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<blockquote data-quote="Alucard_SxE" data-source="post: 20122657" data-attributes="member: 531919"><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px">In the last post I talked about Azor Ahai and the legend surrounding him. </span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px">There's a lot of facts that let us to believe that Azor Ahai Reborn & The prince that was promised, will be the same person.</span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-size: 12px">But ONLY MELISANDRE HAS USED BOTH WORDS TO MENTION THE SAME HERO</span></em></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 26px"><p style="text-align: center">The Prince That Was Promised</p><p></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px">The prince that was promised is a prophesied leader or saviour. The prince may be part of an ancient prophecy, a prophecy that foretells the coming of a hero to deliver the world from darkness. A "bleeding star" is supposed to herald the coming of the prince. The prince is said to have "a song" - the song of ice and fire. (The content of the song of ice & fire is unknown)</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">It is not known from where the prophecy originates, as information on the prince that was promised is scant. Based on the fact that Maester Aemon mentions “a thousand years” to Samwell Tarly it should be safe to say the prince that was promised prophecy is at least 1,000 years old. According to Melisandre the prince that was promised coming was prophesied 5,000 years ago. She does not mention who made the prophecy.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Melisandre has mentioned the prince that was promised and Azor Ahai interchangeably but she tends to use the name Azor Ahai far more often. Aemon only mentions the prince that was promised, never the name Azor Ahai.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">It appears as if the Targaryen family had been awaiting the arrival of the prince so the prophecy may come from Old Valyria, but that is conjecture. There is not as much clear information on the prince as, for example, Azor Ahai. (And then there's Rhaegar Targaryen <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /> )</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 22px"><u>The Promised Prince = Rhaegar Targaryen ???</u></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/4/4a/Rhaegar_Targaryen.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160215175232&path-prefix=protagonist" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px">Since the TV show doesn't do much history, most of you may see Rhaegar as a Villain. But he's actually somewhat of a opposite. He's was well loved by the people during his time. He's silent, a thinker and keep himself private. Before he became a knight, he read so many books and was a talented musician. But one day something he read changed his life.</span></p></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Rhaegar was born on the same day the tragedy of summerhall took place and said to be "born in grief" (I'll write an entire post about Rhaegar & his story later on)</span></p><p></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/2/22/Rhaegar_twoiaf.jpg/320px-Rhaegar_twoiaf.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">At one point Prince Rhaegar Targaryen seemed to believe that he might be the prince that was promised. According to a tale told of Rhaegar, one day he found something in his scrolls that changed him and he decided to become a knight. He said to Ser Willem Darry, the master-at-arms,</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">“I will require a sword and armor. It seems I must be a warrior.”</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Therefore, the prince may be a warrior who wields a sword.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">But then that was not the case and he still believes of the prophesy and thinks his son "Aegon"who is born from his wife, princess Elia.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">The prince that was promised is first mentioned in the House of the Undying when Daenerys Targaryen sees a vision of her brother (This is in the book "A clash with Kings") , Rhaegar, who names his son Aegon, and says,</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">“He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire.”</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Rhaegar looks up as he says those words, his eyes meeting Daenerys's, and it seems to her as if he sees her standing there.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">Aemon Targaryen (Master Aemon at Castle Black also believed Aegon to be the prince that was promised.But in the sack of kings landing Aegon with his sister and mother are killed by Gregor Clegane (The mountain) and Tywin Lannisters men.</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><u>'Eddard Stark recalls that "Lord Tywin's soldiers" had torn Aegon from his mother's breast and dashed his head against a wall.'</u></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><p style="text-align: center">The who is this promised prince???</p><p></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><p style="text-align: center">Melisandre, a worshiper of R'hllor has stated that,</p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">“When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt. ”</p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Much later in Braavos, when talking of the prince to Samwell Tarly,<u> Maester Aemon mentions smoke and salt as being part of the heralding of the prince that was promised coming. </u> <span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><em><span style="font-size: 15px"> Maester Aemon was aware of Rhaegar's beliefs, though it is unclear if he shared them. Aemon would later came to doubt the wisdom of looking for a prince, rather than a princess. He realized there was a translation error, and that the term translated was fluid in terms of gender. This is connected to the term for <u>dragons, which are neither male nor female</u>.</span></em></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">The mention of smoke and salt brings to mind Melisandre’s above mentioned statement. However, Tyrion Lannister has stated that:</p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">“Prophecy is like a half-trained mule. It looks as though it might be useful, but the moment you trust in it, it kicks you in the head.”</p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'">Azor Ahai and the prince that was promised may be two distinct prophecies, or they may be one in the same in a prophecy that has the potential to turn out to be about two separate people. The prince may not even be male; the prince may have been referred to as male erroneously for centuries. Aemon firmly believes that the prince is not a prince but a princess, as High Valyrian is a language in which nouns are gender neutral.</p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><img src="http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/6/6c/MKomarck_DaenerysTheUnburnt.jpg/300px-MKomarck_DaenerysTheUnburnt.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Aemon also says to Samwell that the dragon must have three heads. He wakes up weeping, wailing:</span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>“ The dragon must have three heads … but I am too old to be one of them. I should be with her, showing her the way, but my body has betrayed me. ”</strong></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>It may be that the three-headed dragon is a part of the prince that was promised prophecy, and there are two other people whom the prince will need to have by his side to show him the way.</strong></span></span></p><p></span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 15px">In my opinion, I believe in Rhaegar stating that his son would be the promised prince. <strong>But it's not Aegon. It's Jon.</strong> <strong>This is all assuming that Jon is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar.</strong></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Since Elia was frail and could not have any more children or maybe because Rhaegar saw some stuff in the scrolls maybe, he planned and kidnapped Lyanna and made her pregnant? Only because the prophesy should come to pass and not because he was unfaithful and cruel?? Because the Rhaegar according to the lore is not a bad person but a good, intelligent man. All those secrets lies with George R.R. Martin and we will know in the upcoming books <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/happy.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Happy :)" data-shortname=":)" /></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Up next I'll talk about the Nights King & the Horn of Winter</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Cheers!!!</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alucard_SxE, post: 20122657, member: 531919"] [I][SIZE="3"]In the last post I talked about Azor Ahai and the legend surrounding him. There's a lot of facts that let us to believe that Azor Ahai Reborn & The prince that was promised, will be the same person. But ONLY MELISANDRE HAS USED BOTH WORDS TO MENTION THE SAME HERO[/SIZE][/I] [SIZE="7"][CENTER]The Prince That Was Promised[/CENTER][/SIZE] [CENTER][SIZE="4"]The prince that was promised is a prophesied leader or saviour. The prince may be part of an ancient prophecy, a prophecy that foretells the coming of a hero to deliver the world from darkness. A "bleeding star" is supposed to herald the coming of the prince. The prince is said to have "a song" - the song of ice and fire. (The content of the song of ice & fire is unknown)[/SIZE] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]It is not known from where the prophecy originates, as information on the prince that was promised is scant. Based on the fact that Maester Aemon mentions “a thousand years” to Samwell Tarly it should be safe to say the prince that was promised prophecy is at least 1,000 years old. According to Melisandre the prince that was promised coming was prophesied 5,000 years ago. She does not mention who made the prophecy. Melisandre has mentioned the prince that was promised and Azor Ahai interchangeably but she tends to use the name Azor Ahai far more often. Aemon only mentions the prince that was promised, never the name Azor Ahai.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]It appears as if the Targaryen family had been awaiting the arrival of the prince so the prophecy may come from Old Valyria, but that is conjecture. There is not as much clear information on the prince as, for example, Azor Ahai. (And then there's Rhaegar Targaryen :) )[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="6"][U]The Promised Prince = Rhaegar Targaryen ???[/U][/SIZE] [IMG]http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/4/4a/Rhaegar_Targaryen.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160215175232&path-prefix=protagonist[/IMG][/CENTER] [FONT="Book Antiqua"][CENTER][SIZE="3"]Since the TV show doesn't do much history, most of you may see Rhaegar as a Villain. But he's actually somewhat of a opposite. He's was well loved by the people during his time. He's silent, a thinker and keep himself private. Before he became a knight, he read so many books and was a talented musician. But one day something he read changed his life. Rhaegar was born on the same day the tragedy of summerhall took place and said to be "born in grief" (I'll write an entire post about Rhaegar & his story later on)[/SIZE][/CENTER][/FONT] [CENTER][IMG]http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/2/22/Rhaegar_twoiaf.jpg/320px-Rhaegar_twoiaf.jpg[/IMG] [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]At one point Prince Rhaegar Targaryen seemed to believe that he might be the prince that was promised. According to a tale told of Rhaegar, one day he found something in his scrolls that changed him and he decided to become a knight. He said to Ser Willem Darry, the master-at-arms, “I will require a sword and armor. It seems I must be a warrior.” Therefore, the prince may be a warrior who wields a sword.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]But then that was not the case and he still believes of the prophesy and thinks his son "Aegon"who is born from his wife, princess Elia.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]The prince that was promised is first mentioned in the House of the Undying when Daenerys Targaryen sees a vision of her brother (This is in the book "A clash with Kings") , Rhaegar, who names his son Aegon, and says, “He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire.” Rhaegar looks up as he says those words, his eyes meeting Daenerys's, and it seems to her as if he sees her standing there.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="3"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Aemon Targaryen (Master Aemon at Castle Black also believed Aegon to be the prince that was promised.But in the sack of kings landing Aegon with his sister and mother are killed by Gregor Clegane (The mountain) and Tywin Lannisters men. [U]'Eddard Stark recalls that "Lord Tywin's soldiers" had torn Aegon from his mother's breast and dashed his head against a wall.'[/U][/FONT][/SIZE][/CENTER] [SIZE="5"][CENTER]The who is this promised prince???[/CENTER][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][CENTER]Melisandre, a worshiper of R'hllor has stated that, “When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt. ” Much later in Braavos, when talking of the prince to Samwell Tarly,[U] Maester Aemon mentions smoke and salt as being part of the heralding of the prince that was promised coming. [/U] [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][I][SIZE="4"] Maester Aemon was aware of Rhaegar's beliefs, though it is unclear if he shared them. Aemon would later came to doubt the wisdom of looking for a prince, rather than a princess. He realized there was a translation error, and that the term translated was fluid in terms of gender. This is connected to the term for [U]dragons, which are neither male nor female[/U].[/SIZE][/I][/FONT] The mention of smoke and salt brings to mind Melisandre’s above mentioned statement. However, Tyrion Lannister has stated that: “Prophecy is like a half-trained mule. It looks as though it might be useful, but the moment you trust in it, it kicks you in the head.” Azor Ahai and the prince that was promised may be two distinct prophecies, or they may be one in the same in a prophecy that has the potential to turn out to be about two separate people. The prince may not even be male; the prince may have been referred to as male erroneously for centuries. Aemon firmly believes that the prince is not a prince but a princess, as High Valyrian is a language in which nouns are gender neutral. [CENTER][IMG]http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/6/6c/MKomarck_DaenerysTheUnburnt.jpg/300px-MKomarck_DaenerysTheUnburnt.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="4"]Aemon also says to Samwell that the dragon must have three heads. He wakes up weeping, wailing: [B]“ The dragon must have three heads … but I am too old to be one of them. I should be with her, showing her the way, but my body has betrayed me. ” It may be that the three-headed dragon is a part of the prince that was promised prophecy, and there are two other people whom the prince will need to have by his side to show him the way.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/FONT][/SIZE] [CENTER][FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="4"]In my opinion, I believe in Rhaegar stating that his son would be the promised prince. [B]But it's not Aegon. It's Jon.[/B] [B]This is all assuming that Jon is the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar.[/B] Since Elia was frail and could not have any more children or maybe because Rhaegar saw some stuff in the scrolls maybe, he planned and kidnapped Lyanna and made her pregnant? Only because the prophesy should come to pass and not because he was unfaithful and cruel?? Because the Rhaegar according to the lore is not a bad person but a good, intelligent man. All those secrets lies with George R.R. Martin and we will know in the upcoming books :) Up next I'll talk about the Nights King & the Horn of Winter Cheers!!! [/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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