All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds.

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    All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds. Why should a person only follow Islam? Can he not follow any of the religions?

    ALL RELIGIONS TEACH MEN TO BE RIGHTEOUS, THEN WHY FOLLOW ONLY ISLAM?

    1. Major difference between Islam and most other religions

    All religions basically exhort mankind to be righteous and eschew evil. But Islam goes beyond that. It guides us towards practical ways of achieving righteousness and eliminating evil from our individual and collective lives. Islam takes into account human nature and the complexities of human society. Islam is guidance from the Creator Himself. Therefore, Islam is also called the Deen-ul-Fitrah (the natural religion of Man).

    2. Example - Islam commands us to shun robbery and also prescribes method of eliminating robbery

    a. Islam prescribes method of eliminating robbery

    All major religions teach that theft is an evil act. Islam teaches the same. So what is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam, besides teaching that robbing is evil, shows a practical way of creating a social structure in which people will not rob.

    b. Islam prescribes Zakaat

    Islam prescribes a system of Zakaat (obligatory annual charity). Islamic law prescribes that every person who has a saving that exceeds the nisaab level i.e. more than 85 grams of gold, should give 2.5% of that saving every lunar year in charity. If every rich person in the world gave Zakaat sincerely, poverty will be eradicated from this world. Not a single human being would die of hunger.

    c. Chopping off the hands as punishment for robbery

    Islam prescribes chopping off the hands of the convicted robber. The Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Maidah:
    "As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands:a punishment by way
    of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power, full of wisdom."
    [ Al-Qur’an 5:38]

    The non-Muslim may say, "Chopping off the hands in this 20th century. Islam is a barbaric and ruthless religion!"

    d. Results achieved when Islamic Shariah Implemented

    America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries in the world. Unfortunately it also has one of the highest rates of crime, theft, and robbery. Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America i.e. every rich person gives Zakaat ( 2.5% of his savings in charity above 85 grams of gold every lunar year), and every convicted robber has his or her hands chopped off as a punishment. Will the rate of theft and robbery in America increase, remain same or decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Moreover the existence of such a stringent law would discourage many a potential robber.

    I agree that the amount of theft that takes place in the world today is so tremendous that if you chop off the hands of all the thieves, there will be tens of thousands of people whose hands will be chopped off. The point here is that the moment you implement this law the rate of theft will decline immediately. The potential robber would give it a serious thought before jeopardizing his limbs. The mere thought of the punishment itself will discourage majority of the robbers. There will barely be a few who would rob. Hence only a few person’s hands would be chopped off but millions would live peacefully without fear of being robbed.

    Islamic Shariah is therefore practical, and achieves results.

    3. Example: Islam prohibits the molestation and rape of women. It enjoins hijaab and prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist.

    a. Islam prescribes method of eliminating molestation and rape

    All the major religions declare the molestation and rape of women as grave sins. Islam teaches the same. What then is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam does not merely preach respect for women, or abhor molestation and rape as serious crimes, but also gives clear guidance as to how society can eliminate such crimes.

    b. Hijaab for men

    Islam has a system of hijaab. The Glorious Qur’an first mentions hijaab for the men and then for the women. Hijaab for the men is mentioned in the following verse:

    "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do."
    [Al-Qur’an 24:30]

    The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.

    c. Hijaab for women

    Hijaab for women is mentioned in the following verse:

    "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons...."
    [Al-Qur’an 24:31]

    The extent of hijaab for a woman is that her complete body should be covered. The only part that can be seen, are the face and the hands up to the wrists. If they wish to cover, they can even cover these parts of the body. However some Islamic scholars insist that even the face should be covered.

    d. Hijaab prevents molestation

    The reason why Allah has prescribed Hijaab for the women is given in the Qur’an in the folowing verse of Surah Al-Ahzab:

    "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, most Merciful."
    [Al-Qur’an 33:59]

    The Qur’an says that Hijaab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women this would prevent them from being molested.

    e. Example of twin sisters

    Suppose two sisters who are twins and who are equally beautiful, walk down a street. One of them is wearing the Islamic Hijaab i.e. the complete body is covered except for the face and the hands up to the wrists, and the other twin is wearing a mini skirt or shorts. Around the corner there is a hooligan who is waiting for an opportunity to tease a girl. Who will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijaab or the girl wearing the mini skirt or shorts? Dresses that expose more than they conceal, are an indirect temptation to the opposite sex for teasing, molestation and rape. The Qur’an rightly says that the hijaab prevents women from being molested.

    f. Capital punishment for rapist

    The Islamic shariah prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist. The non-Muslim may be horrified at such a stringent punishment in this age. Many accuse Islam of being ruthless and barbaric. I have asked a common question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose God-forbid, some one rapes your wife, your mother or your sister and you are made the judge. The rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said, "we would put him to death." Some went to the extent of saying, "we would torture him to death", If your wife or your mother is raped you want the rapist to be put to death. But if someone else’s wife or mother is raped, capital punishment is a barbaric law. Why the double standards?

    g. U.S.A. has one of the highest rate of Rape

    The United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. An F.B.I report in the year 1990 says that 1,02,555 cases of rape were reported. It further says that only 16% of the cases of rapes are reported. Thus, in order to know the actual number of rapes that took place in 1990, the reported figure should be multiplied by 6.25. We get a total of 6,40,968 rape cases that took place in the year 1990. If the total is divided by 365 the number of days in a year, we get an average of 1,756 rape incidents everyday.

    Later another report said that an average of 1900 cases of rape are committed in U.S.A every day. According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of Justice Statistics (U. S. Dept. of Justice) in 1996 alone 3,07,000 cases of rape were reported. Only 31% of the actual cases of rape were reported. Thus, 3,07,000 X 3.226 = 9,90,322 rapes took place in 1996. That is, an average of 2,713 cases of rape took place everyday in America in 1996. Every 32 seconds one rape is taking place in America. Maybe American rapists got bolder. The FBI report of 1990 continues and says that out of the rape cases that were reported only 10% of the rapist were arrested, that is only 1.6% of the actual rapes committed. Out of those arrested, 50% were let free before the trial. This would mean that only 0.8% of the rapists faced a trial. In other words if a person commits 125 rapes the chances that he will get a punishment for rape is only once. Many would consider this a good gamble. And the report says that of those people who faced trial 50% received sentences of less than a year’s imprisonment though the American law says rape carries a seven year sentence of imprisonment. For a rapist, the judge is lenient to first time offenders. Imagine a person commits 125 rapes and the chances of being convicted is only once, and 50% of the time the judge will grant leniency and give a sentence of less than a year!

    h. Results achieved when Islamic Shariah Implemented

    Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic Hijaab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrists. After this if any man commits rape, he gets capital punishment. The question is, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same or will it decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Islamic Shariah gets results.

    4. Islam has Practical Solutions for the Problems of Mankind

    Islam is the best way of life because its teachings are not doctrinaire rhetoric but practical solutions for the problems of mankind. Islam achieves results both at the individual and collective levels. Islam is the best way of life because it is a practical, universal religion not confined to any ethnic group or nationality.
     

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    sirajstc said:
    ape agama gena kiyala denawa malli:)kattiyatama some body pplz danne ne ne so ekai demme:)

    nene monawath special ne:D

    thank you.
    ahh ok!.. na mama hithuwe mokakhari ada thiyenawa kiyala! :)
    good work!
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    Patali Champikai mawai mawweth Allah neda? :lol::lol:


    aniwaryenma....:lol: :lol: oya den wath piligaththa neda... e witharak nemey george bush wa mewweth allah tamay...

    oya inne koheda??? lankaweda / malaysia walada?????:no:
     

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    sri_lion said:
    Patali Champikai mawai mawweth Allah neda? :lol::lol:


    aniwaryenma....:lol: :lol: oya den wath piligaththa neda... e witharak nemey george bush wa mewweth allah tamay...

    oya inne koheda??? lankaweda / malaysia walada?????:no:
     

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    my opinion is, about USA, i agree there are frequent robberies and rapes. However there are other non-Muslim countries which have very low crime rates. So implementing those type of punishments is not the only solution.
     

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    Correction. Most religions teach followers to do good deeds. Btw, why is your thread titled "Most religions", and then continues to provide a lengthy discussion on one religion?
     

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    sirajstc said:

    ALL RELIGIONS TEACH MEN TO BE RIGHTEOUS, THEN WHY FOLLOW ONLY ISLAM?


    People get their religion mainly by birth. i.e. from their parents.
    Then many blindly follow it without looking / understanding other religions.

    sirajstc said:
    1. Major difference between Islam and most other religions

    All religions basically exhort mankind to be righteous and eschew evil. But Islam goes beyond that. It guides us towards practical ways of achieving righteousness and eliminating evil from our individual and collective lives. Islam takes into account human nature and the complexities of human society. Islam is guidance from the Creator Himself. Therefore, Islam is also called the Deen-ul-Fitrah (the natural religion of Man).
    If Islam goes beyond that, then it won't have so called laws like Sharia. Because if it's practical then people would easily follow it. Why putting laws?

    sirajstc said:
    2. Example - Islam commands us to shun robbery and also prescribes method of eliminating robbery

    a. Islam prescribes method of eliminating robbery

    All major religions teach that theft is an evil act. Islam teaches the same. So what is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam, besides teaching that robbing is evil, shows a practical way of creating a social structure in which people will not rob.
    Practical? Cutting arms and whipping is practical in the current society?

    sirajstc said:
    b. Islam prescribes Zakaat

    Islam prescribes a system of Zakaat (obligatory annual charity). Islamic law prescribes that every person who has a saving that exceeds the nisaab level i.e. more than 85 grams of gold, should give 2.5% of that saving every lunar year in charity. If every rich person in the world gave Zakaat sincerely, poverty will be eradicated from this world. Not a single human being would die of hunger.
    Is it practical? Can you show 100 muslims who earn more than 85 grams of gold and at least paying their taxes properly?
    sirajstc said:
    c. Chopping off the hands as punishment for robbery

    Islam prescribes chopping off the hands of the convicted robber. The Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Maidah:
    "As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands:a punishment by way
    of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power, full of wisdom."
    [ Al-Qur’an 5:38]

    The non-Muslim may say, "Chopping off the hands in this 20th century. Islam is a barbaric and ruthless religion!"
    Islam: A religion of love & peace as they say.... Asking to cut the hands?
    sirajstc said:
    d. Results achieved when Islamic Shariah Implemented

    America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries in the world. Unfortunately it also has one of the highest rates of crime, theft, and robbery. Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America i.e. every rich person gives Zakaat ( 2.5% of his savings in charity above 85 grams of gold every lunar year), and every convicted robber has his or her hands chopped off as a punishment. Will the rate of theft and robbery in America increase, remain same or decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Moreover the existence of such a stringent law would discourage many a potential robber.

    I agree that the amount of theft that takes place in the world today is so tremendous that if you chop off the hands of all the thieves, there will be tens of thousands of people whose hands will be chopped off. The point here is that the moment you implement this law the rate of theft will decline immediately. The potential robber would give it a serious thought before jeopardizing his limbs. The mere thought of the punishment itself will discourage majority of the robbers. There will barely be a few who would rob. Hence only a few person’s hands would be chopped off but millions would live peacefully without fear of being robbed.

    Islamic Shariah is therefore practical, and achieves results.
    LOL So, only a few hands? (Religion of love & peace)

    sirajstc said:
    3. Example: Islam prohibits the molestation and rape of women. It enjoins hijaab and prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist.

    a. Islam prescribes method of eliminating molestation and rape

    All the major religions declare the molestation and rape of women as grave sins. Islam teaches the same. What then is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam does not merely preach respect for women, or abhor molestation and rape as serious crimes, but also gives clear guidance as to how society can eliminate such crimes.
    Let's see how :)
    sirajstc said:
    b. Hijaab for men

    Islam has a system of hijaab. The Glorious Qur’an first mentions hijaab for the men and then for the women. Hijaab for the men is mentioned in the following verse:

    "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do."
    [Al-Qur’an 24:30]

    The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.
    Do men wear Hijabs all the time other than in Arabic countries nowadays?
    sirajstc said:
    c. Hijaab for women

    Hijaab for women is mentioned in the following verse:

    "And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons...."
    [Al-Qur’an 24:31]

    The extent of hijaab for a woman is that her complete body should be covered. The only part that can be seen, are the face and the hands up to the wrists. If they wish to cover, they can even cover these parts of the body. However some Islamic scholars insist that even the face should be covered.
    But men force their woman/ women to wear Hijabs.... Which is unfair.
    So cutting off limbs won't help isn't it? Women have to wear the hijab and suffer in the hot climates while the men enjoys?
    sirajstc said:
    d. Hijaab prevents molestation

    The reason why Allah has prescribed Hijaab for the women is given in the Qur’an in the folowing verse of Surah Al-Ahzab:

    "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, most Merciful."
    [Al-Qur’an 33:59]

    The Qur’an says that Hijaab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women this would prevent them from being molested.
    Agreed partially. (modest)
    But there are modest women who wear less clothes for comfort. And clothes won't prevent molestation. Rather, it will increase if everybody covers-up. Because people want to know what's inside always.
    sirajstc said:
    e. Example of twin sisters

    Suppose two sisters who are twins and who are equally beautiful, walk down a street. One of them is wearing the Islamic Hijaab i.e. the complete body is covered except for the face and the hands up to the wrists, and the other twin is wearing a mini skirt or shorts. Around the corner there is a hooligan who is waiting for an opportunity to tease a girl. Who will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijaab or the girl wearing the mini skirt or shorts? Dresses that expose more than they conceal, are an indirect temptation to the opposite sex for teasing, molestation and rape. The Qur’an rightly says that the hijaab prevents women from being molested.

    The woman in hijab will be teased first definitely. (If not in Arab)

    sirajstc said:
    f. Capital punishment for rapist

    The Islamic shariah prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist. The non-Muslim may be horrified at such a stringent punishment in this age. Many accuse Islam of being ruthless and barbaric. I have asked a common question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose God-forbid, some one rapes your wife, your mother or your sister and you are made the judge. The rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said, "we would put him to death." Some went to the extent of saying, "we would torture him to death", If your wife or your mother is raped you want the rapist to be put to death. But if someone else’s wife or mother is raped, capital punishment is a barbaric law. Why the double standards?
    Capital punishment is not a problem and should be enforced by the legal systems of the country. But the problem is, Muslims say that Islam is a religion of love and peace.​
    sirajstc said:
    g. U.S.A. has one of the highest rate of Rape

    The United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. An F.B.I report in the year 1990 says that 1,02,555 cases of rape were reported. It further says that only 16% of the cases of rapes are reported. Thus, in order to know the actual number of rapes that took place in 1990, the reported figure should be multiplied by 6.25. We get a total of 6,40,968 rape cases that took place in the year 1990. If the total is divided by 365 the number of days in a year, we get an average of 1,756 rape incidents everyday.

    Later another report said that an average of 1900 cases of rape are committed in U.S.A every day. According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of Justice Statistics (U. S. Dept. of Justice) in 1996 alone 3,07,000 cases of rape were reported. Only 31% of the actual cases of rape were reported. Thus, 3,07,000 X 3.226 = 9,90,322 rapes took place in 1996. That is, an average of 2,713 cases of rape took place everyday in America in 1996. Every 32 seconds one rape is taking place in America. Maybe American rapists got bolder. The FBI report of 1990 continues and says that out of the rape cases that were reported only 10% of the rapist were arrested, that is only 1.6% of the actual rapes committed. Out of those arrested, 50% were let free before the trial. This would mean that only 0.8% of the rapists faced a trial. In other words if a person commits 125 rapes the chances that he will get a punishment for rape is only once. Many would consider this a good gamble. And the report says that of those people who faced trial 50% received sentences of less than a year’s imprisonment though the American law says rape carries a seven year sentence of imprisonment. For a rapist, the judge is lenient to first time offenders. Imagine a person commits 125 rapes and the chances of being convicted is only once, and 50% of the time the judge will grant leniency and give a sentence of less than a year!
    Hijab won't stop it. Only restrictions for youth drinking, clubbing etc will reduce the number of rapes. How many people wear Hijabs in public and go to night clubs without it? ;)
    sirajstc said:
    h. Results achieved when Islamic Shariah Implemented

    Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic Hijaab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrists. After this if any man commits rape, he gets capital punishment. The question is, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same or will it decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Islamic Shariah gets results.
    Below part says it is practical, but the top says it's not.
    Human kind will suffer and there won't be any joy in being human anymore.
    sirajstc said:
    4. Islam has Practical Solutions for the Problems of Mankind

    Islam is the best way of life because its teachings are not doctrinaire rhetoric but practical solutions for the problems of mankind. Islam achieves results both at the individual and collective levels. Islam is the best way of life because it is a practical, universal religion not confined to any ethnic group or nationality.
    Practical you say again?

    EDIT:

    P:S: As long as the article says all religions say the same idea and same meaning, it is true. But NO religion is 'better' than another!
     
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    x-pert said:


    People get their religion mainly by birth. i.e. from their parents.
    Then many blindly follow it without looking / understanding other religions.


    If Islam goes beyond that, then it won't have so called laws like Sharia. Because if it's practical then people would easily follow it. Why putting laws?


    Practical? Cutting arms and whipping is practical in the current society?


    Is it practical? Can you show 100 muslims who earn more than 85 grams of gold and at least paying their taxes properly?

    Islam: A religion of love & peace as they say.... Asking to cut the hands?

    LOL So, only a few hands? (Religion of love & peace)


    Let's see how :)

    Do men wear Hijabs all the time other than in Arabic countries nowadays?

    But men force their woman/ women to wear Hijabs.... Which is unfair.
    So cutting off limbs won't help isn't it? Women have to wear the hijab and suffer in the hot climates while the men enjoys?

    Agreed partially. (modest)
    But there are modest women who wear less clothes for comfort. And clothes won't prevent molestation. Rather, it will increase if everybody covers-up. Because people want to know what's inside always.

    The woman in hijab will be teased first definitely. (If not in Arab)


    Capital punishment is not a problem and should be enforced by the legal systems of the country. But the problem is, Muslims say that Islam is a religion of love and peace.​

    Hijab won't stop it. Only restrictions for youth drinking, clubbing etc will reduce the number of rapes. How many people wear Hijabs in public and go to night clubs without it? ;)

    Below part says it is practical, but the top says it's not.
    Human kind will suffer and there won't be any joy in being human anymore.

    Practical you say again?

    EDIT:

    P:S: As long as the article says all religions say the same idea and same meaning, it is true. But NO religion is 'better' than another!

    Ko malli counter arguments?