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<blockquote data-quote="sirajstc" data-source="post: 7014245" data-attributes="member: 91140"><p><strong>Killing of innocent civilians?!</strong></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong>Killing of innocent civilians?!</strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong><a href="http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/did_prophet_muhammad_kill_innocents.htm" target="_blank">The Prophet Prohibited The Killing of Women and Children!</a></strong></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong> </strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #008000">(By Bassam Zawadi)</span></span></p><p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff"><a href="http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/no_killing_of_civilians.htm" target="_blank">The Prophet prohibited the killing of women and children.</a></span></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"> <span style="color: #008000">(By Karim)</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="font-size: 22px"><span style="color: #800000"><u>The Prophet Prohibited the Killing of Women and Children </u></span></span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #ff0000">There are so much hadith where the Prophet condemned the killing of innocent women and children during time of war that it is impossible to deny them. </span></span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"> </p><p> <u><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #008000"><strong>Saheeh Bukhari</strong></span></span></u></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 257.</u> </strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong>Narrated By 'Abdullah : During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children. </strong></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 258.</u> </strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong>Narrated By Ibn 'Umar : During some of the Ghazawat of Allah's Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.</strong></span><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"> </span></strong></span></p><p> <u><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #008000">Saheeh Muslim</span></span></strong></u></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Book 019, Hadith Number 4319.</u> </strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.</u> </strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong>It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He disapproved of the killing of women and children. </strong></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <u><span style="color: #808000"><strong>Book 019, Hadith Number 4320. </strong></span></u></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.</u> </strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong>It is narrated by Ibn 'Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles; so the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) forbade the killing of women and children.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <u><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #008000">Sunan Abu Dawood</span></span></u></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong>Book 008, Hadith Number 2663.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #808000"><strong>------------------------------</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #808000"><strong>Chapter : Not known.</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #808000"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #808000"><strong>Narated By Rabah ibn Rabi' : When we were with the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) on an expedition, he saw some people collected together over something and sent a man and said: See, what are these people collected around? He then came and said: They are round a woman who has been killed. He said: This is not one with whom fighting should have taken place. Khalid ibn al-Walid was in charge of the van; so he sent a man and said: <span style="font-size: 15px">Tell Khalid not to kill a woman or a hired servant.</span></strong></span><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #008000"><u>Maliks Muwatta</u></span></span></p><p> <u><span style="color: #808000"><strong>Book 021, Hadith Number 008. </strong></span></u></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.</u></strong></span><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #808000"> </span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #808000">Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that a son of Kab ibn Malik (Malik believed that ibn Shihab said it was Abd ar-Rahman ibn Kab) said, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade those who fought ibn Abi Huqayq (a treacherous jew from Madina) to kill women and children. He said that one of the men fighting had said, 'The wife of ibn Abi Huqayq began screaming and I repeatedly raised my sword against her. Then I would remember the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, so I would stop. Had it not been for that, we would have been rid of her.'"</span></strong><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Book 021, Hadith Number 009. </u></strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.</u></strong></span><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong>Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi from Ibn Umar that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, saw the corpse of a woman who had been slain in one of the raids, and he disapproved of it and forbade the killing of women and children.</strong></span><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> </p><p> <u><span style="color: #808000"><strong>Book 021, Hadith Number 010. </strong></span></u></p><p> <span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.</u></strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #808000">Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq was sending armies to ash-Sham. He went for a walk with Yazid ibn Abi Sufyan who was the commander of one of the battalions. It is claimed that Yazid said to Abu Bakr, "Will you ride or shall I get down?" Abu Bakrsaid, "I will not ride and you will not get down. I intend these steps of mine to be in the way of Allah." </span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #808000">Then Abu Bakr advised Yazid, "You will find a people who claim to have totally given themselves to Allah. Leave them to what they claim to have given themselves. You will find a people who have shaved the middle of their heads, strike what they have shaved with the sword.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #808000">"I advise you ten things| <span style="font-size: 18px">Do not kill women or children </span>or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly."</span></strong><span style="color: black"> </span></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"> </p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><u><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #800000">The Prophet made some exceptions to the Killing of Women and Children</span></span></u></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"> </p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><u><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #008000"><strong>Saheeh Bukhari</strong></span></span></u></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #808000"><u>Volumn 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 256.</u></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #808000"></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #808000">Narated By As-Sab bin Jaththama : The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."</span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"> </p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><u><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #008000">Saheeh Muslim</span></span></strong></u></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Book 019, Hadith Number 4321.</u></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #808000"><strong><u></u></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #808000"><strong><u>Chapter : Permissibility of killing women and children in the night raids, provided it is not deliberate.</u></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #808000"><strong></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #808000"><strong>It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.</strong></span></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"> </p><p> <span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>There are many possible meanings for these Hadith. I was kind of surprised when I read it at first. But we don’t know the EXACT situation or what the Prophet truly meant. Maybe, maybe THOSE particular women and children were planning to fight against the Muslims with the enemy.</strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Maybe the Muslim army just could not have blown this chance to attack the enemy that they still had to attack them no matter at what cost in order to stop the risk of more blood shed (do a little bad for the greater good).</strong></span></p><p> <span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>The very fact that the companions of the Prophet asked the Prophet's permission shows that the Prophet used to be strict regarding his prohibition on the killing of women and children. However, when a situation arises and there is no choice, things could get ugly. The Prophet even forbade the cutting down of palm trees in war, however during the siege of Banu Nadir the Prophet had to make an exception. So exceptions do arise unfortunately. </strong></span></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Imam Ibn Hajar Al Asaqalani says in <em>Fath Al- Baari </em>that the point is not to target the women and children intentionally but if there is absolutely no other way to kill the enemy than by injuring the women and children because they are mixed with the men then there is no other choice. </span><span style="color: #000000">(Source:</span><span style="color: #ff0000"> <a href="http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747" target="_blank">http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747</a></span><span style="color: #000000">)</span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Another possibility is that the hadith has been abrogated and that even if women and children accompany the enemy during war then they still should not be killed.</span> <span style="color: #ff0000">(See <a href="http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747" target="_blank">http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747</a> for the evidence)</span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">Imam Nawawi says in his tafseer of Saheeh Muslim that women and children are only killed only if they cannot be distinguished. But because it was so dark and they could not be distinguished, the Muslims had not choice. </span><span style="color: #000000">(Source:</span><span style="color: #ff0000"> <a href="http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747" target="_blank">http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=4215</a></span><span style="color: #000000">)</span></strong></p><p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="color: #ff0000">The tafseer of Abu Dawud says the same thing here</span><span style="color: #000000"> (Source: <a href="http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=4&Rec=3291" target="_blank">http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=4&Rec=3291</a>) </span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sirajstc, post: 7014245, member: 91140"] [b]Killing of innocent civilians?![/b] [CENTER][B]Killing of innocent civilians?![/B][/CENTER] [CENTER][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#0000ff][B][URL="http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/did_prophet_muhammad_kill_innocents.htm"]The Prophet Prohibited The Killing of Women and Children![/URL] [/B][/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#008000](By Bassam Zawadi)[/COLOR][/FONT][/CENTER] [CENTER][FONT=Arial][B][COLOR=#0000ff][URL="http://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/no_killing_of_civilians.htm"]The Prophet prohibited the killing of women and children.[/URL][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#008000](By Karim)[/COLOR][/FONT] [/CENTER] [LEFT][B][SIZE=6][COLOR=#800000][U]The Prophet Prohibited the Killing of Women and Children [/U][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#ff0000]There are so much hadith where the Prophet condemned the killing of innocent women and children during time of war that it is impossible to deny them. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [U][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]Saheeh Bukhari[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 257.[/U] [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B]Narrated By 'Abdullah : During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children. [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Volume 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 258.[/U] [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B]Narrated By Ibn 'Umar : During some of the Ghazawat of Allah's Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black][B][SIZE=5] [/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [U][B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000]Saheeh Muslim[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/U] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Book 019, Hadith Number 4319.[/U] [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.[/U] [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B]It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He disapproved of the killing of women and children. [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][/COLOR] [U][COLOR=#808000][B]Book 019, Hadith Number 4320. [/B][/COLOR][/U] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Chapter : Prohibition of killing women and children in war.[/U] [/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B]It is narrated by Ibn 'Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles; so the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) forbade the killing of women and children.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [U][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000]Sunan Abu Dawood[/COLOR][/SIZE][/U] [COLOR=#808000][B]Book 008, Hadith Number 2663. ------------------------------ Chapter : Not known. Narated By Rabah ibn Rabi' : When we were with the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) on an expedition, he saw some people collected together over something and sent a man and said: See, what are these people collected around? He then came and said: They are round a woman who has been killed. He said: This is not one with whom fighting should have taken place. Khalid ibn al-Walid was in charge of the van; so he sent a man and said: [SIZE=4]Tell Khalid not to kill a woman or a hired servant.[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][U]Maliks Muwatta[/U][/COLOR][/SIZE] [U][COLOR=#808000][B]Book 021, Hadith Number 008. [/B][/COLOR][/U] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.[/U][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR][B][COLOR=#808000] [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#808000]Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that a son of Kab ibn Malik (Malik believed that ibn Shihab said it was Abd ar-Rahman ibn Kab) said, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade those who fought ibn Abi Huqayq (a treacherous jew from Madina) to kill women and children. He said that one of the men fighting had said, 'The wife of ibn Abi Huqayq began screaming and I repeatedly raised my sword against her. Then I would remember the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, so I would stop. Had it not been for that, we would have been rid of her.'"[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Book 021, Hadith Number 009. [/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.[/U][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][B]Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi from Ibn Umar that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, saw the corpse of a woman who had been slain in one of the raids, and he disapproved of it and forbade the killing of women and children.[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#808000][/COLOR] [U][COLOR=#808000][B]Book 021, Hadith Number 010. [/B][/COLOR][/U] [COLOR=#808000][B][U]Section : Prohibition against Killing Women and Children in Military Expeditions.[/U][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#808000]Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said that Abu Bakr as-Siddiq was sending armies to ash-Sham. He went for a walk with Yazid ibn Abi Sufyan who was the commander of one of the battalions. It is claimed that Yazid said to Abu Bakr, "Will you ride or shall I get down?" Abu Bakrsaid, "I will not ride and you will not get down. I intend these steps of mine to be in the way of Allah." [/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#808000]Then Abu Bakr advised Yazid, "You will find a people who claim to have totally given themselves to Allah. Leave them to what they claim to have given themselves. You will find a people who have shaved the middle of their heads, strike what they have shaved with the sword.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#808000]"I advise you ten things| [SIZE=5]Do not kill women or children [/SIZE]or an aged, infirm person. Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees. Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty, and do not be cowardly."[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][U][SIZE=5][COLOR=#800000]The Prophet made some exceptions to the Killing of Women and Children[/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][U][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000][B]Saheeh Bukhari[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/U][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][COLOR=#808000][U]Volumn 004, Book 052, Hadith Number 256.[/U] Narated By As-Sab bin Jaththama : The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." I also heard the Prophet saying, "The institution of Hima is invalid except for Allah and His Apostle."[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT][U][B][SIZE=5][COLOR=#008000]Saheeh Muslim[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/U][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=#808000][B][U]Book 019, Hadith Number 4321. Chapter : Permissibility of killing women and children in the night raids, provided it is not deliberate.[/U] It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.[/B][/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [COLOR=#ff0000][B]There are many possible meanings for these Hadith. I was kind of surprised when I read it at first. But we don’t know the EXACT situation or what the Prophet truly meant. Maybe, maybe THOSE particular women and children were planning to fight against the Muslims with the enemy.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][B]Maybe the Muslim army just could not have blown this chance to attack the enemy that they still had to attack them no matter at what cost in order to stop the risk of more blood shed (do a little bad for the greater good).[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][B]The very fact that the companions of the Prophet asked the Prophet's permission shows that the Prophet used to be strict regarding his prohibition on the killing of women and children. However, when a situation arises and there is no choice, things could get ugly. The Prophet even forbade the cutting down of palm trees in war, however during the siege of Banu Nadir the Prophet had to make an exception. So exceptions do arise unfortunately. [/B][/COLOR] [LEFT][B][COLOR=#ff0000]Imam Ibn Hajar Al Asaqalani says in [I]Fath Al- Baari [/I]that the point is not to target the women and children intentionally but if there is absolutely no other way to kill the enemy than by injuring the women and children because they are mixed with the men then there is no other choice. [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000](Source:[/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000] [URL]http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747[/URL][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000])[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][COLOR=#ff0000]Another possibility is that the hadith has been abrogated and that even if women and children accompany the enemy during war then they still should not be killed.[/COLOR][COLOR=#808000] [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000](See [URL]http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747[/URL] for the evidence)[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][COLOR=#ff0000]Imam Nawawi says in his tafseer of Saheeh Muslim that women and children are only killed only if they cannot be distinguished. But because it was so dark and they could not be distinguished, the Muslims had not choice. [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000](Source:[/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000] [URL="http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=0&Rec=4747"]http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=1&Rec=4215[/URL][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000])[/COLOR][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][COLOR=#ff0000]The tafseer of Abu Dawud says the same thing here[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] (Source: [URL]http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Display.asp?Doc=4&Rec=3291[/URL]) [/COLOR][/B][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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