i think Bible God made the earth and made the first man and women later the animals one by one. later he flood it and killed all to redo the current animals and humans with Noah. not the Muslim or Hindu God al mightieez. Only Bible God
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Question for matti pussa
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i think Bible God made the earth and made the first man and women later the animals one by one. later he flood it and killed all to redo the current animals and humans with Noah. not the Muslim or Hindu God al mightieez. Only Bible GodOK even thou i AM a muslim & believe in God....i am also born and bred scientist.....so let me try....
1) in the beginning all matter in the universe was in a giant mass....why was it there.....coz matter has to exist....if not we do not....nor does physics....
2) Due to half-life.....the natural tendency of compact matter/chemicals to lose their properties.....that compact matter....ended in a violent explosion...like sodium in cold water.....or any bomb
3) The matter was scattered through out the universe due to that Big bang....resulting in the galaxies etc.....
4) And in such a galaxy.....we have our solar system.....and the reason life began on earth....due to adaptation....the earth was what is termed as a garden world....plenty of resources....from point A-B.....the first form of life began in earth's sea....a simple cell that moved towards another point drawn by a chemical wish....to preserve its form.....
5) and so life began...it adapted....other life forms evolved.....all in the name of survival of the fittest.....
i do not want to ask this...but as a God believing man...how can you explain adaptation........as God created us shouldn't we stay the same?....why did most life forms change and adapt....?
PS...did you know that certain astronomers believe the universe will go through a big crunch....the entire universe will traveling at great speed back to the point of the Big bang....
regardless.....in a few billion years...our galaxy is to collide & merge with another galaxy the Andromeda galaxy.....if that happens our solar system will be wiped out.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Crunch
you came close enough! but this is not the exact answer for my question. scientists are still struggling to to get an answer for this question. lets see how matti puusa is going to answer this question.
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lol....he is just toying with you...he has been giving you answers all this time...you never understood....
lol....he is just toying with you...he has been giving you answers all this time...you never understood....
no he didnt! go to the 1st page of this thread and check my question again. no one can give a straight forward answer for this question. there are so many unexplained mysteries in this world! this is one of it. anyway! lets see how matti puusa is going to answer my question.
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lol..he never gives straight answers...lol.....you have to learn to read between the lines....
lol..he never gives straight answers...lol.....you have to learn to read between the lines....
i have been doing research about evolution for a very long time. it explains nothing in my point of view. let me make things simple this time.
how can something come out of nothing ? what is the beginning point of everything ?
the beginning point is simply....matter.....if matter didn't exist no us....who put the matter there?.....nobody....matter exists....that is the world....that is physics....
matter that exploded...like our sun will.....in a few billion years....
so as a person defending religion in this debate.....if god created us...why do we evolve?
the beginning point is simply....matter.....if matter didn't exist no us....who put the matter there?.....nobody....matter exists....that is the world....that is physics....
matter that exploded...like our sun will.....in a few billion years....
so as a person defending religion in this debate.....if god created us...why do we evolve?
the beginning point is simply....matter.....if matter didn't exist no us....who put the matter there?.....nobody....matter exists....that is the world....that is physics..
true enough up to a certain extent! what is this "matter" ?
is it GOD ?
is it Something else ?
is it some higher power that we wont be able to understand ? ( higher power = god ?
can you explain this ?
the beginning point is simply....matter.....if matter didn't exist no us....who put the matter there?.....nobody....matter exists....that is the world....that is physics..
true enough up to a certain extent! what is this "matter" ?
is it GOD ?
is it Something else ?
is it some higher power that we wont be able to understand ? ( higher power = god ?
can you explain this ?
lol...dude its the things that make up the universe....not the big empty vacuum...
there is no need of a higher power.....imagine matter as being like our Sun.....a big mass.....a ball of helium & other things that make up the sun...and give it its chemical properties....
like i said...the sun is dying....coz it keeps releasing helium....as the sun uses up that giant reserve of helium...the rest of the chemicals will get into an unbalanced state....and the result is a supernova....
google what supernova is you will understand....
so before the Big bang.....matter existed in one ENORMOUS mass......which existed for how long nobody knows.....but it exploded....and the universe was given give its different properties....
no need for higher power...science has its theories....
and you still haven't told me why we evolve.....
lol...dude its the things that make up the universe....not the big empty vacuum...
there is no need of a higher power.....imagine matter as being like our Sun.....a big mass.....a ball of helium & other things that make up the sun...and give it its chemical properties....
like i said...the sun is dying....coz it keeps releasing helium....as the sun uses up that giant reserve of helium...the rest of the chemicals will get into an unbalanced state....and the result is a supernova....
google what supernova is you will understand....
so before the Big bang.....matter existed in one ENORMOUS mass......which existed for how long nobody knows.....but it exploded....and the universe was given give its different properties....
no need for higher power...science has its theories....
and you still haven't told me why we evolve.....
lol...dude its the things that make up the universe....not the big empty vacuum.
What is it ?
matter is the things that makeup everything from planets to a virus.....
matter is not a being...just the chemicals & metals that form all the things....and matter is constantly recycled.....
the unvirese began with the Big bang....some say we will get pulled back to form a big crunch....in billions of years from now.....and matter will go back to what it was before the Big bang....
like that.......
some scientists say the universe has already under-gone several big bangs and big crunches.....
matter is the things that makeup everything from planets to a virus.....
matter is not a being...just the chemicals & metals that form all the things....and matter is constantly recycled.....
what is the beginning point of these chemicals and metals ?
the beginning point is just that matter....
nothing special......nobody has to create matter.....matter doesn't have a special shape or behavior just its properties.....
no God nothing.....what is clouds......? who creates clouds everyday?
...nobody...clouds form from matter in air....the beginning point is just that matter....
nothing special......nobody has to create matter.....matter doesn't have a special shape or behavior just its properties.....
no God nothing.....what is clouds......? who creates clouds everyday?
What is this "matter" ? how can something come out of nothing ?
now lets take a look at your "cloud" example.
look how amazing is mother nature. unfortunately it is not related to my question.
What is this "matter" ? how can something come out of nothing ?
now lets take a look at your "cloud" example.
look how amazing is mother nature. unfortunately it is not related to my question.
very close too......but there is no mother nature....there is no magic....all logic....logic and rules....
the water cycle....is another example of how the universe conserves its limited matter.....
matter is not nothing.....
matter was there to begin with....just like nobody comes in everyday to form clouds.....and how clouds form on their own..according to its properties & laws....so did matter come to be....
coz of laws...set by the universe & the relations to the universe & matter as a whole....
understand this.....Matter = CO2, O2, HELIUM, WATER, CLOUDS, FIRE, EARTH, THE COMETS WHICH FORM THE RINGS AROUND SATURN & URANUS.....etc etc...
we still have not uncovered all the things that make up matter.....we just know of the ones that make up or solar system for now.....
very close too......but there is no mother nature....there is no magic....all logic....logic and rules....
the water cycle....is another example of how the universe conserves its limited matter.....
matter is not nothing.....
matter was there to begin with....just like nobody comes in everyday to form clouds.....and how clouds form on their own..according to its properties & laws....so did matter come to be....
coz of laws...set by the universe & the relations to the universe & matter as a whole....
understand this.....Matter = CO2, O2, HELIUM, WATER, CLOUDS, FIRE, EARTH, THE COMETS WHICH FORM THE RINGS AROUND SATURN & URANUS.....etc etc...
we still have not uncovered all the things that make up matter.....we just know of the ones that make up or solar system for now.....
Matter = CO2, O2, HELIUM, WATER, CLOUDS, FIRE, EARTH, THE COMETS WHICH FORM THE RINGS AROUND SATURN & URANUS.....etc etc...
what is the beginning point of all of these things ?
so are you accepting that the world have not discovered the answer for my question ? why are you trying to answer something you dont know ?
OMG.....
NO THE WORLD HAS THE ANSWER.....AND THE ANSWER IS JUST LIKE HOW CLOUDS FORM FROM THINGS IN THE AIR & GROUND...SO DID MATTER FORM.....FROM THINGS THAT EXISTED IN THE UNIVERSE & THE LAWS THAT RULED THESE ITEMS......
THERE WAS NO MAGIC KEY TO KICK START THE EXPANSION AND FORMATION OF MATTER...IT FORMS....FROM THINGS ALREADY IN THE UNIVERSE....HOW DID THESE MATTER COME TO BE....FROM ANTI-MATTER......BLACK HOLES....AND THEIR BY-PRODUCTS....
ANTI-MATTER......SIMPLY BLACK HOLES......& WHEN THEY MEET SINGULARITY.....
MINUS + MINUS = PLUS......TWO OR MORE BLACK HOLES MEET....WE GET MATTER......
...SIMPLE THINGS BANZ...YOU KEEP COUNTING YOUR BEANS.....AND NO WE DO NOT KNOW HOW BLACK HOLES COME TO BE....BUT THEY ARE NOT GOD....THEY ARE JUST GIANT ENERGY FIELDS...THAT DRAWS ANYTHING THAT COMES TO CLOSE.....INTO THEMSELVES.....
ANTI-MATTER......SIMPLY BLACK HOLES......& WHEN THEY MEET SINGULARITY.....
MINUS + MINUS = PLUS......TWO OR MORE BLACK HOLES MEET....WE GET MATTER......
AND NO WE DO NOT KNOW HOW BLACK HOLES COME TO BE....BUT THEY ARE NOT GOD....THEY ARE JUST GIANT ENERGY FIELDS...THAT DRAWS ANYTHING THAT COMES TO CLOSE.....INTO THEMSELVES.....
"AND NO WE DO NOT KNOW HOW BLACK HOLES COME TO BE"
i can clearly understand that you got no answer for my question! please don't distract my question with other unwanted answers! be straight forward and answer my question. don't forget to check my question on the 1st page of this thread. this discussion has gone so far without any proper answer.
