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<blockquote data-quote="hafizsaad" data-source="post: 6193284" data-attributes="member: 153303"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">How much you will tell lie. You hav taken all uper material from a cristian racist site that is banned and restricted. they have tried their best to make the concept about quran verses like about bible.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Your Upper copy / paste comments are just your ignorance from the basic concept of Abrogated versus in Quran.Neither of your post is correct about islam </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">and you claim all the time ex-muslim, May be because of your this misleading and ignorance you have left it.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The reality is below :</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Arabic words 'nasikh' and 'mansukh' are both derived from the same root word 'nasakha' which carries meanings</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">such as 'to abolish, to replace, to withdraw, to abrogate'.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The word nasikh (an active participle) means 'the abrogating', while mansukh (passive) means 'the abrogated'.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In technical language these terms refer to certain parts of the Qur'anic revelation, which have been 'abrogated' by others.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Naturally the <strong>abrogated</strong> passage is the one called 'mansukh' while the <strong>abrogating</strong> one is called 'nasikh'.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Qur'an on Naskh The principle of naskh (abrogation) is referred to in the Qur'an itself and is not a later historical development:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">'</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #3333ff">None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause it to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #3333ff">thou that God has power over all things?'</span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> (2: 106).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><span style="color: Blue"><strong>How & why </strong></span></u></span></span><u><span style="color: Blue"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">abrogated</span></span> & <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">abrogating In Quran :</span></span></strong></span></u></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> When the message of Islam was presented to the Arabs as something new, and different</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">from their way of life, it was introduced in stages. The Qur'an brought important changes gradually, to allow </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">the people to adjust to the new prescriptions.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Example:</strong> There are three verses in the Qur'an concerning the drinking of wine. Wine drinking was very widespread</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">in pre-Islamic times and, although a social evil, highly esteemed. The people without wine were just like a fish without water.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">God has Prohibited the wine in stages, so it become easy for the people to accept.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The three verses which finally led to </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">the prohibition of intoxicating substances were revealed in stages (4: 43, 2: 219; 5: 93-4).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">see</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><strong>1st stage</strong></u></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000">O you who believe! <u>Approach not the prayer when you are in a drunken</u> state until you know (the meaning) of what you utter,</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000">nor when you are </span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000"> in a state of ceremonial impurity...</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(4: 43)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><strong>2nd stage</strong></u></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000">They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "<u>In them is a great sin, </u></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000"><u>and (some) benefit,</u> for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit."</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(2: 219)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><strong>3rd stage</strong></u></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000">O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, and arrows for seeking luck or decision </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000">are an abomination of Shaitân's (Satan) handiwork. So <u>avoid (strictly all) that (abomination)</u> in order that you may be successful (90)</span></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000"></span><span style="color: #000000"><u>Shaitân (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you </u><u>with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, a</u></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Green"><span style="color: #000000"><u>nd hinder you from the remembrance of Allâh and from As-Salât (the prayer)</u>. So, will you not then abstain? (91)</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> (5: 90-91).</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Why it is important Knowledge of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh is important because it concerns the correct and exact </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 12px">application of the laws of Allah. It is specifically concerned with legal revelations:</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hafizsaad, post: 6193284, member: 153303"] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]How much you will tell lie. You hav taken all uper material from a cristian racist site that is banned and restricted. they have tried their best to make the concept about quran verses like about bible. Your Upper copy / paste comments are just your ignorance from the basic concept of Abrogated versus in Quran.Neither of your post is correct about islam and you claim all the time ex-muslim, May be because of your this misleading and ignorance you have left it. The reality is below :[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3]The Arabic words 'nasikh' and 'mansukh' are both derived from the same root word 'nasakha' which carries meanings such as 'to abolish, to replace, to withdraw, to abrogate'. The word nasikh (an active participle) means 'the abrogating', while mansukh (passive) means 'the abrogated'. In technical language these terms refer to certain parts of the Qur'anic revelation, which have been 'abrogated' by others. Naturally the [B]abrogated[/B] passage is the one called 'mansukh' while the [B]abrogating[/B] one is called 'nasikh'. The Qur'an on Naskh The principle of naskh (abrogation) is referred to in the Qur'an itself and is not a later historical development: ' [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3][COLOR=#3333ff]None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause it to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou that God has power over all things?'[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3] (2: 106). [U][COLOR=Blue][B]How & why [/B][/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/FONT][U][COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3]abrogated[/SIZE][/FONT] & [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3]abrogating In Quran :[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/U] [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3] When the message of Islam was presented to the Arabs as something new, and different from their way of life, it was introduced in stages. The Qur'an brought important changes gradually, to allow the people to adjust to the new prescriptions. [B]Example:[/B] There are three verses in the Qur'an concerning the drinking of wine. Wine drinking was very widespread in pre-Islamic times and, although a social evil, highly esteemed. The people without wine were just like a fish without water. God has Prohibited the wine in stages, so it become easy for the people to accept. The three verses which finally led to the prohibition of intoxicating substances were revealed in stages (4: 43, 2: 219; 5: 93-4). see [U][B]1st stage[/B][/U] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3][COLOR=Green][COLOR=#000000]O you who believe! [U]Approach not the prayer when you are in a drunken[/U] state until you know (the meaning) of what you utter, nor when you are [/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3][COLOR=Green][COLOR=#000000] in a state of ceremonial impurity...[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3](4: 43) [U][B]2nd stage[/B][/U] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3][COLOR=Green][COLOR=#000000]They ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: "[U]In them is a great sin, and (some) benefit,[/U] for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit."[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3](2: 219) [U][B]3rd stage[/B][/U] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3][COLOR=Green][COLOR=#000000]O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, and arrows for seeking luck or decision are an abomination of Shaitân's (Satan) handiwork. So [U]avoid (strictly all) that (abomination)[/U] in order that you may be successful (90) [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][U]Shaitân (Satan) wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you [/U][U]with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, a nd hinder you from the remembrance of Allâh and from As-Salât (the prayer)[/U]. So, will you not then abstain? (91)[/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Franklin Gothic Medium][SIZE=3] (5: 90-91). Why it is important Knowledge of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh is important because it concerns the correct and exact application of the laws of Allah. It is specifically concerned with legal revelations:[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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