‘Vegetarianism’

Amal

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saharaz said:
EATING NON-VEGETARIAN FOOD

Question:

Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume nonvegetarian food?

Answer:

‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement the world over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights. Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time
Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.

Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.

1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian

A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.

2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:

“O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are
all four-footed animals with the exceptions named.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:1]

“And cattle He has created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth,
and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat.”
[Al-Qur’an 16:5]

“And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their
bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides),
numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat.”
[Al-Qur’an 23:21]

3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.

4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.

5. Human beings can digest both vege-tarian and non-vegetarian
food
The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?

6. Even plants have life
Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not
fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.

7. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above
this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be
heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.

8. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses. Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.

In fact the Qur’an says:

“O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good”
[Al-Qur’an 2:168]

9. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.

10. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Sri Lankan become nonvegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.


Animals have as much right to life as we do. We are just another species on this planet. One day we will also cease to exist, like countless other creatures. The dinosaurs dominated planet earth for millions of years and they all died out.

Don't for a moment think that some magical creature in the sky made everything for humans to use and abuse. If animals were meant to be "used" by man as a gift from "god" then these animals would willingly die so that we can consume them.

Have you come across any animal that willingly dies?

They all struggle to KEEP their life!

As for nutrition... human flesh is supposed to be nutricious too... so should we eat that too?
 
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Animals have as much right to life as we do. We are just another species on this planet. One day we will also cease to exist, like countless other creatures. The dinosaurs dominated planet earth for millions of years and they all died out.

Don't for a moment think that some magical creature in the sky made everything for humans to use and abuse. If animals were meant to be "used" by man as a gift from "god" then these animals would willingly die so that we can consume them.

Have you come across any animal that willingly dies?

They all struggle to KEEP their life!

As for nutrition... human flesh is supposed to be nutricious too... so should we eat that too?

brother i do respect your openion at the same time your comments are totally based on Darwin's Theory ....... with full of darwinism ....

the story made by darwin is not a fact it is only a theory.
so that don't get exited bro.

you are asking me have i come across any animal that willing to die ?

if i say yes would you accept ??? so think a little before you ask somthing.

we muslim have a criteria of animals to eat not all the animals.
 

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saharaz said:
brother i do respect your openion at the same time your comments are totally based on Darwin's Theory ....... with full of darwinism ....

the story made by darwin is not a fact it is only a theory.
so that don't get exited bro.

So tell me... how can you identify between a theory and a fact?

Then we move on to the next question afterwards... :lol:
 

Amal

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brother i do respect your openion at the same time your comments are totally based on Darwin's Theory ....... with full of darwinism ....

the story made by darwin is not a fact it is only a theory.
so that don't get exited bro.

you are asking me have i come across any animal that willing to die ?

if i say yes would you accept ??? so think a little before you ask somthing.

we muslim have a criteria of animals to eat not all the animals.


Buddy, if Allah was "all knowing" then he would have known his creation was going to eat meat and he would have made the animals WILLINGLY die for the humans.

Have you seen animals being slaughtered? Do you think they like it? They do everything in their power to run away from being chopped up. it's pretty obvious they want to LIVE just like we do.

... and yet you claim Allah made it all for humans to use?

Why in the world did Allah give the animals NERVES to feel pain with?

Why did he want to give so much suffering to animals? (and humans!)

So if some alien race came to earth and they followed a religion that said that the entire universe was created for them, you would be ok with them chopping up and eating humans?

 
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Amal said:
Buddy, if Allah was "all knowing" then he would have known his creation was going to eat meat and he would have made the animals WILLINGLY die for the humans.

Have you seen animals being slaughtered? Do you think they like it? They do everything in their power to run away from being chopped up. it's pretty obvious they want to LIVE just like we do.

... and yet you claim Allah made it all for humans to use?

Why in the world did Allah give the animals NERVES to feel pain with?

So if some alien race came to earth and they followed a religion that said that the entire universe was created for them, you would be ok with them chopping up and eating humans?

Hmm... looks like everybody has got the same set of questions for saharaz! :nerd:
 

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Amal said:
Buddy, if Allah was "all knowing" then he would have known his creation was going to eat meat and he would have made the animals WILLINGLY die for the humans.

Have you seen animals being slaughtered? Do you think they like it? They do everything in their power to run away from being chopped up. it's pretty obvious they want to LIVE just like we do.

... and yet you claim Allah made it all for humans to use?

Why in the world did Allah give the animals NERVES to feel pain with?

So if some alien race came to earth and they followed a religion that said that the entire universe was created for them, you would be ok with them chopping up and eating humans?


:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: u r absolutely correct:D :D
 

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Everybody grab a chair, until saharaz does enough research to concoct an answer. It will take hours before he finds and quotes some rubbish from an Islamic site, so a tub of popcorn might be handy too while you wait.
 

Amal

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brother i do respect your openion at the same time your comments are totally based on Darwin's Theory ....... with full of darwinism ....

the story made by darwin is not a fact it is only a theory.
so that don't get exited bro.

you are asking me have i come across any animal that willing to die ?

if i say yes would you accept ??? so think a little before you ask somthing.

we muslim have a criteria of animals to eat not all the animals.

Please tell me you're not going to claim that the dinosaurs never existed?
 

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I asked a question about dinosaurs, and how they fit into the creation theory on another thread, to no avail.

Hope to get some answers regarding that here.
 

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To saharaz-

The only animals I've seen who are willing to die are suicide bombers, here in sri lanka as well as the muslim ones. Are you referring to them?

:D
 

Amal

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nadeeshaF said:
I asked a question about dinosaurs, and how they fit into the creation theory on another thread, to no avail.

Hope to get some answers regarding that here.

I also wanna know if this Allah is "perfect" how he can create imperfection?

How can a perfect creature create imperfection?

Did Allah send down fireballs to kill the dinosaurs?

What about all the other animals that have gone extinct due to the Ice Age etc?

Just some of the questions that pop into my mind.
 

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: "9. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle."

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Machan you are free to tell your ideas but do not insult. Talk to the point.
GTRZ
 

saharaz

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I rated it poor, and stopped watching it after two seconds. No incessant babbling fool can change my mind with regard to what I perceive as morally right or wrong.

that is what your problem...... you make decission very hurrryyyy

you have to watch the last part of the video clip
 

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:lol: :lol: Here's the BEST part... the person who uploaded the video is not so far away from the typical thinking that non-Buddhists.. or even Buddhists for that matter he brings up the same old lame arguments..

I quote him..

The teaching of Buddhism contradicts every time. They make big fuss about Muslims Sacrificing Animal in Sri Lanka but almost all the Buddhist monk support the killing of LTTE.
Can you kill any human being according to Buddhism. Buddhism is good to preach but not practicable. Islam is the solution to any problem and there is no hypocrisy in Islamic teaching

Actually who says that Army kill LTTE for Buddhists sake? :lol: That is purely based upon political reasons.. nothing to do with Buddhism!!

Here's the truth.. YES! Army too guilty of killing live beings according to Buddhism!! The difference here is Buddhism does not make any special arrangements :lol: Its the same LAW for everybody... you kill.. then you take responsibility... you always have a choice not to kill!!

Now which one is hypocrisy teaching? :lol::lol:

The issue Buddhism has with people is... people does not have courage to do the right thing... BUT DOES THAT MAKES THE RIGHT THING WRONG?

THINK ABOUT IT!!:rolleyes: