

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    For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.

    Allah has explained how He created everything in the universe and brought all life out of water. He created humans from earth (not monkeys) and there is no need to attempt fabrications of "links" to the animal world in Islam.

    The Christian Bible says that Adam & Eve were both created here on Earth, less than 10,000 years ago. The Quran says that Adam & Eve were created in Heaven, and NOT on Earth. When they disobeyed God, He expelled them from Heaven, down to Earth.

    Muslims believe that souls are assigned to humans 40 days after the human inception. The Quran says that angels retrieve human souls on two occasions. One occasion is when humans die. The other occasion is every time humans fall asleep. When humans wakeup, the angels release those souls back to them:

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    It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that did not die, during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back, but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.


    [Noble Quran 39:42]



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    And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.


    [Noble Quran 24:45]



    The Quran has set a precedent 14 centuries before modern science, explaining in simple and direct terms about his "creation" of animals and their various functions and then assures us it is He who has the Power over everything. This statement includes the fact Allah can if He Wills, reshape and alter his creation as He Chooses. There is clear evidence within many species of alteration and changes within the species. However, there is no concrete evidence to support a cross over in development from one type to another, such as reptiles turning into birds or alligators turning into cows. The statements made in Quran are quite clear when Allah tells us of having brought forth other life forms and then destroying or replacing them with others. This again, does not imply evolution in the sense of one type becoming or changing into another.

    Allah tells us He is Al-Bari, (The Shaper or Evolver) but once again, this does not mean He has a need to bring about each individual life form all from one kind. Actually, while reading the Quran you learn He has brought many types and shapes and sizes as He Wills. Changes within species occur even as quickly as one or two seasons, not even taking a whole year, much less millions as was supposed by Darwin.

    Speaking of Charles Darwin, he was only an armature naturalist and had only observed the finches (birds) on the Galapagos Islands for the first time in the mid 1850s. He noticed that on each island the birds had different shaped beaks according to the type of food available on their particular island. For this reason, he assumed, the birds had progressed over millions of years and only the hardiest of the species had survived the climate and vegetation changes. However, this is totally inaccurate and was dismissed as a mere humor in a TV series on the educational channel in October of 1998. According to the scientists’ discoveries in that very same year, the effects of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino, the climate on these same exact islands had drastically changed in a single year within a number of months. And to their surprise, the eggs of the finches on each island hatched open producing birds with beaks already altered to accommodate the changes of their environment.

    The commentator even said this shoots Darwin's theory completely down and he laughed.

    There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life. It worked, too - until his smoking caused him to die of cancer.

    The rational approach to the whole subject is rather simple. Just as He is able to Create the universe and bring forth life, it is simple also for Him to produce as many different types of forms of life as He Wills. No problem for Him, after all - He is the Creator and He is the Shaper. And most important, He can change anything as He Wills - even today :D