What evidence for GOD

[AncientGlory]

A simple question, anyone has any evidence for GOD's existance?

I start the thread by saying I agree that there's no evidence that suggests GOD does not exist either. But the topic is what evidence for GOD?

When I say GOD I mean the creator GOD mostly found in Abrahmic Religions.

 

[njsa]

for allah the evidence we can show u is our quran.

 

[sirajstc]

for allah the evidence we can show u is our quran.

 

[Oyage_sudu_kolla]

for flying spaghetti monster the evidence we can show you is our gospel of flying spaghetti monster

 

[Hettiarachi]

for flying spaghetti monster we can shoe you is our gospel of flying spaghetti monster

I'm God. I have my own Gospel in my home...

 

[Flying_Spaghetti_Monster]

Me: Show me the evidence that Allah is real.
Muslim: Kay.

Me: Show me the evidence that FSM is real.
Pastafarian: Kay.​

​

Therefore, FSM is real.
​

 

[Oyage_sudu_kolla]

I'm God. I have my own Gospel in my home...

oh man you will be burn in hell...

 

[AncientGlory]

for allah the evidence we can show u is our quran.

Why do you say quran in evidence?

 

[AncientGlory]

for flying spaghetti monster the evidence we can show you is our gospel of flying spaghetti monster

BTW I have a pdf of this, It's kinda hilarious. The first and only gospel ever written that is fun to read.

 

[njsa]

Why do you say quran in evidence?

hope these articles i had given help u understand what i said.


http://www.articlesbase.com/religion-articles/quran-is-the-unique-book-98176.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/religion-articles/who-wrote-the-holy-quran-4216055.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/free-articles/the-canadian-professor-who-challenged-the-quran-embraced-islam-1924070.html

 

[RAT 16F88]

there are plenty of evidence tht God dont exist

 

[AncientGlory]

hope these articles i had given help u understand what i said.


http://www.articlesbase.com/religion-articles/quran-is-the-unique-book-98176.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/religion-articles/who-wrote-the-holy-quran-4216055.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/free-articles/the-canadian-professor-who-challenged-the-quran-embraced-islam-1924070.html

Not really. I can understand the opinion of the author and where he comes from, since he obviously has a biased view toward the Islam.

But all of these leads to a conclusion based on an assumption made by muslims that quaran is the greatest book ever written and there's no one can write something better.

Evidence should be evidence. And above is not evidence but an idea developed by assumptions.

 

[AncientGlory]

there are plenty of evidence tht God dont exist

Care to give one?

 

[njsa]

Not really. I can understand the opinion of the author and where he comes from, since he obviously has a biased view toward the Islam.

But all of these leads to a conclusion based on an assumption made by muslims that quaran is the greatest book ever written and there's no one can write something better.

Evidence should be evidence. And above is not evidence but an idea developed by assumptions.

i think u dont read the threads often here as here always get discuss abt the status of quran...there are many non muslims who agree with quran, some are there who talk against the quran and later come to islam.

author is not biased,but u. u want to read only what u want to hear!!

 

[AncientGlory]

i think u dont read the threads often here as here always get discuss abt the status of quran...there are many non muslims who agree with quran, some are there who talk against the quran and later come to islam.

author is not biased,but u. u want to read only what u want to hear!!

Yeah maybe I missed out such threads. Can you direct me to couple of them?

I'm not biased since I have the ability to keep an open mind. As a muslim you don't have it since doubting your GOD is a sin. There's nothing to argue about it. If you say the author who is a muslim is not biased and that my view is biased, I think you lost your rational thinking right there and are trying to let your emotions overcome this discussion. I thought you are one of those few muslims I met here who can actually think. But guess I'm wrong.

 

[njsa]

Yeah maybe I missed out such threads. Can you direct me to couple of them?

i have mentioned some threads here,but not everything exactly related to the matter.i hope u will like to see some threds which could be useful!

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=799338
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=823984

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=779479&page=11
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735864
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=688814

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668993
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=182173
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252826

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735864

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=265425&page=3

I'm not biased since I have the ability to keep an open mind.

u just telling ur keeping an open mind.but i dont really see that in ur posts.

As a muslim you don't have it since doubting your GOD is a sin. There's nothing to argue about it.

u got that wrong.person become a Muslim when he realize the god and believe in him. so telling that doubting god is a sin doesn't suits with Islam.a person cant be a Muslim who dont believe in god.i remember already discussed a similar thing in a thread earlier.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7418469#post7418469


If you say the author who is a muslim is not biased and that my view is biased, I think you lost your rational thinking right there and are trying to let your emotions overcome this discussion. I thought you are one of those few muslims I met here who can actually think. But guess I'm wrong.

i noticed ur replies many times and i felt clearly that ur not with a open mind.ur biased to ur view.dont see the author,see what he is telling correct or not.if u feel its wrong check with some other books u prefer.compare and get clear ur self!!
mm ..may b ur wrong. even i thought ur very few non muslims who actually try to discuss something about islam other than just abusing.but i think im wrong as well.u dont want to get agree with anything even its correct.

 

[AncientGlory]

i have mentioned some threads here,but not everything exactly related to the matter.i hope u will like to see some threds which could be useful!

Actually I asked you for threads where many non muslims agreed with quaran.

Interestingly from the threads you mentioned, I have participated in 8 or so threads and two of them were created by me. I never found any of those non muslims that agreed with quran.

And here's the good part. In one of the threads I actually found a discussion where I agreed with a muslim.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7718579&postcount=44

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7724691&postcount=50

u just telling ur keeping an open mind.but i dont really see that in ur posts.

So?

u got that wrong.person become a Muslim when he realize the god and believe in him. so telling that doubting god is a sin doesn't suits with Islam.a person cant be a Muslim who dont believe in god.i remember already discussed a similar thing in a thread earlier.

Proving my point that every muslim is close minded and biased. They cannot have an unbiased view or opinion about GOD. They do not have the ability to look at it on both ends. But I do.

For an example. Here are two posts that I argued for the GOD concept.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8728277&postcount=22

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8723664&postcount=7

i noticed ur replies many times and i felt clearly that ur not with a open mind.ur biased to ur view.dont see the author,see what he is telling correct or not.if u feel its wrong check with some other books u prefer.compare and get clear ur self!!
mm ..may b ur wrong. even i thought ur very few non muslims who actually try to discuss something about islam other than just abusing.but i think im wrong as well.u dont want to get agree with anything even its correct.

Well the thing is what you think does not make a difference to me. The problem you have is that not only you believe that you are correct but you fail to see that your belief is not based on evidence but faith. You cannot grasp the fact that there is a margin of error for such a belief. There is a probability that it might go wrong. So you think that whatever proof, you bring as proof should convince me and if I say "I'm not convinced" I'm close minded according to you. How would you expect me to agree on anything just because you think it's correct?

 

[njsa]

Actually I asked you for threads where many non muslims agreed with quaran.
Interestingly from the threads you mentioned, I have participated in 8 or so threads and two of them were created by me. I never found any of those non muslims that agreed with quran.
And here's the good part. In one of the threads I actually found a discussion where I agreed with a muslim.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7718579&postcount=44
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7724691&postcount=50

i think i made a mistake writing that sentence or u understood it in a wrong way.i told we often discuss here and the second one was not about what happen in those threads.it was about where u told the articles biased people.anyway sorry if i made a mistake explaining there.
anyway there is onlyone thread i remember where a non muslim agreed with a one point.
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246558&page=12]
here its very difficult to make one agree with a point coz they are not generous enough to agree if feel that their wrong.only thing do is scolding with some abusive words and run!!


So?

nothing.just stop telling that ur here discussing with an open mind.
Proving my point that every muslim is close minded and biased. They cannot have an unbiased view or opinion about GOD. They do not have the ability to look at it on both ends. But I do.

For an example. Here are two posts that I argued for the GOD concept.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8728277&postcount=22

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8723664&postcount=7

yes,because a person become a muslim when he get to know the reality of those both ends.if he is in confusion he is not a muslim till he find the answer.so when ur telling muslim is not able to be look doesnt make sense.he is a muslim because he found that to be the correct one.

oWell the thing is what you think does not make a difference to me. The problem you have is that not only you believe that you are correct but you fail to see that your belief is not based on evidence but faith.

not us but u think ur correct always..there are evidence where u dont agree.so its wrong that u telling us that we belive only with the faith.we provide u eveidence but ur not ready to accept.

Yu cannot grasp the fact that there is a margin of error for such a belief.

what about u.if ur thinking that there is no god.cant there b an error on whay ur thinking.we clarified it and believe that there are no errors.u do clarify about ur believe.i know ur not sure about it.thats why u still with an open mind searching for it.

There is a probability that it might go wrong. So you think that whatever proof, you bring as proof should convince me and if I say "I'm not convinced" I'm close minded according to you. How would you expect me to agree on anything just because you think it's correct?

no use in calling u as there is no compaltion in religion.you can choose what ever u want.when we dont agree with ur point u used to call us close minded or brain washed.u think ur with an open mind when its not.thats the thing u have correct.just agree that ur strong with ur point.ur mind is shaking.not sure and strong with ur faith.but we are sure and strong.everyday my faith is getting stronger and stronger.i get to know many things which i didnt know earlier.so thats the reason why islam tells to read the quran and understand.i know many faiths where the leaders stop providing the sctripurs to the normal people.in islam its not the case.anyone can read and check if they have doubts.!!

 

[AncientGlory]

so when ur telling muslim is not able to be look doesnt make sense.he is a muslim because he found that to be the correct one

When did I say muslims can't look?
My point is very simple, but it is clear that with your limited thinking you can't grasp it. I was talking about the GOD concept and that there's no way for a muslim to have an open mind about it. You are not open to any idea other than GOD exists. So you are close minded to that. There's nothing to argue about it.

not us but u think ur correct always..there are evidence where u dont agree.so its wrong that u telling us that we belive only with the faith.we provide u eveidence but ur not ready to accept

How many times I have to tell you, The evidence that you think is evidence is not evidence to others. How can someone who can't even understand this simple thing, can really come up with evidence for anything I wonder.

what about u.if ur thinking that there is no god.cant there b an error on whay ur thinking.we clarified it and believe that there are no errors.u do clarify about ur believe.i know ur not sure about it.thats why u still with an open mind searching for it.

What about me? I'm not close minded like you. I'm open to all the ideas. And I know there are errors in my thinking. Just not when it comes to people like you, who think "The book is correct because the book says so" and present it as logic.

when we dont agree with ur point u used to call us close minded

Hypocrisy at it's best.

u think ur with an open mind when its not.thats the thing u have correct.just agree that ur strong with ur point.ur mind is shaking.not sure and strong with ur faith.

I don't know what's your point here. I don't have a faith. I don't rest things on faith blindly like you do. And I was not forced a religion from birth like you were. I have an open mind to think about things. It is not a sin to doubt about what I believe. I can choose to believe in GOD or not anyday I want. You don't have that option, coz you are so close minded to such ideas. Your thinking is so limited that you think, what you think is right and whatever argument you bring to prove your point is concrete and serves as evidence and everyone should believe it. If I make a mistake I accept it and apologize. There are plenty of times I have done this. But you don't even have that chance coz in your limited frame, you cannot make a mistake about the GOD because that would make you a sinner. So you are forced to continue blindly and you are stupid enough to think this is my faith growing everyday.

 

[njsa]

When did I say muslims can't look?

Proving my point that every muslim is close minded and biased. They cannot have an unbiased view or opinion about GOD.

doesnt this mentioned by u on an earlier post????????so this is where u telling that muslims cant look things with an open mind.right?

My point is very simple, but it is clear that with your limited thinking you can't grasp it. I was talking about the GOD concept and that there's no way for a muslim to have an open mind about it. You are not open to any idea other than GOD exists. So you are close minded to that. There's nothing to argue about it.

im telling u clearly that any one can think about god,have doubts.there is a point where he comes that all of his doubt get clear.he get an strong faith on his believe.that is where he become a Muslim.so a person who is Muslim and open mind are two different things.
there are many non Muslims who studied about other faiths and at-last became Muslim.and after that there are clear and strong with their faith.so what u have to say about them.u still with an open mind,coz u have doubts.but for a muslim he become muslim when he clear with all the doubts.

muslim means the person who submitted his will to god.so how can he submitt his will to a doubtful god.i hope u understand that its not that muslims have any rule like that.i already had told u its not haram to discuss about religion.u can doubt,ask questios.no harm in that.coz islam is strong.

How many times I have to tell you, The evidence that you think is evidence is not evidence to others. How can someone who can't even understand this simple thing, can really come up with evidence for anything I wonder.

yes..yes.i know about it.and the evidence u think wrong can be a correct evidence as well....so understand that first.dont think ur always Mr.correct.

What about me? I'm not close minded like you. I'm open to all the ideas. And I know there are errors in my thinking. Just not when it comes to people like you, who think "The book is correct because the book says so" and present it as logic.

this is what u think about us.u think we defending a book.first understand that we are not like how u think.this is a very important place where u have to correct ur thinking error.muslims discuss,ask questions and i found its logical for me to believe in islam. so omit from ur mind that muslims just believe bacause their book says so!!and tell me whats wrong in believing in a book if its correct.if u think its wrong prove us.will discuss!!
u know zakir naik tells that provide me a verse from bible where Jesus is telling he is god or asking to worship him and if so he ready to accept Christianity.its a challenge and this shows that islam is not allow us to ask questions.

Hypocrisy at it's best.
i can see that from ur replies!!

I don't know what's your point here. I don't have a faith. I don't rest things on faith blindly like you do.

u thinking that we follow blindly. can u clarify me how and why u think this??????

And I was not forced a religion from birth like you were. I have an open mind to think about things. It is not a sin to doubt about what I believe. I can choose to believe in GOD or not anyday I want. You don't have that option, coz you are so close minded to such ideas.

.yes of cource im a born muslim.my parents wanted me to guide me in way which will lead me to have a good life.and when i grow up i understood,compared my life with others.and so much satisfied with my faith.and when i m telling this u dont agree.so what can i do for that!!

what u have to say about the converts from other faiths?????????why they come to islam? and also what about the people who leave islam.

Your thinking is so limited that you think, what you think is right and whatever argument you bring to prove your point is concrete and serves as evidence and everyone should believe it.

i never force u to believe in it.believing it or not is up to u.but defenietly im trying to prove my point and u dont agree.thats it.as per u if ur telling that that their is not god do i have to shut my mouth and wait..is that what u want...cant i explain anything.then whats the reason of starting this thread.

If I make a mistake I accept it and apologize. There are plenty of times I have done this. But you don't even have that chance coz in your limited frame, you cannot make a mistake about the GOD because that would make you a sinner.

a person become a muslim afer he believe and identify god.so no point in talking about this with u unless u understand it.if i get doubtsim not a muslim so he should try to clear his doubts.if he is ok and find the answers logical he can again come to islam and become a muslim.if not he can leave.thats it.from the view of a muslim the person who left islam is sinner.
a teacher teaches a child that 2+2 is = 4.and the student doesnt agree with the teacher.so who is in the lost here.

so you are forced to continue blindly and you are stupid enough to think this is my faith growing everyday.
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it will not make us a sinner.useless explaining to u this.coz no matter how many times we tell we are not,u will not agree.coz this is very easy and only way how u can defend a muslim.
anyway do any muslims just telling this or arnt this really happening ????tell me.if its true why u think it is stupid to tell.