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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emios" data-source="post: 31498182" data-attributes="member: 254970"><p>i guess i read this correctly,the way you wanted to show. what i meant is the box itself is upadana rupa before labeling it.the materials to construct the boxes are dathu rupa.lets say atoms getting together.cannot see.when atoms get together physical eye is born and the physical box. whether you label it or not doesn't change the upadana rupa. lets say if you dont label it a kid would be rahat.because a new born doesnt know what it is.but hes already on updana level</p></blockquote><p></p>

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