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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AncientGlory" data-source="post: 8071280" data-attributes="member: 262433"><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I know what you mean. This is not the first time I have been presented  with this same logic. You are going with the watch maker analogy, maybe  knowingly maybe not.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Here you are making two assumptions.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(1) A complex entity has to have a designer/a creator</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">(2) If you find something complex and if you find out that it has a designer, you assume every complex thing in the Universe has to have a designer.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">There are so many flows with this logic, but I'm just gonna talk about one.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">You know that a complex and perfect design has a designer. the designer of the phone must have more complex design than the phone,(the man who made it), so the creator of the designer(i.e. His father) is also complex and superior. Likewise the GOD being more complex and superior and all knowing and everything must have a more superior creator right? Who is the GOD's father? Who created something as complex as GOD?</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">The question here is not about why it's difficult for me to understand there is a creator. The real question is who created the creator? You already stated that something cannot create itself.</span></span> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-size: 15px">So what created GOD? Who is the creator of that complex thing called GOD? </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>

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