How to refute Buddhism according to Muslims

Wal Bada

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  • It is for us, no life after death on this earth.
    Ok, it solves the problem.

    Then who decide who made bad deeds and rewarding as pigs in next birth
    No one decides. If the strongest karma is able to give rise to an animal birth, and the wigngnana of the being looks for a suitable place to get born. It could be a womb of a pig.

    See Now Population is day by day increasing...crimes are increasing as well. then if some one want to agree with your point, then now population should reduce and animals should increase. this is illogical
    I said there are 4 hells, the world of pretha (spirits) and animals. We can only see animals. Hells and spirits can only be seen by a person who achieved nibbana and possess special mental abilities (called dhyana). The animals, hells and spirits outnumber humans very easily. So there is ample people to be born as humans when the effect of their bad karmas wean off. The karmas which is responsible for the birth is not only what you have done in this birth, but in previous births as well.

    then who will do the deciding about as to who has done good deeds or bad deeds, and next birth process...how u r coming again?
    No one decides. The bad deeds are in ten broad categories and so are the good deeds. Buddha just described what is bad and what is good.

    in the world Just being thrown in the air or wat....Seems to b so silly...then if some one of your beloved person die, why u people should worry, bec he will come back again right..
    The person who dies will reincarnate as a different person (different identity) by inherit all the kamma from previous births. On that not he's not a new person as well. The relatives of the previous birth has no way to know where the deceased is reincarnated unless there's a person who has attained nibbana. Now is there a place the process is unclear?
     
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    Whatever you said is not possible, unless there is a super power as to who decide all...anyway your logic is in favour of your faith,it may be good for u as u are buddhist.but not for me.
    anyway please think which is correct...after all we all are humans ,need to think which is correct logically and follow the correct path...Best of luck..
     

    Mononoke

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    haa!! haa! nice Story.., the PC which you are using now,never been in to existense just like a lightning strikes.There was a manufacturer.
    Wal Bada said:
    Natural processes and artificial processes are different.

    Also there are so many artificial processes that have no overarching design. Most of our cities exhibit order but has no design. the economy has no overachieving design, but exhibits order and utility. Recently in a forum discussion, Linus Torvalds himself conceded that most what Linux has become is through sheer accident.

    Here is an actual part of the discussion:
    And I will claim that nobody else "designed" Linux any more than I did,
    and I doubt I'll have many people disagreeing. It grew. It grew with a lot
    of mutations - and because the mutations were less than random, they were
    faster and more directed than alpha-particles in DNA.
    Source
     

    hafizsaad

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    Ah, He's gone postal! I ask him one question that doesn't have a cut and paste response, and the man looses it.

    the point which the ' I LOVE SIRILANKA' GIVEN ARE LOGICAL OR NOT ?
    U CAN ALSO TRY TO COPY / PASTE .NO WAY TO RUN ....
    YOU CAN ONLY CRITICIZE...
     

    pasaniw

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    what you say about its growing rate in america and europe where other religion people are accepting islam and where birth ratio is very low.



    islam attartion is so complete it not only attract poor / middle class peoples but also elite class peoples also , the example you yourseld have given...
    if you see this is trick ...why you don't use this trick for your religion



    you are confused person .your upper statement contradict with....it is more easy for poor people to accept good religion than elite class peoples.



    for your attention marriage with other religion people in islam not appreciated and to some people not permitted.



    see my below thread in this forum if you are serious in your Question

    THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND EUROPE CONVERT TO ISLAM (ALL VEDIO'S))

    FAMOUS ATHEIST PEOPLE CONVERT TO ISLAM (SEE VEDIO'S AND LISTEN THEIR COMMENTS)


    what you have learn is all misconception ...we invite you to learn islam personally and rationaly from what it present itself like its religious book, its prophet life and their companion life, instead of reading irrational writer and speecher...

    you will realize what is the reality, a divine religion or a self created religion by a human..
    giver respect receive respect





    Albert Einstein is the scientist not the philospher, writer, researcher
    see the link below

    QUOTATIONS ON ISLAMIC CIVILIZATION BY FAMOUS PEOPLES OF WORLD
    see

    Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

    "If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."

    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."

    "I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."

    Hey mister you have failed against my point.
    Anyway,

    Muslims have been attackers and caused lot of damages to buddhism due to ruthless so called religious attacks in the name of allah... don't u agree?
    Why muslims destroyed temples in india, afganisthan from the past...
    The most recent massive incident is muslim terrorists destroying world's oldest heightest buddhist statues in Afganisthan. So Do you think that correct???

    Is that a part of your religion?
     

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    Hey mister you have failed against my point.
    Anyway,

    Muslims have been attackers and caused lot of damages to buddhism due to ruthless so called religious attacks in the name of allah... don't u agree?
    Why muslims destroyed temples in india, afganisthan from the past...
    The most recent massive incident is muslim terrorists destroying world's oldest heightest buddhist statues in Afganisthan. So Do you think that correct???

    Is that a part of your religion?

    AFGHANISTAN SUFFERS FROM THE WEST'S DOUBLE STANDARD


    [By Dr. Munir El-Kassem]

    Are you want to know why Budhist statues destroyed, Is it part of religion islam to destroy others religious art and heritage ?

    Are muslims have monopoly in destroying religous things ?

    if you want to know answer, you have to read completly the following Article:



    As expected, the "civilized" world is up in arms against the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan in their attempt to destroy two statues of the Buddha carved into a mountain in Bamiyan Province. This seems like the pot calling the kettle black. It is flagrant hypocrisy on the part of countries like the U.S., Russia, India, Britain, and France, among many others, to condemn Afghanistan for a fault of their own.

    Taliban spokesperson said that the decision to destroy the statues had been made out of anger and frustration. International agencies were spending hefty amounts of money to repair the Buddhist statues, while nothing was being done to address the plight of Afghan children ravaged by malnutrition. He added that the statues were tolerated for 1500 years. Now, they had turned into a hated symbol of Western preference for rock over Afghan lives.

    Is It Muslims Monopoly to destory Religious Points


    It is hypocritical of a country like Russia, for example, to voice its condemnation of the Taliban over the destruction of the Buddhas. It was reported that since the Russian invasion of 1979, "thousands of Hellenistic, Persian and Indian artifacts from Afghanistan's many-layered past have been smuggled out to the voracious and amoral Western art market."

    If the West claims to be the guardian of cultural heritage, how come no one moved a pen to condemn the destruction of the historical Babri Mosque in India ? The world cannot quickly erase from its memory what happened in 1992. In tearing down the Babri Mosque, Indian mobs threatened to "cleanse" India of all Islamic shrines, palaces and artifacts. Two-hundred million Indian Muslims were attached to the Babri Mosque, while there is not a single Buddhist living in Afghanistan. Minorities continue to be threatened in India, whereas not a single non-Muslim was deliberately killed in Afghanistan. The Associated Press reported that in Kabul there is one old Jewish rabbi who stayed to protect a synagogue in the centre of the city. The Taliban did not prevent him from practicing his religion.

    Where were the guardians of cultural heritage when mosques, libraries, historic buildings, and museums were destroyed in Bosnia, Kosovo and Palestine? The real culprits who displayed "medieval barbarianism" and
    committed a "great crime against humanity" were not the Taliban, but those who killed Imams and civilians while destroying historic monuments.


    The world has to wake up to the fact that the Taliban cannot be branded as destroyers of religious art. During the 13 centuries of Muslim rule in Afghanistan, layers of cultural heritage were preserved. One has to remember that the Taliban are not destroying any place of worship or anything belonging to a place of worship. In contrast, the most widespread destruction of religious art in modern times occurred under Chairman Mao during China's Cultural Revolution.

    Let us examine the record of the "culturally advanced" nations. When France occupied Algeria, it tried to destroy its Islamic way of life by turning Algeria into a major producer of wine. Can anyone defend this as preservation of culture? Cultural heritage is not only statues and monuments, but also traditions that run deep in people's lives.

    Over 3000 Cambodian Buddhist temples were destroyed in bombings by the U.S. and the Pol Pot regime during the Indochina War. Cambodians themselves (who are Buddhists) have sawed off heads and busts of numerous temple statues and sold them to Western smugglers. This wanton destruction is clearly evident to visitors of such world famous Buddhist cultural centres as Ankor Wat.


    The "culturally advanced" U.S. sent 24 American long-range missiles streaking over Pakistani air space and destroyed the beautiful "people's mosque" in Afghanistan while attempting to murder Osama Bin Laden. Many innocent worshippers were killed in the process.

    In 1945, the British and U.S. air forces bombed Dresden, Germany, even though it had been declared an open city. 100,000 civilians, including large numbers of children, were killed. Dozens of exquisite churches, museums and works of art were destroyed.

    How could the world community care more about the destruction of two statues than about 100,000 refugees who have been starving and freezing to death near Herat, a few hundred miles away ?


    Is it part of religion islam to destroy others religious art and heritage ?

    The point of my article is not to justify the destruction of statues in Afghanistan. As a matter of fact, I seem to agree with the Grand Mufti of Pakistan who said, "there could be disagreement among the scholars regarding the priorities and the methods. Some might question whether the action (destroying the statues) would alienate the Buddhist nations in Southeast Asia at a critical time for Afghanistan."

    The Qur'an tells us,
    "We have not set you as a keeper over them,
    nor are you responsible for them.
    Abuse not those whom they worship besides God, lest they out of spite abuse God in their ignorance."


    Muslims are supposed to carry the message of God to humanity. They are not supposed to force people to accept Islam or destroy other people's sacred symbols and places of worship. However, as mentioned earlier, what the Taliban did in Afghanistan was not triggered by contempt towards another religion or a religious duty, but rather, by the hypocrisy of some members of the world community, and they have do this on their own decision. Justice demands that condemnation should not only be directed at the weak, but also at the strong.


    [Dr. Munir El-Kassem is a dentist in London, Ontario, and a member of the Board of Trustees of the Canadian Islamic Congress. This piece is based on an article published by the London Free Press, London, Ontario.]
     

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    AFGHANISTAN SUFFERS FROM THE WEST'S DOUBLE STANDARD


    [By Dr. Munir El-Kassem]

    Are you want to know why Budhist statues destroyed, Is it part of religion islam to destroy others religious art and heritage ?

    Are muslims have monopoly in destroying religous things ?

    if you want to know answer, you have to read completly the following Article:
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    As expected, the "civilized" world is up in arms against the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan in their attempt to destroy two statues of the Buddha carved into a mountain in Bamiyan Province. This seems like the pot calling the kettle black. It is flagrant hypocrisy on the part of countries like the U.S., Russia, India, Britain, and France, among many others, to condemn Afghanistan for a fault of their own.

    Taliban spokesperson said that the decision to destroy the statues had been made out of anger and frustration. International agencies were spending hefty amounts of money to repair the Buddhist statues, while nothing was being done to address the plight of Afghan children ravaged by malnutrition. He added that the statues were tolerated for 1500 years. Now, they had turned into a hated symbol of Western preference for rock over Afghan lives.

    Is It Muslims Monopoly to destory Religious Points


    It is hypocritical of a country like Russia, for example, to voice its condemnation of the Taliban over the destruction of the Buddhas. It was reported that since the Russian invasion of 1979, "thousands of Hellenistic, Persian and Indian artifacts from Afghanistan's many-layered past have been smuggled out to the voracious and amoral Western art market."

    If the West claims to be the guardian of cultural heritage, how come no one moved a pen to condemn the destruction of the historical Babri Mosque in India ? The world cannot quickly erase from its memory what happened in 1992. In tearing down the Babri Mosque, Indian mobs threatened to "cleanse" India of all Islamic shrines, palaces and artifacts. Two-hundred million Indian Muslims were attached to the Babri Mosque, while there is not a single Buddhist living in Afghanistan. Minorities continue to be threatened in India, whereas not a single non-Muslim was deliberately killed in Afghanistan. The Associated Press reported that in Kabul there is one old Jewish rabbi who stayed to protect a synagogue in the centre of the city. The Taliban did not prevent him from practicing his religion.

    Where were the guardians of cultural heritage when mosques, libraries, historic buildings, and museums were destroyed in Bosnia, Kosovo and Palestine? The real culprits who displayed "medieval barbarianism" and
    committed a "great crime against humanity" were not the Taliban, but those who killed Imams and civilians while destroying historic monuments.


    The world has to wake up to the fact that the Taliban cannot be branded as destroyers of religious art. During the 13 centuries of Muslim rule in Afghanistan, layers of cultural heritage were preserved. One has to remember that the Taliban are not destroying any place of worship or anything belonging to a place of worship. In contrast, the most widespread destruction of religious art in modern times occurred under Chairman Mao during China's Cultural Revolution.

    Let us examine the record of the "culturally advanced" nations. When France occupied Algeria, it tried to destroy its Islamic way of life by turning Algeria into a major producer of wine. Can anyone defend this as preservation of culture? Cultural heritage is not only statues and monuments, but also traditions that run deep in people's lives.

    Over 3000 Cambodian Buddhist temples were destroyed in bombings by the U.S. and the Pol Pot regime during the Indochina War. Cambodians themselves (who are Buddhists) have sawed off heads and busts of numerous temple statues and sold them to Western smugglers. This wanton destruction is clearly evident to visitors of such world famous Buddhist cultural centres as Ankor Wat.


    The "culturally advanced" U.S. sent 24 American long-range missiles streaking over Pakistani air space and destroyed the beautiful "people's mosque" in Afghanistan while attempting to murder Osama Bin Laden. Many innocent worshippers were killed in the process.

    In 1945, the British and U.S. air forces bombed Dresden, Germany, even though it had been declared an open city. 100,000 civilians, including large numbers of children, were killed. Dozens of exquisite churches, museums and works of art were destroyed.

    How could the world community care more about the destruction of two statues than about 100,000 refugees who have been starving and freezing to death near Herat, a few hundred miles away ?
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    Is it part of religion islam to destroy others religious art and heritage ?

    The point of my article is not to justify the destruction of statues in Afghanistan. As a matter of fact, I seem to agree with the Grand Mufti of Pakistan who said, "there could be disagreement among the scholars regarding the priorities and the methods. Some might question whether the action (destroying the statues) would alienate the Buddhist nations in Southeast Asia at a critical time for Afghanistan."

    The Qur'an tells us,
    "We have not set you as a keeper over them,
    nor are you responsible for them.
    Abuse not those whom they worship besides God, lest they out of spite abuse God in their ignorance."


    Muslims are supposed to carry the message of God to humanity. They are not supposed to force people to accept Islam or destroy other people's sacred symbols and places of worship. However, as mentioned earlier, what the Taliban did in Afghanistan was not triggered by contempt towards another religion or a religious duty, but rather, by the hypocrisy of some members of the world community, and they have do this on their own decision. Justice demands that condemnation should not only be directed at the weak, but also at the strong.


    [Dr. Munir El-Kassem is a dentist in London, Ontario, and a member of the Board of Trustees of the Canadian Islamic Congress. This piece is based on an article published by the London Free Press, London, Ontario.]

    My God! I have no 2 hours time to read and understand this post - as long as half the Koran.
     

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    My God! I have no 2 hours time to read and understand this post - as long as half the Koran.


    Dont read it will remove your confusion about Islam...:no:
    Read Budha= athiest :shocked:
    i know you have very small time, you use Internet only 24 hour a day.:lol:therefore i suggest to read only the last paragraph..
    :cool:
     
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    Dont read it will remove your confusion about Islam...:no:
    Read Budha= athiest :shocked:
    i know you have very small time, you use Internet only 24 hour a day.:lol:therefore i suggest to read only the last paragraph..
    :cool:
    Yes. Internet for 2 hours or less per day. I have to work hard to earn and look after children and family. And a lot of other commitments. And my work is very very tedious and time consuming, my friend.

    Confusion about Islam? What do you mean?
     

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    Yes. Internet for 2 hours or less per day. I have to work hard to earn and look after children and family. And a lot of other commitments. And my work is very very tedious and time consuming, my friend.

    Confusion about Islam? What do you mean?

    :lol::cool:
     

    ex-muslim Ahmed

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    islam it self is a one big confusion:lol:

    quran says God created us from earth, blood clot and what ever and seems even god is not sure..
    prophet goes to bed with a 9 year old who plays with dolls..:shocked: andd this prophet ask his followers to drink camel piss:lol:
    the great kind prophet PERSONALLY BEHEAD 900 UNARMED prisoners :no:
    AND gives healthy advice how we should dip the two wings of house fly in our soup :lol:

    Confusion??....I dont think CONFUSION is the correct word..:lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
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    islam it self is a one big confusion:lol:

    quran says God created us from earth, blood clot and what ever and seems even god is not sure..
    prophet goes to bed with a 9 year old who plays with dolls..:shocked: andd this prophet ask his followers to drink camel piss:lol:
    the great kind prophet PERSONALLY BEHEAD 900 UNARMED prisoners :no:
    AND gives healthy advice how we should dip the two wings of house fly in our soup :lol:

    Cofusion..I dont think CONFUSION is the correct word..

    NO OTHER MAN CONFUSED BUT ONLY YOU..........WHY ?

    YOU WANT TO REMAIN CONFUSED...........RACIST...... OPPOSER


    THERE COULD BE NO TREATMENT DISCOVERED IN THE MEDICAL SCIENCE HISTORY FOR THE PERSON WHO WANT TO REMAIN SICK....ITS REALITY.........
    BUT WE HAVE SYMPATHETIC FEELING FOR YOU.......WE PRAY FOR YOUR HEALTH TO GOD
     
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    No. No. You talked about my confusion as well.

    BTW, I chose the font 'Comic Sans MS' because the whole thing is so comical. :cool:

    I am fairly certain he called me confused as well. Now if I were any younger i would start a facebook group called "people whom hafizaad claims are confused"
     

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    No. No. You talked about my confusion as well.

    BTW, I chose the font 'Comic Sans MS' because the whole thing is so comical. :cool:

    we Dont mind Ex - Point as he is a racist, he can never convinced with muslims..his aim of life is only to insult islam therefore he always raize the points instead of seeing answer to those points by muslim I think if a person rationaly read that detail it can be clearer to him easily.

    i think you are a rational person If you want to know the reality i can give here and also mail you brief detail on these topic...One more thing these topic required complete detail to clear all the point that can be raised on topic . If you want to know the reality you have to read complete detail...?
    are You intrested in reading that material...?
    I have use "Courier New" fonts As we can also guide or assit only peoples who require our assistance....:cool:

     

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    I am fairly certain he called me confused as well. Now if I were any younger i would start a facebook group called "people whom hafizaad claims are confused"

    i have not claim, you can read my post again:lol:
    So lets i start to give detail on these topic in a new thread....
    I have earlier said these topic required complete detail and i can't write personaly that detail on the forum and i am also not a scholor so i will use authentic answer of my scholor on these topic...
    One Question from you, Are you have confusion on all the topic which ex - mentioned or on only first two.
    your rational and honest intrest will be required if you want to know reality on these topics.
     
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    I have earlier said these topic required complete detail and i can't write personaly that detail on the forum and i am also not a scholor so i will use authentic answer of my scholor on these topic...
    One Question from you, Are you have confusion on all the topic which ex - mentioned or on only first two.
    your rational and honest intrest will be required if you want to know reality on these topics
    .

    How come one with sane mind, one who is cultured enough and one who respect basic human ethics, justify, a 53 year old going to bed with a 9 year old claiming god asked him??:shocked:

    How come one justify a so called prophet asking his followers to drink camell piss? or dip fly wings in soup??:lol:
    Or personally beheading 900 odd unarmed men, women and children?:no:

    get lost you joker
    :lol::lol: