Please tell me the correct God
OK OK. Please tell me who is the correct God - is it the Christian God or the Muslim God?
OK OK. Please tell me who is the correct God - is it the Christian God or the Muslim God?
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Life After Death : What is the reality ?
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You may be correct. You may be wrong.
I did not do any survey on this subject. I have not read anything on that either.
But even if your figure is correct, it does not prove the existence any God or Allah.
That is because none of those scientists has done any research on the existence of God/Allah.
Good. Good. So, according to you, those who believe in God/Allah are scientists.
And those who do not believe in God/Allah are not scientists!
Dear I dont know back ground of this thread, i haven't read all of your post. by the way I just wanted to write regarding this particular question,
GOD is only one for the whole humanity, but only we have separated from each other and started believing in different faith. with regard to this,you would have asked us which faith is correct. as i am a Muslim, I have read about Quran, Bible&little abt others. I feel more Comfortable with Quran than another Scriptures on the face of this earth as others are having lot of contradictions& manipulation
Quran Still maintain its purity, and bible of course fabricated and manipulated.this has God's words as well as human being words.this was revealed to Jesus (pbuh) for that period of time for the particular people.and later Allah revealed a final and last revelation that is the Quran to Final & Last messenger Mohammed(saw). as Allah say in the Quran It was revealed to Whole of humanity.
OK. I have heard this story a thousand and one times.
But Christians say an entirely different story. For them, Bible is correct and Koran is wrong.
But both Christians and Muslims can't be correct. Only one group can be correct.
Christians are brainwashed in one way. Muslims are brainwashed in a different way. Either way, you are victims of brainwashing.
Therefore, both devout Christians and devout Muslims cannot look at things as they really are. They look through coloured glasses.
are you serious for seeking reality.....
will you accept the religion if we prove one God...?
this is the habit and trick of more atheist may be you not have that when the reality become clear they jumped to the next ..
i tells you the even with me on another forum, a boy arize same question like you i have given satisfactory answer, he jumped to the next and next....after the discussion of a week and complete answer he said, show me your God....and insist on it and close ...
Now tell me is there any benefit of such discussion ...
will you accept the religion if we prove one God...?
As per us all jews, christians are worshipping the same god and we call them as people of the book.
we arent brain washed as u think. but u had been brain washed as we are in a blind way. we dont get any harm to our life by practising islam correctly but our life get smooth and easy and beneficial for others as well.
buddhist tell tripitaka is the correct, hindus may tell there veda is the correct,for christians their bible and for us our quran. they are following their own faith. so u cant lable any one as brain washed.
if ur an athiest its little logical to call other belevers brain washed!!anyway.....
we arent brain washed as u think. but u had been brain washed as we are in a blind way. we dont get any harm to our life by practising islam correctly but our life get smooth and easy and beneficial for others as well.
buddhist tell tripitaka is the correct, hindus may tell there veda is the correct,for christians their bible and for us our quran. they are following their own faith. so u cant lable any one as brain washed.
if ur an athiest its little logical to call other belevers brain washed!!anyway.....
Of course, I am serious. The moment the existence of God is proved by scientists, I'll immediately be a devout follower of that all powerful God.
But hafizsaad's answers only are not acceptable to me. Because his answers only will not prove the existence of God.
certainly, But according to our guide lines. And you have to show that Christian god is not the same as Islamic God.
do u believe??????????????????????? why?
don't dodge the question?
Just for the fact, I don't beleive in unicorns. Not just because I have never seen one. I have seen a shred of physical evidence supporting the evidence of one.
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“Do you believe in God?”
This question is probably the first and most commonly asked question that people use when trying to start a religious conversation with someone. And no matter how many people that are being asked this question; for those who believe; the answer is always the same: yes I believe in God, which gives the impression that we all believe in the same God. But when we move along with our conversation and try to find out about the person’s concept of God or ask this person to explain to us the nature of God from his point of view; we will probably hear a different idea or theory from each person we talk to and sometimes (many times in fact) we will hear more than a couple of ideas or theories from each person. As a matter of fact; if we were to bring in a family consisting of five persons and ask each person separately about his concept; we will find out that each one has a different concept that is contradicting to the concepts of his family members.
Difference in concepts :
There must be about hundreds of different concepts or philosophies out there that tries to explain the nature of God and who He really is or how He is like or what kind of qualities does He possess and so on. So how could we know which concept is correct and which one should we accept ?
Concept of God in different Religion :
we will discuss the concept of God according to the three main and largest leading religions that exists; Islam, Christianity and Judaism. Everything will be backed up with scriptural evidence so there would be no doubts of dishonesty or untruthfulness.
The sources of the Islamic concept are the Qur’an and the Sunna (The teachings of the prophet of Islam peace be upon him)
The source of Christianity and Judaism is the Bible for both religions established their concepts from it, keeping in mind that Judaism accepts the Old Testament only to be its holy scripture while Christianity takes both the old and the New Testament (the whole bible) to be its holy scripture.
ISLAM
Muslim being brought up by the teachings of Islam and Quran; the answer is easy; choose the concept that glorifies God the most, the concept that attributes to God complete perfection and uniqueness, the concept that attributes to God the most exalted qualities and the most sublime descriptions.
cristianity & Judaism
Even though both religions relay on the same book which would only make sense for them to adopt the same concept, yet there are major and serious differences between the two religions concerning the nature of God. The most radical difference is with no doubt the issue of whether there is one God or three Gods. Judaism has always believed in the existence of One God and rejected any ideas that would suggest the existence of any other Gods beside God the Father where as Christianity believes in the existence of three Gods, Christianity has appointed Jesus and the Holy Spirit to be Gods along with God the Father.
And even though both the old and the new testament teaches pure monotheism, yet Christianity chose to neglect and abandon all the clear evidence that are mentioned in the bible and managed to come up with concepts and philosophies of its own that led Christianity to become a polytheistic religion rather than a monotheistic one and this is were the role of the church comes in.
So Christianity and Judaism adopt the same concept concerning God the Father. But they differ concerning the other two (so called) Gods that are added by Christianity.
Please note that in the early stages; Christianity was never considered to be a separate religion from Judaism,yet it was like a newer version for it.*
Christians believe in the existence of three Gods. They believe in something called the trinity;This doctrine simply attributes the deity to three persons. They say that even though the Father is God and Jesus is a God and the Holy Spirit is also a God; yet there is only one God and not three Gods. They say that the Father + the Son + the Holy Spirit = one god and not three. So according to Christianity; 1+1+1= 1 but according to mathematics and logic and everything we have learned; 1+1+1= 3. so unless Christians mean that the Father is 1/3 God and the son is 1/3 God and the Holy Spirit is 1/3 God which makes the three combined as one complete God; no one who thinks properly and according to logic can accept this Trinitarian formula. Specially when Christians believe that the Father is a complete God, the son is another complete God and the Holy Spirit is another complete God, and each of them has a different and a separate identity, personality, characteristics and acts and not all three are equal in greatness and knowledge and power or capability as clearly shown in the bible in many verses.
The most shocking of all is that the word “trinity” is not found any where in the bible and there is not one verse in the bible that states that there are three Gods or that there are three persons in one Godhead as claimed by this doctrine. So the doctrine of the trinity basically does not have any manuscript proofs that could back it up. It is simply one of the inventions of the early church. This doctrine never existed during the life time of Jesus nor was it practiced by Christianity after his death until the 4th century. So for 400 years Christianity new nothing about this doctrine until it was formulated by the church in the year 381 in the council of Constantinople, yet it wasn't until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon, that the trinity was declared authoritative.
God in Islam vs cristianity vs Judaism
so from the above discussion we can say that The traditional view of Christianity show that Jesus' God, moses God, are same as Muhammad's God (Allah) that is only one for the whole humanity.But A lot fabrication and manipulation has been made in the old testimonal of cristianity and jews and now they have God's words as well as human being words in their holy books.so after these lot of fabrication and manipulation in the old testimonal of cristianity and jews the concept & nature of God Has been differ from what quran mention and introduce .
Now we take what the difference:
Christianity& Judaism
After seeing bible verses that speaks about God’s attributes and qualities, it is clear that in the bible; God’s attributes and qualities does not differ much from the attributes or characteristics of humans.
According to the Bible; God is just like humans. He eats and drinks, He gets tired and needs to rest to be refreshed, He sleeps, He forgets, He gets grieved, He makes mistakes then regrets making it, He repents, He is unwise, unjust, He is not merciful, He is a violent God who likes the killing and the destruction, He is not there for His people, He does not answer there prayers and stand beside them in times of trouble, He even does evil things to His people. He wants ignorance for mankind. He deceives them and His prophets, He is not Omniscient, there are things that He does not know, He is not omnipotent; there are things that He is incapable of doing, He is weak, He is helpless and in need of others. The devil is more truthful than Him, He is the author of pornography and a pervert, He commands people with indecency, He could be fouled, He is foolish and He does childish things like whistling. He acts like a drunken man. He even roars like a lion, howl like a jackal, moan like an owl, wail like a dragon. He is like a moth and a bear and a leopard. He weeps and wails and even cries and gasp and pant like a woman in childbirth. And more.
So the question is; does these attributes and qualities befit the true God, The Lord and Creator of all that exists?
Any sane and upright person would agree with us that such attributes are considered to be a great insult to God Almighty. Who would worship a God who has such attributes and qualities?
ISLAM
After reading what mention In Quran it is clear that the concept of God according to Islam differs big time from the concept of God according to Christianity.
According to Islam; nothing is like unto God in His attributes and qualities or in His acts or His Holy Soul may all praises do to Him. God’s attributes and qualities are unique and perfect and can’t be compared with anyone else’s attributes or qualities.
The Qur’an says:
“There is nothing like Him” (surah no.42 verse 11)
“Do you know of any who is similar to Him? (Of course none is similar or coequal or comparable to Him, and He has none as partner with Him).” (Surah no.19 verse65)
“And there is no one co-equal or comparable unto Him” (surah no.112 verse 4)
There are great differences between God the Creator and the creature, so we can’t ascribe God Almighty with the things that we ascribe to humans. In other words; we can’t say that God eats or drinks or gets tired or sleeps or forgets or attribute to Him anything that indicates weakness, because He Almighty is far from weakness. We also can’t attribute to Him anything that indicates having any defects because He Almighty is free from any defects. He Almighty is perfect so all His attributes and qualities and acts and decisions are perfect and good and not like humans who might have some good qualities and some bad ones or might act wrongly or make mistakes or make unwise decisions.
“And to Allah belongs the highest and sublime description” (Al-Nahl, verse 60).
“His is the highest and the most exalted description in the heavens and the earth; and He is the Mighty, the Wise.” (Al-Room verse 27).
As it is shown from reading all that we have mentioned that the Islamic concept of God is all about glorifying God from all that does not befit Him and attributing to Him complete perfection and high exalted qualities and describing Him with the most sublime descriptions. So after all we shall ask one last question;
Which concept of God would you dear reader prefer to be the concept of the True God, The Creator and The Provider of the universe? Do you prefer the concept of God according to Christianity or according to Islam?
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* This fact is confirmed by the bible in many various places even by Jesus himself. Jesus used to urge people to follow the Law and always referred to it and to the teachings of the prophets before him in his teachings.
Some of the things he said were: “I did not come to abolish the law or the prophet but to fulfill. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen will disappear from the law until everything is accomplished anyone who breaks the least of one of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Mathew 5/17-20, also Luke 16/17) So it was clear that he did not come with a different religion. He even said that he was sent to the same people Moses was sent to; the Jews. He said: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Mathew 15/27) that is why He used to teach in the Jews synagogues (Mark 1/39)
And after Jesus’ death; the situation remained the same for many years. Christianity was never considered a separate religion. Christians did not even have separate churches for them to go to in the early stages; they used to share the same houses of God with the Jews.
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Sis, point is unicorns, invisible "green" ( or red or blue) magic dragon or celestial teapot or God - all belongs to the same class.
No one can disprove any of these because it does not exist in reality.
You believe in old testement?
1. Allah asks one of the prophets to kill his sons to show his gratitude towards Allah.
- Allah did not create this prophet in a way that he always obeys him
- Allah wanted him to kill his son to know whether he is failthful of Allah. So Allah did not knew beforehand he was faithful or not
2. Allah created set of non-believers. Is this a mistake?
3. Even if he created them he cannot change them in to believers (he is omnipotenet so could do it)
4. Allah's creation, man is a imperfect creation. Old age, diseases, genetic disorders and wars. Imperfect creation = imperfect creator
Now the argument you brings out to defend these, I can hit back with to prove that there can be many Gods. So think and post them.
Then what i want is physical evidence of presence of Allah. It should prove there is only one God. Don't talk of miracles, because I can use it to describe presence of more than one God.
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