All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds.

[Zeus]

Barberic 7th century laws! Yuk!

Hmm v can see amazing and mind blowing show here
(no offence ayiye im not blaimimg u ok ? )

 

[tharinda07]

aniwaryenma.... oya den wath piligaththa neda... e witharak nemey george bush wa mewweth allah tamay...

oya inne koheda??? lankaweda / malaysia walada?????

eathakota israel meavveth alla neada.paw alla mavapu raten allage aagama adahana palastiienata dan hodatama gahanawa (isella egypt walatath dunnane_

 

[RajNOX]

People get their religion mainly by birth. i.e. from their parents.
Then many blindly follow it without looking / understanding other religions.
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i accept what you say... but islam givs a chance to all men and women in earth to get into the correct path.. after understanding it well.

If Islam goes beyond that, then it won't have so called laws like Sharia. Because if it's practical then people would easily follow it. Why putting laws?
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sharia is the law of god.. These laws were created by the mufthys(scholars) after refering to quran and sunnah.. Islamic countries follow those rules and regulation..

if there is a new sort of a problem.. the mufthys analyze the problem. relate the new problem to the old ones.. and get the answer..

upto now there has been no problem in this manner of put laws according to shariya..

Practical? Cutting arms and whipping is practical in the current society?
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islam is a practical religion..

cutting arm is the highest level of punishment that can be given to a person who has robed.
if somone robbed a phone which you hav kept in a public place, and you went somwhr then that robbery has a part involving on you too.. The mistake was partialy yours. so you dnt get a chance to get a ful revenge aganst the thief.
that is u cant ct off his arms..

if some1 robbed for hunger.. the highest level of rule should not be taken in to action.. This is somthing to analyze by the judge.

how many of the thiefs change into good ones after going throo the laws of sri lanka. which is to jail for few months or years.. the theif begin his job again when he comes out.. Islam the practical way of life.. discribes them all in a the correct manner...

Is it practical? Can you show 100 muslims who earn more than 85 grams of gold and at least paying their taxes properly?
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he doesnt need to earn them. If he has them thats enough. more over those gold should be somthing that is not being used by the owner.. such as jeweleries.. those things doesnt need to be given as zakath.. there are many other rules.. regaurding this issue.. i dont type them all here.. if you wana know more about this.. i will let you know correct places to learn more.. coz islam covers everything.. and welcomes your questions too..

Islam: A religion of love & peace as they say.... Asking to cut the hands?
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you cant love and care for someone who did a crime.. you should love and care for others who can become his victims next time.. and you can care about the one who did the crime as giving him the punishment to get rid of the crime any further..

LOL So, only a few hands? (Religion of love & peace)
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i told you before cutting the hand is the major punishment..

and i bet none is gona try to steal again with a cut hand...

Let's see how
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Relevant verses from the Quran:
Sûrah an Nâs 4.119
'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will...'

Sûrah an Nûr 24.33
'... And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).

if someone rape a grl.. he deserve death..

if its not rape then both deserve the punishment of getting hit by a whip for 100 times.. if its a married one then agin death penalty..

Do men wear Hijabs all the time other than in Arabic countries nowadays?
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men dont wear Hijabs women does.. and still do in arab as well.

But men force their woman/ women to wear Hijabs.... Which is unfair.
So cutting off limbs won't help isn't it? Women have to wear the hijab and suffer in the hot climates while the men enjoys?
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if a guy look at 2 grls in the road. one wearing decent dress and other with a short skirt.. who will he try to flirt..

so its a must that grls should wear decent cloths.. the problem is.. wht define the decent cloth.. Islam has the solution. It defines the rules and reguations.

a guy is the one who flirt grls.. grls dont flirt guys.. so grls can be closed with dress.. without closing the eyes of men.. which is imposible..

Islam knows it well and defines the correct solution. none like to flirt a grl wearing hijab for sure..

and a grl has to wear such cloths when she goes out frm her place.. no need to wear inside her home.. when no ajnabi(the one who can she marry except her husband) guys were near her.. and islam tells the women to stay at home.. and look after the family while its husbands responsibility to feed them and fill thier needs.. so a normal islamic grl dont need to suffer of hwt you hav said before..

Agreed partially. (modest)
But there are modest women who wear less clothes for comfort. And clothes won't prevent molestation. Rather, it will increase if everybody covers-up. Because people want to know what's inside always.
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The woman in hijab will be teased first definitely. (If not in Arab)
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why the hell someone wana know whts inside.. if its a neccersory its okey to show there face.. but you cant ask women to take off their cloths just for ur pleasure..

women with hijab get teased now a days.. i accept.. its coz you ppl wana get rid of it.. not for other sexual arousal.. you should accept it...

Capital punishment is not a problem and should be enforced by the legal systems of the country. But the problem is, Muslims say that Islam is a religion of love and peace.​

iv told you love and peace doesnt mean wht ever the wrg things you do.. you can get off with it telling love and peace...

punishing som1 who did a crime has to aspects.

one : save others from him
two : its a right of the victim to have a revenge if he/she like so (but islam ask to forgive.. but think if some1 murder ur mom.. will you be okey forgiving him.. thats y islam asked to forgive .. if not islam also says you can hav d revenge..)

these punishments makes the others get off from such sins too..

still these thing are for world stuffz.. god is ready to forgive anyone as long as the victim forgives the one who did the crime.. but still if its a criminal defence aginst the public.. then he should go throo the punishment even if the victim forgives..

havig such a death will earase his sins and giv him jannah(heven) too. as he has took the punishment in earth itself...

Hijab won't stop it. Only restrictions for youth drinking, clubbing etc will reduce the number of rapes. How many people wear Hijabs in public and go to night clubs without it? ​

never measure islam with a muslims act.. there are somany buddist that i know who eat flesh meet and even goto prostitues.. do they represent buddism..

Below part says it is practical, but the top says it's not.
Human kind will suffer and there won't be any joy in being human anymore.
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[/CENTER]

i bet you if you follow these things you will feel real joy in your life.. im not telling im 100% like dat.. but im sure sure you will feel really good if you do so.. dont argue with me... without practising it.. coz no use argueing...

Practical you say again?

of coz yes practical

P:S: As long as the article says all religions say the same idea and same meaning, it is true. But NO religion is 'better' than another!

grt idea.. but i dnt agree in this bro.. there is only one true religion.. its islam...

 

[sri_lion]

islam is a practical religion..

cutting arm is the highest level of punishment that can be given to a person who has robed.
if somone robbed a phone which you hav kept in a public place, and you went somwhr then that robbery has a part involving on you too.. The mistake was partialy yours. so you dnt get a chance to get a ful revenge aganst the thief.
that is u cant ct off his arms..

if some1 robbed for hunger.. the highest level of rule should not be taken in to action.. This is somthing to analyze by the judge.

how many of the thiefs change into good ones after going throo the laws of sri lanka. which is to jail for few months or years.. the theif begin his job again when he comes out.. Islam the practical way of life.. discribes them all in a the correct manner...

The Shariah law maybe the most successful in terms of getting the crime rate down.. but the problem is, in a democratic country this law cannot be implemented by any means.. Because in those countries even prisoners have rights!!

You can't have best of both worlds in here.. for example lets take your own theory... if Sri Lanka adopt a similar concept of Saudi to fight Crime... then crime rate will definitely decline, but then SL will no longer be a democratic country... which you as a Muslim and a minority in Sri Lanka should fear most!!!

Because as we know in Saudi they dont have any regard for other religions or races.... because they are not bound by democracy.. so will you still say yes to that kind of law in Sri Lanka??? Take Malaysia for example... there is shariah law here applicable to Muslims, yet still there are no such Baberic rules like chopping off limbs... why? because they cannot implement such rules in a highly Multi-Cultural society... BUT YOU TELL ME ITS PRACTICAL.. now is it really?

you cant love and care for someone who did a crime.. you should love and care for others who can become his victims next time.. and you can care about the one who did the crime as giving him the punishment to get rid of the crime any further..

Why not? it maybe a hard thing to do.. but usually it is hard to do something right!

When chop off a hand the person carry the scar through out his life, everyone will know he is a criminal and he will be cornered in the society... will people give him a chance even if he wants to be a good man or a woman???

Crime is done physically... but where's the origin? just because you lift a wallet does that mean your hand just over powered your body and did this? The origin / root is mind... like Buddha said "Mind is the birth place of everything" so you treat the root first.....

i told you before cutting the hand is the major punishment..

and i bet none is gona try to steal again with a cut hand...

Very shallow thinking.... like I mentioned.. altering his physical shape will not alter his attitude!

 

[nadeeshaF]

The Shariah law maybe the most successful in terms of getting the crime rate down.. but the problem is, in a democratic country this law cannot be implemented by any means.. Because in those countries even prisoners have rights!!

You can't have best of both worlds in here.. for example lets take your own theory... if Sri Lanka adopt a similar concept of Saudi to fight Crime... then crime rate will definitely decline, but then SL will no longer be a democratic country... which you as a Muslim and a minority in Sri Lanka should fear most!!!

Because as we know in Saudi they dont have any regard for other religions or races.... because they are not bound by democracy.. so will you still say yes to that kind of law in Sri Lanka??? Take Malaysia for example... there is shariah law here applicable to Muslims, yet still there are no such Baberic rules like chopping off limbs... why? because they cannot implement such rules in a highly Multi-Cultural society... BUT YOU TELL ME ITS PRACTICAL.. now is it really?



Why not? it maybe a hard thing to do.. but usually it is hard to do something right!

When chop off a hand the person carry the scar through out his life, everyone will know he is a criminal and he will be cornered in the society... will people give him a chance even if he wants to be a good man or a woman???

Crime is done physically... but where's the origin? just because you lift a wallet does that mean your hand just over powered your body and did this? The origin / root is mind... like Buddha said "Mind is the birth place of everything" so you treat the root first.....


Very shallow thinking.... like I mentioned.. altering his physical shape will not alter his attitude!

What he said

 

[x-pert]

i accept what you say... but islam givs a chance to all men and women in earth to get into the correct path.. after understanding it well.

How can a thief come to the correct path after losing a limb? So what's the 'chance' you're referring to?

sharia is the law of god.. These laws were created by the mufthys(scholars) after refering to quran and sunnah.. Islamic countries follow those rules and regulation..

if there is a new sort of a problem.. the mufthys analyze the problem. relate the new problem to the old ones.. and get the answer..

upto now there has been no problem in this manner of put laws according to shariya..

Removing limbs is the law of god? OR is it the law created by men telling that it is the law of god? Think from your mind.

islam is a practical religion..

cutting arm is the highest level of punishment that can be given to a person who has robed.
if somone robbed a phone which you hav kept in a public place, and you went somwhr then that robbery has a part involving on you too.. The mistake was partialy yours. so you dnt get a chance to get a ful revenge aganst the thief.
that is u cant ct off his arms..

if some1 robbed for hunger.. the highest level of rule should not be taken in to action.. This is somthing to analyze by the judge.

how many of the thiefs change into good ones after going throo the laws of sri lanka. which is to jail for few months or years.. the theif begin his job again when he comes out.. Islam the practical way of life.. discribes them all in a the correct manner...

So there are loop holes even in the law of god?

he doesnt need to earn them. If he has them thats enough. more over those gold should be somthing that is not being used by the owner.. such as jeweleries.. those things doesnt need to be given as zakath.. there are many other rules.. regaurding this issue.. i dont type them all here.. if you wana know more about this.. i will let you know correct places to learn more.. coz islam covers everything.. and welcomes your questions too..

I've heard Muslims even can't get the interest from banks. and they should give it to charity. Do you do that?

you cant love and care for someone who did a crime.. you should love and care for others who can become his victims next time.. and you can care about the one who did the crime as giving him the punishment to get rid of the crime any further..

Can't you love a person who did a crime?
This is the major difference between Islam and other religions I think.

Christianity says: Love thy neighbor, as thy self ; further it says to love your enemy like you do to your friend even.
Buddhism says: Siyalu sathwayo niduk wethwa; sathurata wuwada mayithriya karanna.

Then only we can see a great community; Not by cutting limbs.

i told you before cutting the hand is the major punishment..

and i bet none is gona try to steal again with a cut hand...

After cutting a hand, can he do any work? Definitely the only option is to steal again or to suicide.

Relevant verses from the Quran:
Sûrah an Nâs 4.119
'O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will...'

Sûrah an Nûr 24.33
'... And do not, in order to gain some of the fleeting pleasures of this worldly life, coerce your slave women into whoredom if they are desirous of marriage, and if anyone should coerce them, then, verily, after they have been compelled (to submit in their helplessness), God will be much forgiving, a dispenser of grace (to them).

if someone rape a grl.. he deserve death..

if its not rape then both deserve the punishment of getting hit by a whip for 100 times.. if its a married one then agin death penalty..

Yes, but again Islam allows to marry 7 ladies if possible pretty contradicting isn't it?

men dont wear Hijabs women does.. and still do in arab as well.

That's why I said it is not fair to allow only women to suffer in the hot weather.

if a guy look at 2 grls in the road. one wearing decent dress and other with a short skirt.. who will he try to flirt..

so its a must that grls should wear decent cloths.. the problem is.. wht define the decent cloth.. Islam has the solution. It defines the rules and reguations.

a guy is the one who flirt grls.. grls dont flirt guys.. so grls can be closed with dress.. without closing the eyes of men.. which is imposible..

Islam knows it well and defines the correct solution. none like to flirt a grl wearing hijab for sure..

and a grl has to wear such cloths when she goes out frm her place.. no need to wear inside her home.. when no ajnabi(the one who can she marry except her husband) guys were near her.. and islam tells the women to stay at home.. and look after the family while its husbands responsibility to feed them and fill thier needs.. so a normal islamic grl dont need to suffer of hwt you hav said before..

why the hell someone wana know whts inside.. if its a neccersory its okey to show there face.. but you cant ask women to take off their cloths just for ur pleasure..

women with hijab get teased now a days.. i accept.. its coz you ppl wana get rid of it.. not for other sexual arousal.. you should accept it...

Decent clothes doesn't mean that you need to cover your whole body and suffer. you can wear a pair of pants and a nice T shirt.

iv told you love and peace doesnt mean wht ever the wrg things you do.. you can get off with it telling love and peace...

punishing som1 who did a crime has to aspects.

one : save others from him
two : its a right of the victim to have a revenge if he/she like so (but islam ask to forgive.. but think if some1 murder ur mom.. will you be okey forgiving him.. thats y islam asked to forgive .. if not islam also says you can hav d revenge..)

these punishments makes the others get off from such sins too..

still these thing are for world stuffz.. god is ready to forgive anyone as long as the victim forgives the one who did the crime.. but still if its a criminal defence aginst the public.. then he should go throo the punishment even if the victim forgives..

havig such a death will earase his sins and giv him jannah(heven) too. as he has took the punishment in earth itself...

That's the difference of Islam. Islam tells to punish the wrong doers. While the other religions practice 'forgiveness' (samaawa deema)

Islam practices the old testament in the bible: An eye to eye, tooth to tooth.
All other religions follow the new testament in the bible: Love your god. Love thy naighbor as thy self.

So which is the better religion then bro?

never measure islam with a muslims act.. there are somany buddist that i know who eat flesh meet and even goto prostitues.. do they represent buddism..

Human do those things. That's why we call them human.
Anyway that wasn't my point. My point was, a dress or a set of rules will not control ones behaviour.

i bet you if you follow these things you will feel real joy in your life.. im not telling im 100% like dat.. but im sure sure you will feel really good if you do so.. dont argue with me... without practising it.. coz no use argueing...

Sorry. But I can't think of a life without pork, without alcohol, without few limbs, with girls covering their whole body etc etc etc. That's called suffering

of coz yes practical

Yes yes

grt idea.. but i dnt agree in this bro.. there is only one true religion.. its islam...

Islam is not a religion. Islam is a set of rules by which you have to abide otherwise you will lose your limbs. Islam is not a practical way of life like what was preached by Jesus or Buddha.

 

[RajNOX]

The Shariah law maybe the most successful in terms of getting the crime rate down.. but the problem is, in a democratic country this law cannot be implemented by any means.. Because in those countries even prisoners have rights!!

that is the problem brother..

You can't have best of both worlds in here.. for example lets take your own theory... if Sri Lanka adopt a similar concept of Saudi to fight Crime... then crime rate will definitely decline, but then SL will no longer be a democratic country... which you as a Muslim and a minority in Sri Lanka should fear most!!!

a accept on your comment..

Because as we know in Saudi they dont have any regard for other religions or races.... because they are not bound by democracy.. so will you still say yes to that kind of law in Sri Lanka??? Take Malaysia for example... there is shariah law here applicable to Muslims, yet still there are no such Baberic rules like chopping off limbs... why? because they cannot implement such rules in a highly Multi-Cultural society... BUT YOU TELL ME ITS PRACTICAL.. now is it really?

but the society has made the criminals to have more rights than they deserve.. untill people understand the real situation.. islamic shariya wont be applicable.. but not because its not practical.. but because of the aspects men and women has toward them..

Why not? it maybe a hard thing to do.. but usually it is hard to do something right!

not usually but in sometimes.. as i tld.. if the judgment panel accept a criminal as a criminal deserv a maximum penalty.. well i think it should be correct.. islam doesnt ask a persons ahnd to be chopped off if he had a valid reason for the theft...

When chop off a hand the person carry the scar through out his life, everyone will know he is a criminal and he will be cornered in the society... will people give him a chance even if he wants to be a good man or a woman???

a murderer who murdered someone (think for his enjoyment or somthing like that) without any valid reason. should be murdered as well.. that is the maximum penallty.. or he should be in jail for ever.. that is sri lankan maximum penalty..

you know when tsunami attaccks men from jail got ascaped(specially the murderers having thier life time jailing) and even raped the dead ones.. has the sri lankan law changed a criminal.

if a man or a women who went tro islamic law will never get a chancce to to such an event.. coz god knows its very very hard to change a murderer of that type..

but when we consider thefts the the man gets the chance to change himself.. as not given max penaly of cutting off the hand.. if he did this theft for a valid reason..

man who steal for his hunger is not like the man who steal for earn money to be rich.. both are different.. so there should be a difference in judgment.. so when a persons hand is chopped off, that means he deserve it.. after that if he become a good man.. well of couse people should accept him.. but people wont accpet him at first. and he may hava a hard time.. but all these thigs were earn by his ouwn hand toward himself.. so he deserve em..

Crime is done physically... but where's the origin? just because you lift a wallet does that mean your hand just over powered your body and did this? The origin / root is mind... like Buddha said "Mind is the birth place of everything" so you treat the root first.....

mind is the one which controls the body.. if you havnt got a soul then your dead.. a dead person in valueless.. that is.. body is just a tool for the soul..

Very shallow thinking.... like I mentioned.. altering his physical shape will not alter his attitude!

im not trying to say that physical shape is letting him not do a theft.. its the fear that makes him not do the theft.. if he was a real muslim.. of coz he wont steal. but being not afraid to allah has made him steal.. i said before.. if there is a valid reason for the thesft.. the maximum penalty wil not be giiven..

so being not afraid to allah, result him to theft.. so there should be someother things which should control that thief.. that is the fear of the law.. anyhow.. the inal result should be the thieft should not steal agn.. if he is not ready to accept or understand the real stuffz in islam.. then of coz.. i think we should thik about the future victims of that theif..

 

[nimaz]

Barberic 7th century laws! Yuk!

luk hus talking!

 

[RajNOX]

How can a thief come to the correct path after losing a limb? So what's the 'chance' you're referring to?

he get afraid of the law.. if he is not afraid of god.. anyhow.. the theft is no longer..

Removing limbs is the law of god? OR is it the law created by men telling that it is the law of god? Think from your mind.

100% anything in islam is total the word of god..

So there are loop holes even in the law of god?

i dont seen such a hole.. look at the problem in nutral manner.. who should you care most.. the one who did the crime or the one who is the victim.. say the crime has no valid reasons...

I've heard Muslims even can't get the interest from banks. and they should give it to charity. Do you do that?

no.. we cant get the interest.. its haramm. so we cant giv them to charities as well.. coz we dont deserv haram money..

Can't you love a person who did a crime?
This is the major difference between Islam and other religions I think.

Christianity says: Love thy neighbor, as thy self ; further it says to love your enemy like you do to your friend even.
Buddhism says: Siyalu sathwayo niduk wethwa; sathurata wuwada mayithriya karanna.

Then only we can see a great community; Not by cutting limbs.

think still the criminal dint change.. wht whould you do.. forgive him for ever...

After cutting a hand, can he do any work? Definitely the only option is to steal again or to suicide.

i answer this ro sri lions question.. go thro it..

Yes, but again Islam allows to marry 7 ladies if possible pretty contradicting isn't it?

not 7.. its four.. there is a false idea thats been in the mind of budist.. most of ma frnd hav also ask me this..

you should hav a valid reason such as no babies(coz of the wife).. or the wife is not giving him the pleasure that he wanted and he thinks if this continues.. he mite go in wrg way.. then this is accepted.. more overfemale polularity is larger than the men..

you mite say this is unfair to women. They can also leave the men and get married to somone else if she think she dont gt the pleasur from her husband.. and afraid she mite go in the wrg way..

That's why I said it is not fair to allow only women to suffer in the hot weather.

already answerd..

Decent clothes doesn't mean that you need to cover your whole body and suffer. you can wear a pair of pants and a nice T shirt.

wht defin the decent cloths.. T shirt and jeans.. will this be a standard for ever.. when time passes the standard changes.. if this change in a good way then its okey.. but with time the amount of dress decreases thats the problem. but islamic dress is a constant. it doest change...

That's the difference of Islam. Islam tells to punish the wrong doers. While the other religions practice 'forgiveness' (samaawa deema)

wht if the criminal doesnt change to a good man.. even if you forgive.. are you ready to forgiv him forever...

forgiving for criminal offence canot be done by human.. but forgiving for the cilvil offence can be done by the victim.. same as wht they practise in SL today..

but wht ever the crime.. allah forgiv them.. if the one who did the crime pleads.. and he gets the heven if allah forgives him.. but still for wht he has doneos far in earth the one who did the crime.. should go thro the punishment.. isn't this practical than forgiving...

Islam practices the old testament in the bible: An eye to eye, tooth to tooth.
All other religions follow the new testament in the bible: Love your god. Love thy naighbor as thy self.

why is there two tesament.. human made laws are included in it.. thats why we reject it.. bible changes time to time.. but quran doesnt...

the old testament may hav gods actual words thats why it has some similarities with quran..

So which is the better religion then bro?

still islam for me..

Human do those things. That's why we call them human.
Anyway that wasn't my point. My point was, a dress or a set of rules will not control ones behaviour.

what is the country having more rape .. australia or arab ?? look at some statistics..

Sorry. But I can't think of a life without pork, without alcohol, without few limbs, with girls covering their whole body etc etc etc. That's called suffering

still lord buddha says those are wrong, to have a peaceful life reject them.. so is he wrng??

Yes yes

Islam is not a religion. Islam is a set of rules by which you have to abide otherwise you will lose your limbs. Islam is not a practical way of life like what was preached by Jesus or Buddha.

islam is a total set of rules for human kind.. this world is not a place for pleasure.. its a place to arange our self to ahira(the life after death.. which has no end..)

 

[henderson]

but the society has made the criminals to have more rights than they deserve.. untill people understand the real situation.. islamic shariya wont be applicable.. but not because its not practical.. but because of the aspects men and women has toward them..

ok, what happened some innocent person caught as a robber and his arm was chopped off and, now the real robber was caught with proofs and what is going to happens? will Allah going to fix the arm of the innocent person?

 

[sri_lion]

but the society has made the criminals to have more rights than they deserve.. untill people understand the real situation.. islamic shariya wont be applicable.. but not because its not practical.. but because of the aspects men and women has toward them..

Islamic Law is effective against crime.. Agreed!!!

But that's all there is to it... there's more issues in society than Criminal issues.. and as a whole Shariah Law is a failure because it is only practical in getting the crime rate down... and as you can see there are more democratic societies than any other system in the world because (whatever loopholes it has) THE SYSTEM IS PRACTICAL OVERALL... and able to safeguard people's rights regardless of cast and creed!!

not usually but in sometimes.. as i tld.. if the judgment panel accept a criminal as a criminal deserv a maximum penalty.. well i think it should be correct.. islam doesnt ask a persons ahnd to be chopped off if he had a valid reason for the theft...

a murderer who murdered someone (think for his enjoyment or somthing like that) without any valid reason. should be murdered as well.. that is the maximum penallty.. or he should be in jail for ever.. that is sri lankan maximum penalty..

Again, this is good for totally Muslim nations because when you are bound and ruled by a religion... that basis itself is biased.... what do you expect.. standing infront of a panel of judges in Saudi how can you be confident of your case? you are a Buddhist and your opponent a Muslim and the country is full of Muslims it is ruled by Islam... even a 2nd grade kid can understand the odds!!!

People and crimes must be judged by more neutral entities such as science facts. etc

you know when tsunami attaccks men from jail got ascaped(specially the murderers having thier life time jailing) and even raped the dead ones.. has the sri lankan law changed a criminal.

if a man or a women who went tro islamic law will never get a chancce to to such an event.. coz god knows its very very hard to change a murderer of that type..

but when we consider thefts the the man gets the chance to change himself.. as not given max penaly of cutting off the hand.. if he did this theft for a valid reason..

Dude then I can ask the same question from you.... Arab beheading people from ancenit times in the name of Islam and Islamic law... so all the people are saints now?

man who steal for his hunger is not like the man who steal for earn money to be rich.. both are different.. so there should be a difference in judgment.. so when a persons hand is chopped off, that means he deserve it.. after that if he become a good man.. well of couse people should accept him.. but people wont accpet him at first. and he may hava a hard time.. but all these thigs were earn by his ouwn hand toward himself.. so he deserve em..

Are you saying when the person loose a hand he will become a good man? or will he get more depressed and curse the whole community... when you chop his hand off you are making him a burden on the society.. what if he has children and a wife? and this man was the only working adult?

Now they all gonna die because of the shariah law... do you think anyone would hire a man without a hand?

1. Because he was a convicted
2. Without a hand he is less productive

mind is the one which controls the body.. if you havnt got a soul then your dead.. a dead person in valueless.. that is.. body is just a tool for the soul..

Didn't get you... what you trying to say here!

im not trying to say that physical shape is letting him not do a theft.. its the fear that makes him not do the theft.. if he was a real muslim.. of coz he wont steal. but being not afraid to allah has made him steal.. i said before.. if there is a valid reason for the thesft.. the maximum penalty wil not be giiven..

Again... the system is biased and based upon Islam... a Muslim man may get away with warning where as a Buddhist may not.. so you being a Muslim maybe you have faith but I really dont because they measure your crime not from human perspective but from Q'ran's perspective...

Basically you trying punish a Buddhist, a Christian, a Hindu with Islamic Law? Is that itself FAIR?

so being not afraid to allah, result him to theft.. so there should be someother things which should control that thief.. that is the fear of the law.. anyhow.. the inal result should be the thieft should not steal agn.. if he is not ready to accept or understand the real stuffz in islam.. then of coz.. i think we should thik about the future victims of that theif..

That thief might not steal again... but funny that even GOD's law cannot make people stop doing it again and again.. and it is still happening.. is it not?

 

[DJ.Parker]

NO religon is better than the other as long as u know what to take and what to leave from a religion. So don't hang up in extreme ends.

Laws are made by men in order to secure their religions/society.

And this thread is supposed to be all about "All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds". But ur trying to show Islam is the best

 

[RajNOX]

ok, what happened some innocent person caught as a robber and his arm was chopped off and, now the real robber was caught with proofs and what is going to happens? will Allah going to fix the arm of the innocent person?

its a mistake of the judge.. nothing to do with the religion.. how many innercent people may hav been hanged mistakenly, even in other law methods...

if any unair is done to anyone by anyone.. they were all made into fair issues at last in the mahshar(the place where allah is gona giv all of us lifes again, after we died.. ) by letting the victim has his change towards the victimizer...

 

[RajNOX]

Islamic Law is effective against crime.. Agreed!!!

Again, this is good for totally Muslim nations because when you are bound and ruled by a religion... that basis itself is biased.... what do you expect.. standing infront of a panel of judges in Saudi how can you be confident of your case? you are a Buddhist and your opponent a Muslim and the country is full of Muslims it is ruled by Islam... even a 2nd grade kid can understand the odds!!!

this is not wht the law says.. the islamic law is equal to all. whedr its a muslim or a non-muslim.. the unfair caused is due to the judges personal issues. which god is gona punish him at last, if he does so...

People and crimes must be judged by more neutral entities such as science facts. etc
Dude then I can ask the same question from you.... Arab beheading people from ancenit times in the name of Islam and Islamic law... so all the people are saints now?

this is about the level of change.. this is about wht law is better.. if god can change the man just coz of a punishment itself.. then do u think he deserves heven for wht god made him do...

Are you saying when the person loose a hand he will become a good man? or will he get more depressed and curse the whole community... when you chop his hand off you are making him a burden on the society.. what if he has children and a wife? and this man was the only working adult?

wht happens if a man gets hanged for a murder.. does the law nowadays think about his family and let him go. I accept shariya law is a bit hard on criminals. but its just for the sake of controlling the crimes..

Now they all gonna die because of the shariah law... do you think anyone would hire a man without a hand?

1. Because he was a convicted
2. Without a hand he is less productive

wht happen to the family of the man who was hanged!!

Didn't get you... what you trying to say here!

you asked
"Crime is done physically... but where's the origin?"

Again... the system is biased and based upon Islam... a Muslim man may get away with warning where as a Buddhist may not.. so you being a Muslim maybe you have faith but I really dont because they measure your crime not from human perspective but from Q'ran's perspective...

as i said before.. no seperate laws for muslims and non-muslims... according to shariya...

Basically you trying punish a Buddhist, a Christian, a Hindu with Islamic Law? Is that itself FAIR?

that is whr this whole prob starts... a non-muslim will not accept this law system.. coz frm the outer world it seemz unfair..

That thief might not steal again... but funny that even GOD's law cannot make people stop doing it again and again.. and it is still happening.. is it not?

the man deserves the heven when he himself corected himself.. this laws are just for a help..

 

[x-pert]

he get afraid of the law.. if he is not afraid of god.. anyhow.. the theft is no longer..

Maybe the thief doesn't exist in its full shape. But after losing the limbs, how can he do a job and earn money and feed the children? So then he needs to send his children for prostitution? Or maybe he needs to become a beggar?
Or again steal using his children?

In other words, by getting rid of a persons limbs, the world creates few more wrong doers.... isn't it?

100% anything in islam is total the word of god..

If that is true, then it is very primitive. The point people have forgotten is that those philosophers lived many years ago. And their teachings are aligned with the culture, habits and norms which were in that time. They may or may not match the current culture, habits and norms. (Common to all realigions from my point of view)

i dont seen such a hole.. look at the problem in nutral manner.. who should you care most.. the one who did the crime or the one who is the victim.. say the crime has no valid reasons...

Look at the first answer.

And no, you're wrong. Every crime has a valid reason for that person. as you're instructing me, you also try to see in a nutral manner. The reason may be hunger for food, hunger for money, revenge or any other mental state.

no.. we cant get the interest.. its haramm. so we cant giv them to charities as well.. coz we dont deserv haram money..

Yes, I know. But how many Muslims rely on the interests? Or what do they do to that money?

think still the criminal dint change.. wht whould you do.. forgive him for ever...

i answer this ro sri lions question.. go thro it..

Yes, forgiving in the correct way will create an immense pressure in their minds than bodily harm. Bodily harm will not change their attitude. But a mental state like forgiving will change atleast a bit.

not 7.. its four.. there is a false idea thats been in the mind of budist.. most of ma frnd hav also ask me this..

you should hav a valid reason such as no babies(coz of the wife).. or the wife is not giving him the pleasure that he wanted and he thinks if this continues.. he mite go in wrg way.. then this is accepted.. more overfemale polularity is larger than the men..

you mite say this is unfair to women. They can also leave the men and get married to somone else if she think she dont gt the pleasur from her husband.. and afraid she mite go in the wrg way..

Yes it is unfair.

And your comment is wrong. Look at the current population. Female: male is almost the same. That's why I said earlier, those literatures were written a very long time ago. And some of it cannot be applied nowadays.

wht defin the decent cloths.. T shirt and jeans.. will this be a standard for ever.. when time passes the standard changes.. if this change in a good way then its okey.. but with time the amount of dress decreases thats the problem. but islamic dress is a constant. it doest change...

Again that's my point. Time is different and people are not the same. Earlier days people used to get stimulated by just seeing a woman's legs. Now they need to see more than just the legs... So if the time changes, no harm going into the topless culture we had earlier in Sri Lanka. pretty ironical isn't it While civilising, human kind goes back to the stone age But we can't stop it and if that's what the critical mass wants, so be it!

wht if the criminal doesnt change to a good man.. even if you forgive.. are you ready to forgiv him forever...

There is a good chance for that person to come to the correct path than removing his arms and legs.

forgiving for criminal offence canot be done by human.. but forgiving for the cilvil offence can be done by the victim.. same as wht they practise in SL today..

Yes, a legal system can do that. But not on a name of a religion. Especially the so called religion of love and peace.

but wht ever the crime.. allah forgiv them.. if the one who did the crime pleads.. and he gets the heven if allah forgives him.. but still for wht he has doneos far in earth the one who did the crime.. should go thro the punishment.. isn't this practical than forgiving...

Think from your own mind brother. We all have power. We all are gods.

why is there two tesament.. human made laws are included in it.. thats why we reject it.. bible changes time to time.. but quran doesnt...

the old testament may hav gods actual words thats why it has some similarities with quran..

Old testament is very much similar to Quaran. But after Jesus came to the world, he took a different path of true love and forgiving selflessness. Similar approach to Buddha. Niether book contains ONLY the words of the gods. They are written by people and overtime they have been editted to suit the best interest.

still islam for me..

Good man

what is the country having more rape .. australia or arab ?? look at some statistics..

It doesn't have anything to do with the dress. It's the culture, night life, open mindedness, alcohol etc.

still lord buddha says those are wrong, to have a peaceful life reject them.. so is he wrng??

I don't get what you're saying bro.

islam is a total set of rules for human kind.. this world is not a place for pleasure.. its a place to arange our self to ahira(the life after death.. which has no end..)

Ahira? Life after death? Nirvanaya?
Have you found any body who has enjoyed it? or gone through it? If not, how can you be so sure about it?

For me, being human is a treasure. and we should enjoy every moment of it happily andpeacefully, without any religios, cultural cages.

 

[x-pert]

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wht happens if a man gets hanged for a murder.. does the law nowadays think about his family and let him go. I accept shariya law is a bit hard on criminals. but its just for the sake of controlling the crimes..



wht happen to the family of the man who was hanged!!

Again I'm telling, punishments are necessary for a good society. But they should come from the Government/ ruling body of the country.

NOT from a religion. Religions are there to show the correct path. Especially Islam is considered by the Muslims as the religion of Love and Peace. So religion should be there to correct people and to show the right path. Not to make people disabled people. Civil Law of the country will do it if it is what's needed.

 

[nathasri]

All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds.(WITHOUT ISLAM)

 

[CoolCartoon]

Patali Champikai mawai mawweth Allah neda?

this make me lol.....