Top 10 reasons Islam Is Not From God

ex-muslim Ahmed

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    Reason #1:

    Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God's first test for a prophet.
    Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God.
    (Deuteronomy 18:21,22, NAS95) 21 "You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’ 22 "When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.​
    Muslims recognize this and try to overcome the principle of God confirming his revelation with signs by asserting that the revelation of the Qur’an itself is a sign. When Muhammad was challenged by the Jews and Christians to produce a sign, he received a special revelation from Allah.
    Qur'an 6:37-39, 36. And they said: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Allâh is certainly Able to send down a sign, but most of them know not." 38. There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communitie like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered. 39. Those who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allâh sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills.​
    Muslims claim that the Qur'an itself is the sign God gave Muhammad.
    Notice the difference in the Muslim claims and the evidence put forward by the Hebrew writer in Hebrews 2:3-4,
    "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?"​
     

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    Reason #1:

    Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God's first test for a prophet.
    Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God.
    (Deuteronomy 18:21,22, NAS95) 21 "You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’ 22 "When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.​
    Muslims recognize this and try to overcome the principle of God confirming his revelation with signs by asserting that the revelation of the Qur’an itself is a sign. When Muhammad was challenged by the Jews and Christians to produce a sign, he received a special revelation from Allah.
    Qur'an 6:37-39, 36. And they said: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Allâh is certainly Able to send down a sign, but most of them know not." 38. There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communitie like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered. 39. Those who reject Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) are deaf and dumb in darkness. Allâh sends astray whom He wills and He guides on the Straight Path whom He wills.​
    Muslims claim that the Qur'an itself is the sign God gave Muhammad.
    Notice the difference in the Muslim claims and the evidence put forward by the Hebrew writer in Hebrews 2:3-4,
    "How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; 4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?"​

    So called ex muslim,

    I can give you more quotations from the same bible itself to prove Mohammed (SAW) prophesied

    Old Testament

    The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

    "Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel".
    Prophet Muhammad, prophesised in the Book of Deuteronomy:

    Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:
    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

    The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet.

    If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets.

    However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh):

    Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.
    [Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47]

    Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children.

    Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158)

    Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

    Words in the mouth:

    Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim.
    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." [Deuteronomy 18:18]

    Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said, "My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36).

    Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his
    people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not."

    Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18).

    It is Mentioned in the book of Deuteronomy chapter 18:19

    "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."

    Muhammad (pbuh) is prophesised in the book of Isaiah:

    It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:
    "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

    When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".

    New Testament

    Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:

    "And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "

    All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.
    John chapter 14 verse 16:
    "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."

    Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
    "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."

    Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
    "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".

    "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.

    Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
    Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

    Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:

    "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
    come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".

    The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

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    Mr.Ex , Please be clear with your concept, before u copy and paste any comments.

    finally,I want to know, if you are an atheist why you take the quotation from bible.I think You suffer from ISLAM PHOBIA, Come on man! Dont be jealous with growth & purity of Islam.
     
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    So called ex muslim,

    Mr.Ex , Please be clear with your concept, before u copy and paste any comments.

    finally,I want to know, if you are an atheist why you take the quotation from bible.I think You suffer from ISLAM PHOBIA, Come on man! Dont be jealous with growth & purity of Islam.


    :cool:
     

    ex-muslim Ahmed

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    So called ex muslim,

    I can give you more quotations from the same bible itself to prove Mohammed (SAW) prophesied

    blah..blah blah..oynk..oynk

    .

    Mr.Ex , Please be clear with your concept, before u copy and paste any comments.

    finally,I want to know, if you are an atheist why you take the quotation from bible.I think You suffer from ISLAM PHOBIA, Come on man! Dont be jealous with growth & purity of Islam.


    Ha ha yea right ..we all know your GREAT war mongering prophet is in bible, tora, and even in buddhist scriptures..yea..right:lol:

    we all know how you pathetic uneducated nutters twist fact and tell bold lies to deceive your selves and others. So funny you all live in a big lie.. and you peoplw think we are fools:lol: and wont recognise your cheap funny tricks.. get a life!

    jelouse? about a "self proclaimed" prophet who went to bed with a 9 old girl? :lol: what purity you expect from a man like that? :no:
    A muderer who went on to kill and loot caravans in madina? a prophet of god?:lol:

    Grow some brains.....:lol::lol:
     

    hafizsaad

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    Ha ha yea right ..we all know your GREAT war mongering prophet is in bible, tora, and even in buddhist scriptures..yea..right:lol:

    we all know how you pathetic uneducated nutters twist fact and tell bold lies to deceive your selves and others. So funny you all live in a big lie.. and you peoplw think we are fools:lol: and wont recognise your cheap funny tricks.. get a life!

    jelouse? about a "self proclaimed" prophet who went to bed with a 9 old girl? :lol: what purity you expect from a man like that? :no:
    A muderer who went on to kill and loot caravans in madina? a prophet of god?:lol:

    Grow some brains.....:lol::lol:
    Don't run to other topic, its your habit :shocked:.
    give reason about the uper discussion if njsa has try to deceive.If you are true give reason.:no:
     

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