Prophet Muhammad and child marriages

[AncientGlory]

I just found out that Prophet married his wife when she was 6.

What are your opinions about this muslim brothers and sisters?

Is this right? Isn't this rape?

What is the reflection of this act in the modern Islamic society?

 

[amila_90210]

Let them justify or whatever...Then we can discuss( if they really wanna discuss)


Though definitions vary, rape is defined in most jurisdictions as sexual intercourse, or other forms of sexual penetration, by one person ("the accused" or "the perpetrator") with or against another person ("the victim") without the consent of the victim.

The matter of 'consent' arises only when the raped individual is above the age of sixteen (16) years.

 

[AncientGlory]

The matter of 'consent' arises only when the raped individual is above the age of sixteen (16) years.

This is true. I'm really interested to see modern sri lankan Islamic idea about this.

 

[IcedEarth]

I just found out that Prophet married his wife when she was 6.

What are your opinions about this muslim brothers and sisters?

Is this right? Isn't this rape?

What is the reflection of this act in the modern Islamic society?

 

[sirajstc]

A Detailed analysis of the Prophet's Marriage to Aisha

This site including myself have already written a couple of articles regarding the prophet's marriage to Aisha, however so I thought it would be helpful of me if I wrote a detailed article on this marriage discussing the marriage and why it was something normal back then and nothing strange or bad.

1- Did the Prophet Marry Aisha at the age of 6?

Authentic Hadith reports do show us that the prophet Muhammad did marry Aisha at the age of 6, but they also show the consummation of the marriage was complete when she was 9 years old.


Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

Now some may object to this by saying how could the Prophet marry Aisha at such a young age. One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago.
Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history.
Furthermore as to the prophets Marriage with Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage. Now some may say how does a girl go through puberty at the age of 9? :

When does puberty start? Although puberty usually starts between ages 8 to 13 in girls, it may start earlier or later. Everyone's body changes at a different time. Whether you have breasts at age 10 or have not started your period by age 14, do not worry. Everyone goes through puberty eventually. (http://www.healthtouch.com/bin/EContent_HT/cnoteShowLfts.asp?fname=07103&title=PUBERTY+IN+GIRLS+&cid=HTHLTH)

So note, a period for a girl occurs from the age of 8 to 14, though this is not always the case as a girl can also start her period by 14 or maybe 15. However so for Aisha it is most likely her puberty started at 8, and continued till she was 9, and once she was going through puberty and her menses, this made her a lady and not a girl anymore since she was fit for a baby therefore she is no child anymore.
In fact early symptoms of a girl going through puberty is described as:
You may get PMS. PMS or "premenstrual syndrome" is a group of changes you may see and feel before your period. You may have headaches, dizziness, or feel sick to your stomach before your period. You may feel like crying more, feel a little sad, and feel more emotional about everything. PMS may cause you to retain (hold onto) water. Retaining water means that your body tries to keep more body fluid in before and during your period. This may make your breasts tender and cause you to feel bloated, restless, or grumpy.

If we read the hadiths, we find that right before Aisha got married off to the prophet that she was sick and not feeling to well:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

So as we can see, Aisha got ill and her body was going through some changes, indicating that she was going through her puberty. In fact during puberty a girl will want to be away from her family, meaning her mother and father:


Want to be away from your family: During puberty, you may want to spend most of your time with friends instead of family members. You may feel embarrassed by your family or parents. You may feel like your parents have no idea what you are going through during puberty. It is normal for you to want to be with and dress like your friends most of the time. Just remember that sometime your family may be a better support for you than your friends. (http://www.healthtouch.com/bin/EContent_HT/cnoteShowLfts.asp?fname=07103&title=PUBERTY+IN+GIRLS+&cid=HTHLTH)

More Info visit here

http://muslim-responses.com/Marriage_with_Aisha/Marriage_with_Aisha_

 

[IcedEarth]

onna ithin ayeth copy paste kala!!!!

 

[sirajstc]

One of the most common polemic thrown against Islam is the prophet Muhammad’s marriage to Abu Bakr’s daughter Aisha. The Anti-Islamic’s claim that the marriage was very wrong due to Aisha’s young age.
I will not be going through this subject in vast detail since the topic has already been sufficiently dealt with. What I will be doing is to simply give a short summary of points which refutes the entire anti-Islamic’s position. This will make it easier for Muslims in the future to be able to respond to Christians who bring this argument up.


1- If the marriage was so wrong, then why didn’t Aisha’s mother object to the marriage? Instead she happily gave Aisha for marriage, and prepared her for the marriage


2- Why didn’t Abu bakr the father of Aisha object to the marriage? If it was so wrong you would expect the father to have not allowed such a marriage to take place.


3- Why did the women who were present with Aisha when she was about to be given to the prophet for marriage wished her luck and were happy for her. If the marriage was wrong, the women present would have been sad, and they would not have been happy for Aisha, rather what we see is that they were happy for Aisha and had no problems with this marriage whatsoever.


4- Are we supposed to assume that Abu Bakr, and Aisha’s mother, and the women present with Aisha are all pedophiles and child molesters? Indeed such a conclusion with be very ignorant, and arrogant.


5- Why didn’t any of the prophet’s enemies use this against the prophet Muhammad? If the marriage was so wrong, then you would expect to find his enemies to be the first ones to start using this against him, instead what we find is that his enemies NEVER EVEN ONCE brought this marriage up in a negative way against him.


6- In fact why didn’t any of the Arabs around the Hijazi area object or talk against this marriage? It was not only the pagan Arabs in Hijaz who didn’t object to this marriage, but the surrounding Arabs didn’t object to it neither!


7- Are we to assume that ALL these Arabs were pedophiles and child molesters? Indeed such a conclusion would make the one making this conclusion a very stupid man, because only a very stupid arrogant man would accuse an entire race of being child molesters and pedophiles.

8- Why is there not a SINGLE hadith from Aisha showing her being displeased of the marriage? Why is there not one hadith from Aisha showing her to be like a victim, instead when you look at Aisha you find no symptoms of a victim. She became a great leader for Islam, a great scholar for Islam who would teach about Islam to many men. Does this seem to be the symptoms of someone who has been abused?


9-If Aisha was indeed a victim and so on, then why did she love the prophet Muhammad so much, and would sometimes get jelous around him because she loved him so much, does this sound like someone who is a victim?


10- from all the hadith literature we have, we can confidently say that if Aisha was alive today, that she would distance herself from these Christians making these sick arguments, and that she would want nothing to do with these people, this in itself speaks volumes since these people making this sick argument are supposed to be the good guys who are trying to be helpful.



All these points made here are enough to refute the Anti-Islamic’s entire position, and they themselves know this. I could show more points, showing that the age of marriage in the past used to be at a very young age, something history agrees with, but these Anti-Islamic’s are so hate filled and arrogant they will say ALL OF HISTORY is wrong but only today in our modern world we are right. Yet if we look at our modern world, we are a disgrace, and the past is much better than us, look at us today in the modern world. You have men marrying each other; you have late night television showing people having sex like animals doing all sort of sick things. You have people dropping atomic bombs on each other; you have countries invading other countries to take all their natural resources. And this is just the tip of the ice-berg, much more bad things could be said about our modern world, but something which I do find interesting is most of the bad things occurring in our modern world is a result of western Christian influenced societies, that says it all.


More Info
http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/w...y_right__what_about_paedophilia___by_dan_1988



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[ela_eluwa120]

onna ithin ayeth copy paste kala!!!!

 

[khanjin]

this particular information was initially informed by a companion of prophet muhammed, while he was in old age, in basra(modern Iraq), during that time we was suffered from memory loss almost similar to Parkinson decease.

while we analyst the all information gathered now, when prophet mohamed marry aisha, she was either 16 or 17yrs old.

for an example i give some information to analyst by yourself. ABU BAKR HAS 2 DAUGHTER ELDER IS ASMA AND 2ND AISHA, BOTH 10 YEARS DIFFERENT, ASMA HAS DIED IN HER 100TH YRS OLD IN AFTER HIJRI 73, THEN ASMA WAS 27YRS OLD(100-73=27) WHEN PROPHET MOHAMED MAKE HIJRATH(MIGRATION), THEN AISHA SHOULD 17 YRS OLD(27-10=17), PROPHET MUHAMMED HAS MARRIED AISHA 1YEAR BEFORE MAKE HIJRATH(MIGRATION).

analyst yourself

 

[AncientGlory]

1- Did the Prophet Marry Aisha at the age of 6?

Authentic Hadith reports do show us that the prophet Muhammad did marry Aisha at the age of 6, but they also show the consummation of the marriage was complete when she was 9 years old.

Thank you for the answer. This explains it. Muhammad married Aisha at the age of 6 and had sex with her at the age of 9.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:
Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

I appreciate your effort sirajstc. But all this is not necessary. I was just asking what you thought, not what's in the quaran. It is sufficient giving phrases from the quran or from hadiths when its only necessary.

Now some may object to this by saying how could the Prophet marry Aisha at such a young age. One must first understand that 1400 years ago was very different than now, times have changed and so have humans. 1400 years ago it was something very common to marry young girls, in fact they were not considered young girls, rather they were considered young women back then. It is a historic fact that girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa, in fact even in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married just more than a century ago.
Yet with these facts no historian claims that all these people were sick perverts, historians would call anyone who made such a claim to be arrogant and very stupid who has no grasp or understanding of history.
Furthermore as to the prophets Marriage with Aisha, something people will notice is that the completion of the marriage was done when Aisha was 9 years old, not when she was 6, and there is a reason for that. The reason why this happened is because Aisha had been through puberty by the age of 9, and in Islam a female who under-goes puberty is considered a lady and is fit for marriage. Now some may say how does a girl go through puberty at the age of 9? :

Fair Enough. So according to you the child marriages were ok at that time, and it was not considered rape. Even a middle age man marrying a 9 year old girl was not considered immoral. Fair enough. It was a long time ago right?

Now the most important question. Is this suitable for today? What is your opinion on that?

 

[AncientGlory]

this particular information was initially informed by a companion of prophet muhammed, while he was in old age, in basra(modern Iraq), during that time we was suffered from memory loss almost similar to Parkinson decease.

while we analyst the all information gathered now, when prophet mohamed marry aisha, she was either 16 or 17yrs old.

for an example i give some information to analyst by yourself. ABU BAKR HAS 2 DAUGHTER ELDER IS ASMA AND 2ND AISHA, BOTH 10 YEARS DIFFERENT, ASMA HAS DIED IN HER 100TH YRS OLD IN AFTER HIJRI 73, THEN ASMA WAS 27YRS OLD(100-73=27) WHEN PROPHET MOHAMED MAKE HIJRATH(MIGRATION), THEN AISHA SHOULD 17 YRS OLD(27-10=17), PROPHET MUHAMMED HAS MARRIED AISHA 1YEAR BEFORE MAKE HIJRATH(MIGRATION).

analyst yourself

I agree with you. I also found some evidence suggesting that Aisha might have been older than 6 at the time of her marriage.

But please answer this question.

Some people believe that Muhammad married Aisha at the age of 6 and consummated the marriage at the age of 9. So maybe you believe something else, but Do you think it is ok to continue with child marriages today???

 

[AncientGlory]

1- If the marriage was so wrong, then why didn’t Aisha’s mother object to the marriage? Instead she happily gave Aisha for marriage, and prepared her for the marriage

2- Why didn’t Abu bakr the father of Aisha object to the marriage? If it was so wrong you would expect the father to have not allowed such a marriage to take place.

These two question has no meaning or value, It is a fact that through out the world today, it is the parent who gives away a child to a grown man, with out her consent. That is just how parents behave in some countries.

In fact my question is also the same, why did Aisha's mother and farther let it happen? More interestingly did they think they were doing the right thing?

3- Why did the women who were present with Aisha when she was about to be given to the prophet for marriage wished her luck and were happy for her. If the marriage was wrong, the women present would have been sad, and they would not have been happy for Aisha, rather what we see is that they were happy for Aisha and had no problems with this marriage whatsoever.

To be honest my friend I'm amazed at the lack of logic in your questions.

Machan a persons behaviour or how she/he act in public has no reflection on what is right or wrong.

For an example: their are two thieves who are best friends, they walk in the market and one of them says he's gonna break in to someone's home and kill him tonight, other being another thief laughs at this and wishes him good luck. All the people in the market sees that he is laughing and wishing and does this mean the thief is doing a good thing? Just because his friend was laughing and looked happy?

The other thing, just because something is written in a book does not make it true. A book will only reflect a biased idea of the writer no matter what the truth is. See where I'm going with this? Just because a book says that Aisha and her friends were happy about her marriage does not make it true. The truth is we will never know. Maybe she was happy. But that is not the issue here. We are talking about is it moral for a middle aged man to marry a 6 year old girl? What is the reflection of that act in the modern society.

4- Are we supposed to assume that Abu Bakr, and Aisha’s mother, and the women present with Aisha are all pedophiles and child molesters? Indeed such a conclusion with be very ignorant, and arrogant.

Indeed we are to assume that(Only Muhammad, who carried out the act and her parents who permited it in the first place, what does other women has to do with it??) if the same laws and ethics and the sense of morality was there at those times. But since you say it was a different time frame and since I see logic in it, I'm gonna go with no here.

5- Why didn’t any of the prophet’s enemies use this against the prophet Muhammad? If the marriage was so wrong, then you would expect to find his enemies to be the first ones to start using this against him, instead what we find is that his enemies NEVER EVEN ONCE brought this marriage up in a negative way against him.

6- In fact why didn’t any of the Arabs around the Hijazi area object or talk against this marriage? It was not only the pagan Arabs in Hijaz who didn’t object to this marriage, but the surrounding Arabs didn’t object to it neither!

You yourself said it was normal at the time right? So why would anyone object?

What you need to understand is that I was not accusing anyone about anything. I just asked some simple questions to understand something I did not know.

When you hear of something like that, you just wonder, did this people have a sense of what's right or wrong?

And what has it done to modern society?

7- Are we to assume that ALL these Arabs were pedophiles and child molesters?

No.

8- Why is there not a SINGLE hadith from Aisha showing her being displeased of the marriage? Why is there not one hadith from Aisha showing her to be like a victim, instead when you look at Aisha you find no symptoms of a victim. She became a great leader for Islam, a great scholar for Islam who would teach about Islam to many men. Does this seem to be the symptoms of someone who has been abused?

9-If Aisha was indeed a victim and so on, then why did she love the prophet Muhammad so much, and would sometimes get jelous around him because she loved him so much, does this sound like someone who is a victim?

Again a question with no logic. Firstly whatever Aisha was feeling or was showing has nothing to do with what is right or wrong. That is why intercourse with a woman under 16 with or without her consent is considered rape. Those laws are their to ensure the well being of the society.

Secondly agian evidence from books???

Thirdly, the question is not about Aisha liked it or not. It's about do you think it is ok for a middle aged man to marry a 6 year old girl. We are not talking about what the girl think. We are talking about what is moral and what is not.

10- from all the hadith literature we have, we can confidently say that if Aisha was alive today, that she would distance herself from these Christians making these sick arguments, and that she would want nothing to do with these people, this in itself speaks volumes since these people making this sick argument are supposed to be the good guys who are trying to be helpful.

Hmm, I'm sure you dont believe that. We can never be sure what she would say if she was alive today. To be honest this question is not even worth our time. Just drop this part.

All these points made here are enough to refute the Anti-Islamic’s entire position, and they themselves know this. I could show more points, showing that the age of marriage in the past used to be at a very young age, something history agrees with, but these Anti-Islamic’s are so hate filled and arrogant they will say ALL OF HISTORY is wrong but only today in our modern world we are right. Yet if we look at our modern world, we are a disgrace, and the past is much better than us, look at us today in the modern world. You have men marrying each other; you have late night television showing people having sex like animals doing all sort of sick things. You have people dropping atomic bombs on each other; you have countries invading other countries to take all their natural resources. And this is just the tip of the ice-berg, much more bad things could be said about our modern world, but something which I do find interesting is most of the bad things occurring in our modern world is a result of western Christian influenced societies, that says it all.

There are some interesting points here, that we can discuss. But not here, off topic.

You are going too far assuming that this thread is accusing someone. I'm just investigating a historical event, and trying to understand what lead to such an event. More importantly why is it so important to us today, even when it happend so long ago, and at the time it was maybe not considered immoral.

Lets stay on the topic.

 

[Idi Amin]

I agree with you. I also found some evidence suggesting that Aisha might have been older than 6 at the time of her marriage.

But please answer this question.

Some people believe that Muhammad married Aisha at the age of 6 and consummated the marriage at the age of 9. So maybe you believe something else, but Do you think it is ok to continue with child marriages today???

wot is ur definition of a child?

As soon as a child attains age (around the ages 9-11)she is ready to conceive.

Please answer my question above....

 

[AncientGlory]

wot is ur definition of a child?

As soon as a child attains age (around the ages 9-11)she is ready to conceive.

Please answer my question above....

Hmm I was referring to the people who are not legally adults in the modern society, When I say child marriages, I'm talking about marrying a person who is not legally an adult.

Now can you answer my question? Is it right for prophet Muhammad to marry a girl of 6?

Do you think there's any impact of this act in the modern society?

 

[Idi Amin]

Hmm I was referring to the people who are not legally adults in the modern society, When I say child marriages, I'm talking about marrying a person who is not legally an adult.

Now can you answer my question? Is it right for prophet Muhammad to marry a girl of 6?

Do you think there's any impact of this act in the modern society?

The legal boundaries has been created to suite the present culture...the culture was different those days..people married early...The prophet only lived with her after the age of 9.

Ok if you are so concerned about this ...how can you justify the old sinhalese sharing ttheir wifes with the visitors who come to visit them......as documented by robert knox...can you shed some light please?????

 

[Arampanawa]

As soon as a child attains age (around the ages 9-11)she is ready to conceive.

boru kiyanna epa halo

 

[AncientGlory]

The legal boundaries has been created to suite the present culture...the culture was different those days..people married early...The prophet only lived with her after the age of 9.

So???

if you read the things I have posted before, I have agreed that the times were different and maybe things were different.

Ok if you are so concerned about this ...

Who says I'm concerned?? Maybe I am maybe I'm not. At the moment I'm just asking few questions to clarify things. It is a way that we learn.

how can you justify the old sinhalese sharing ttheir wifes with the visitors who come to visit them......as documented by robert knox...

Now this is really funny. Why the hell do I want to justify something, someone did some time ago? In fact what business is it of me to justify someone's actions if he did them today???? I dont speak for them.

can you shed some light please?????

I think I just did. BTW I did not fail to notice that you did not answer my questions. Think about that. Don't go off topic.

 

[Idi Amin]

So???

if you read the things I have posted before, I have agreed that the times were different and maybe things were different.




Who says I'm concerned?? Maybe I am maybe I'm not. At the moment I'm just asking few questions to clarify things. It is a way that we learn.



Now this is really funny. Why the hell do I want to justify something, someone did some time ago? In fact what business is it of me to justify someone's actions if he did them today???? I dont speak for them.



I think I just did. BTW I did not fail to notice that you did not answer my questions. Think about that. Don't go off topic.

I thought u were rational...thanx for proving me wrong...ur the same as ur clan..good day bye

 

[AncientGlory]

I thought u were rational...thanx for proving me wrong...ur the same as ur clan..good day bye

You are quite welcome! and Good day. bye.

For the record Not the first time someone ran away. That happens.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

The legal boundaries has been created to suite the present culture...

Who created them? GOD or some crazy mulla in saudi..you mean present legal boundaries are man made?? ah? why suddenly you fear to follow muhammed??

the culture was different those days..people married early...The prophet only lived with her after the age of 9.

Ah?? so Gods prophet was not a model to follow?? Gods prophet's actions were dependent on pagen culture ?? and God didnt stop him?? that means Allah the GOD's word is not timeless?? it can and should change ??

Ok if you are so concerned about this ...how can you justify the old sinhalese sharing ttheir wifes with the visitors who come to visit them......as documented by robert knox...can you shed some light please?????

Hey Idiot! how can you compare the GODs so called LASt prophet enjoying pedophelia and a distant sri lankan practise? you dont have the basic logical skills.