‘Vegetarianism’

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EATING NON-VEGETARIAN FOOD

Question:

Killing an animal is a ruthless act. Why then do Muslims consume nonvegetarian food?

Answer:

‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement the world over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights. Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time
Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.

Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.

1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian

A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.

2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:

“O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are
all four-footed animals with the exceptions named.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:1]

“And cattle He has created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth,
and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat.”
[Al-Qur’an 16:5]

“And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their
bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides),
numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat.”
[Al-Qur’an 23:21]

3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein
Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.

4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.

5. Human beings can digest both vege-tarian and non-vegetarian
food
The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?

6. Even plants have life
Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not
fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.

7. Even plants can feel pain
They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above
this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be
heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.

8. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses. Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.

In fact the Qur’an says:

“O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good”
[Al-Qur’an 2:168]

9. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.

10. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians
I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Sri Lankan become nonvegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.
 
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nadeeshaF

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Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time
Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and
fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.


That is a very selfish viewpoint. To believe that the natural world exists purely for the benefit of man. NO, we have to share it with other species for they have every right to it as we do. So it is not "ours" to use as we like.
We are part of the greater natural environment since we are a species too, but we also are the most greedy and selfish of the lot. The damage we've done to this earth as a single species is greater than the collective damage done by all other species, if there was any to it.

And it's this kind of selfish thinking that drive people to do as they please and leave nothing else for any other species of even our future generations.
 

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9. Over population of cattle
If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle
in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.

Nonsence! Cattle bred by humans, are just that. They are not wild animals to breed and populate as you say. If humans hadn't domesticated them in the first place, there wouldn't be so many cattle in this world right now!

Wild cattle numbers are kept in place, through natural predators. But because of human demand for beef and factory farming, there are more cattle in this world than naturally intended to be. We are the only species out there that breed other species, you don't see wild animals breeding another species do you? Thus, the balance of life is maintained. It's humans that have messed up that cycle.

You are talking about cattle over population, what about human over population eh? Humans are the most over populated species in this world, and with certain types breeding like rabbits in the wild, I'm afraid we'll have to seek land elsewhere in time to come.:lol:
 

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4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth
If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.

:lol:

How about Hippopotamus? they have Carnivorous teeth!

But they are Herbivorous!

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Jazakallah Khair for all the brothers and sisters for thier all comments.
may Allah Almighty Bless you all ....
 

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8. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime
Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses. Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.

Totally flawed here! What ever senses your brother have lost as long as he is conscious and his brain sense is working killing him is a crime.. this is the difference between plants and living animals! Very Simple!

Dr.Naiks points I assume! :lol:
 

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sri_lion said:
:lol:

How about Hippopotamus? they have Carnivorous teeth!

But they are Herbivorous!

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very interesting ......
you are brilliant sri_lion your genius.......:P :P :P :P


the hippopotamus’s usual fare is this habitual vegetarian can occasionally turn carnivore.

very interesting video sri_lion the genius please check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp-0BtK1zIk


In 1996, J.P. Dudley published the paper “Record of carnivory, scavenging and predation for Hippopotamus amphibius in Hwange National Park, Zimbabwe,” they are the best scientific accounts that we have that hippos do sometimes eat meat. A pdf file announcing the Dudley’s work, states that not only was carnivory witnessed among the hippos, but even cannibalism,


The Discovery Channel recently broadcast footage of a hippo eating a wildebeest. The hippo first pushed two crocodiles out of its way with its gigantic snout to get to the wildebeest; the crocodiles put up no resistance at all. A park ranger in Africa recently sprinted over a hundred yards to survive a hippo attack.

Source : ^ "6 Cutest Animals That Can Still Destroy You", 6 Cutest Animals That Can Still Destroy You (2008-05-06). Retrieved on 2008-08-09.

More clues are offered up by
short summary from a 1999 issue of Natural History;
http://laelaps.wordpress.com/2007/08/07/carnivorous-hippos/
 
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nadeeshaF said:
Nonsence! Cattle bred by humans, are just that. They are not wild animals to breed and populate as you say. If humans hadn't domesticated them in the first place, there wouldn't be so many cattle in this world right now!

Wild cattle numbers are kept in place, through natural predators. But because of human demand for beef and factory farming, there are more cattle in this world than naturally intended to be. We are the only species out there that breed other species, you don't see wild animals breeding another species do you? Thus, the balance of life is maintained. It's humans that have messed up that cycle.

You are talking about cattle over population, what about human over population eh? Humans are the most over populated species in this world, and with certain types breeding like rabbits in the wild, I'm afraid we'll have to seek land elsewhere in time to come.:lol:

you are totally lost or what ?????

you said that Humans are the most over populated species in this world it's not the truth

insects are the over populated specie in this world not the human as you say.....

before you people refute my satatements you should read what i was talking about if you don't understand my statement you can ask me to post more clearly this a place for a open discussion no offence .....

when it comes to over population of cattle all i said was atonce every one on the face of the earth stop eating cattle what will be the fate obviously there will be a massive change on the cattle population beyond our imaginations that's what i'm talking about the next thing is if you accuse muslims or non-vegiterians as a murderer of lives of spiecies of this world i bet you that ALL OF YOU ARE SO CALLED VEGITERIANS ARE MURDERERS OF SPIECIES TOO ........ :angry: :angry: as we know plants has a life you are eating vegitable it has life you are eating them and asking non-vegiterians to stop killing lives. do you know plants can also feel the pain.

THE RELIGIOUSE PHILLOSOPHY OF VEGITARIANISM IS A ANCIENT SUPERSTITIOUS BELIFE BY IGNORANT PEOPLE

WITHOUT KILLING A LIFE OF SPEICIES ON THIS EARTH NO ONE CAN LIVE INCLUDING YOU
 

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saharaz said:
very interesting ......
you are brilliant sri_lion your genius.......:P :P :P :P


the hippopotamus’s usual fare is this habitual vegetarian can occasionally turn carnivore.

very interesting video sri_lion the genius please check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp-0BtK1zIk


In 1996, J.P. Dudley published the paper “Record of carnivory, scavenging and predation for Hippopotamus amphibius in Hwange National Park, Zimbabwe,” they are the best scientific accounts that we have that hippos do sometimes eat meat. A pdf file announcing the Dudley’s work, states that not only was carnivory witnessed among the hippos, but even cannibalism,


The Discovery Channel recently broadcast footage of a hippo eating a wildebeest. The hippo first pushed two crocodiles out of its way with its gigantic snout to get to the wildebeest; the crocodiles put up no resistance at all. A park ranger in Africa recently sprinted over a hundred yards to survive a hippo attack.

Source : ^ "6 Cutest Animals That Can Still Destroy You", 6 Cutest Animals That Can Still Destroy You (2008-05-06). Retrieved on 2008-08-09.

More clues are offered up by
short summary from a 1999 issue of Natural History;
http://laelaps.wordpress.com/2007/08/07/carnivorous-hippos/
First of all....

Hippo attacks and Hippo's killing their own does not count! Because any animal would attack if it gets threatened so that's called aggressiveness which is totally out of scope... killing their own is not eating... they do this to prevent future competition!

And Yes! they do eat meat very rarely.. but IT IS A HABITUAL VEGETARIAN

Ok! if you have a doubt on Hippos.... lets look at this statement of yours again!

If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth
May I ask.... how about Elephants? their Tusks are actually pointed teeth, so do they eat meat too?:confused:
 

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Pls when you make comments about other religions(specially buddhism) make sure you know at least 60% about otherwise just keep on proving what you say is the truth
 

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madurax86 said:
Pls when you make comments about other religions(specially buddhism) make sure you know at least 60% about otherwise just keep on proving what you say is the truth

Brother I like tell you something I have no intention to insult any religion I’m being a Muslim it is not allowed to insult any religion according to the teaching of Islam. if I insult your religion then you will insult Islam so I will never deem to do so. Even if I want so there are so many wayz but I will never do so

Secondly here I’m talking about Islam and science ….. if you have a mind for your own you can think and try to learn if you have a ability like other EK bro and sis you can also add you comments to educate other member at that point you are welcome. Now what you are doing is just creating RELIGIOUS CONFLICT with your comment which is clearly shows low capacity of …….. your personality ……

Next thing is which ever the Religion including Islam …..

Regarding Vegetarianism



THE RELIGIOUSE PHILLOSOPHY OF VEGITARIANISM IS A ANCIENT SUPERSTITIOUS BELIFE BY IGNORANT PEOPLE



THOPPIYA HARI NAM DHAAGANNA …….


WITHOUT KILLING A LIFE OF SPEICIES ON THIS EARTH NO ONE CAN LIVE INCLUDING YOU



 

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saharaz said:
Brother I like tell you something I have no intention to insult any religion I’m being a Muslim it is not allowed to insult any religion according to the teaching of Islam. if I insult your religion then you will insult Islam so I will never deem to do so. Even if I want so there are so many wayz but I will never do so

Secondly here I’m talking about Islam and science ….. if you have a mind for your own you can think and try to learn if you have a ability like other EK bro and sis you can also add you comments to educate other member at that point you are welcome. Now what you are doing is just creating RELIGIOUS CONFLICT with your comment which is clearly shows low capacity of …….. your personality ……

Next thing is which ever the Religion including Islam …..

Regarding Vegetarianism



THE RELIGIOUSE PHILLOSOPHY OF VEGITARIANISM IS A ANCIENT SUPERSTITIOUS BELIFE BY IGNORANT PEOPLE



THOPPIYA HARI NAM DHAAGANNA …….


WITHOUT KILLING A LIFE OF SPEICIES ON THIS EARTH NO ONE CAN LIVE INCLUDING YOU




Ok thank you for informing me. But being a vegetarian would make me you a better person than killing for my own. Going to the butcher and buying some meat isnt killing but you're funding it so the process continues
The issue is not about killing some species it's the mark that you put upon urself and the victim because of the kill. First inorder to kill an animal you'll have to plan how to kill it because the animal tries to get away from fear it likes to live like us. trees dont run away or attack when we try to cut them down, true that they have life but the feelings that com into our minds when killing an animal doesnt come in to our minds when cutting down a tree...what you think is what that registers as a sin(this is mentioned in buddhism). Its true that we cant live without killing other species when we walk milllions of small insects may have died because we steped on them but its not a bad thing because we didnt know that and that we didnt step on it thinking of killing it. I think you may understand what im saying and if you do, you have to agree that vegetarianism is good because it doesnt make peoples minds so aggresive and so hateful.
 
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sri_lion said:
First of all....

Hippo attacks and Hippo's killing their own does not count! Because any animal would attack if it gets threatened so that's called aggressiveness which is totally out of scope... killing their own is not eating... they do this to prevent future competition!

And Yes! they do eat meat very rarely.. but IT IS A HABITUAL VEGETARIAN

Ok! if you have a doubt on Hippos.... lets look at this statement of yours again!


May I ask.... how about Elephants? their Tusks are actually pointed teeth, so do they eat meat too?:confused:

the main issue here is whether hippopotamus do eats meat or not ……. It is my pleasure Al Hamdhulillah the you accepted that Hippos are eating meat. It means you lied all The EK members that hippo is a HERBIVOROUS ANIMAL. When a herbivorous animal consume meat it is not herbivorous any more so it is clear that you lied..

please check it out below video it portraits very clearly that hippo is eating meat :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp-0BtK1zIk


There one more lie that you said hippos will not eat their own……. Check the underlined statements.


1996, J.P. Dudley published the paper “Record of carnivory, scavenging and predation for Hippopotamus amphibius in Hwange National Park, Zimbabwe,” they are the best scientific accounts that we have that hippos do sometimes eat meat. A pdf file announcing the Dudley’s work, states that not only was carnivory witnessed among the hippos, but even cannibalism,

Cannibalism may have spread anthrax in hippos

check the link for further details : http://www.vetscite.org/publish/items/002006/index.html



now let’s go to your elephant story …….

Dear brothers and sisters after failing in Hippo now sri_lion moved to Elephant after Elaphant i don't know what next ????
even though i try my level best to explain that one also Inshallah

lets see what are the functions and the aspects of both Tusk and Tooth

Tusks are used to dig for water, salt, and roots; to debark trees, to dig into baobab trees to get at the pulp inside; and to move trees and branches when clearing a path. In addition, they are used for marking trees to establish territory and occasionally as weapons.

Teeth that are used to tear, scrape, milk and chew food. Some animals, particularly carnivores, also use teeth for hunting or defense.

Teeth are among the most distinctive (and long-lasting) features of mammal species. Paleontologists use teeth to identify fossil species and determine their relationships. The shape of the animal's teeth are related to its diet. For example, plant matter is hard to digest, so herbivores have many molars for chewing. Carnivores, on the other hand, need canines to kill and tear meat.

We human has molars for chew the vegetables and cannies to tear the meat.

the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?

ohh you people just think.........