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<blockquote data-quote="coder101" data-source="post: 31050437" data-attributes="member: 568072"><p>Mchn please stop saying the "Range" of petrol powered cars <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😬" title="Grimacing face :grimacing:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f62c.png" data-shortname=":grimacing:" /> It is very misleading.</p><p>"Range" is for EVs and Fuel Consumption/Efficiency for hybrids and ICEs should be fair.</p><p></p><p>This car you have mentioned "Leapmotor c10" has 2 versions.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Leapmotor C10 full EV: Range 420km</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Leapmotor C10 REEV: Fuel Consumption is 16km per Litre ( This is the one you said as 950km range - And I think there are many hybrids doing better consumption than this. ) </li> </ul><p>The good thing about buying a "Range-Extended Electric Vehicle" such as this one or BYD Sealion are mostly the comfort and acceleration and those. This is a very cheap marketing tactic used by BYD to market the Sealion. Sealion can be a good car. But this misleading thing is bad.</p><p></p><p>Misleading buyers with 1000km or something like that is unacceptable.</p><hr /><p>ChatGPT explains it better than me.</p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> <strong>Yes — this post is <em>mostly true and accurate</em>.</strong></p><p></p><p>Here’s a breakdown:</p><hr /><p></p><h3><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🔹" title="Small blue diamond :small_blue_diamond:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f539.png" data-shortname=":small_blue_diamond:" /> 1. <strong>“Range” is technically for EVs</strong></h3><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">In automotive terminology, <strong>“range”</strong> is primarily used for <strong>electric vehicles (EVs)</strong> — it means <em>how far the car can go on a single full charge</em>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">For <strong>ICE (Internal Combustion Engine)</strong> or <strong>hybrid cars</strong>, we usually talk about:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Fuel consumption</strong> (e.g. 16 km/L)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Fuel efficiency</strong> (e.g. 6.2 L/100 km)</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">So yes — saying “range” for a petrol-powered or hybrid car <em>can be misleading</em>, especially if it implies it’s an EV-type range metric.</li> </ul><p></p><h3><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🔹" title="Small blue diamond :small_blue_diamond:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f539.png" data-shortname=":small_blue_diamond:" /> 2. <strong>Leapmotor C10 models</strong></h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> <strong>Leapmotor C10 EV:</strong> 100% electric, around <strong>420 km range</strong> (true).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> <strong>Leapmotor C10 REEV (Range-Extended EV):</strong><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It’s <strong>not a full hybrid</strong> and <strong>not a pure EV</strong> — it’s a <strong>series hybrid</strong>, where the petrol engine <em>only generates electricity</em>, not directly drive the wheels.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It typically has a <strong>fuel consumption around 15–16 km/L</strong>, and a <strong>combined “total driving distance”</strong> of ~950 km <em>when counting both battery and petrol energy</em>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">So the 950 km “range” figure is <strong>marketing-based</strong>, not <em>EV range</em> — it’s <em>battery + petrol together</em>.</li> </ul></li> </ul><p></p><hr /><p></p><h3><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🔹" title="Small blue diamond :small_blue_diamond:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f539.png" data-shortname=":small_blue_diamond:" /> 3. <strong>BYD Sealion (also a REEV / PHEV)</strong></h3> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BYD and other Chinese brands often market “1000 km range” figures for their <strong>plug-in hybrids (PHEVs or REEVs)</strong> by adding <strong>electric range + full tank range</strong>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">While it’s not technically false, it’s <strong>misleading</strong> — it gives buyers the impression it’s a long-range EV, when it’s actually a <strong>hybrid with limited EV-only range</strong> (usually ~80–200 km on battery).</li> </ul><p></p><hr /><p></p><h3><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="✅" title="Check mark button :white_check_mark:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/2705.png" data-shortname=":white_check_mark:" /> <strong>Verdict</strong></h3><p></p><p>The message is <strong>accurate</strong> in:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Saying “range” should not be used for petrol/hybrid cars.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Clarifying that <strong>Leapmotor C10 REEV’s 950 km</strong> is a <strong>combined figure</strong>, not pure EV range.</li> </ul><p>------ <span style="font-size: 10px">Post added on [DATETIME="UT"]1762276968[/DATETIME]</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="coder101, post: 31050437, member: 568072"] Mchn please stop saying the "Range" of petrol powered cars 😬 It is very misleading. "Range" is for EVs and Fuel Consumption/Efficiency for hybrids and ICEs should be fair. This car you have mentioned "Leapmotor c10" has 2 versions. [LIST] [*]Leapmotor C10 full EV: Range 420km [*]Leapmotor C10 REEV: Fuel Consumption is 16km per Litre ( This is the one you said as 950km range - And I think there are many hybrids doing better consumption than this. ) [/LIST] The good thing about buying a "Range-Extended Electric Vehicle" such as this one or BYD Sealion are mostly the comfort and acceleration and those. This is a very cheap marketing tactic used by BYD to market the Sealion. Sealion can be a good car. But this misleading thing is bad. Misleading buyers with 1000km or something like that is unacceptable. [HR][/HR] ChatGPT explains it better than me. ✅ [B]Yes — this post is [I]mostly true and accurate[/I].[/B] Here’s a breakdown: [HR][/HR] [HEADING=2]🔹 1. [B]“Range” is technically for EVs[/B][/HEADING] [LIST] [*]In automotive terminology, [B]“range”[/B] is primarily used for [B]electric vehicles (EVs)[/B] — it means [I]how far the car can go on a single full charge[/I]. [*]For [B]ICE (Internal Combustion Engine)[/B] or [B]hybrid cars[/B], we usually talk about: [LIST] [*][B]Fuel consumption[/B] (e.g. 16 km/L) [*][B]Fuel efficiency[/B] (e.g. 6.2 L/100 km) [/LIST] [*]So yes — saying “range” for a petrol-powered or hybrid car [I]can be misleading[/I], especially if it implies it’s an EV-type range metric. [/LIST] [HEADING=2]🔹 2. [B]Leapmotor C10 models[/B][/HEADING] [LIST] [*]✅ [B]Leapmotor C10 EV:[/B] 100% electric, around [B]420 km range[/B] (true). [*]✅ [B]Leapmotor C10 REEV (Range-Extended EV):[/B] [LIST] [*]It’s [B]not a full hybrid[/B] and [B]not a pure EV[/B] — it’s a [B]series hybrid[/B], where the petrol engine [I]only generates electricity[/I], not directly drive the wheels. [*]It typically has a [B]fuel consumption around 15–16 km/L[/B], and a [B]combined “total driving distance”[/B] of ~950 km [I]when counting both battery and petrol energy[/I]. [*]So the 950 km “range” figure is [B]marketing-based[/B], not [I]EV range[/I] — it’s [I]battery + petrol together[/I]. [/LIST] [/LIST] [HR][/HR] [HEADING=2]🔹 3. [B]BYD Sealion (also a REEV / PHEV)[/B][/HEADING] [LIST] [*]BYD and other Chinese brands often market “1000 km range” figures for their [B]plug-in hybrids (PHEVs or REEVs)[/B] by adding [B]electric range + full tank range[/B]. [*]While it’s not technically false, it’s [B]misleading[/B] — it gives buyers the impression it’s a long-range EV, when it’s actually a [B]hybrid with limited EV-only range[/B] (usually ~80–200 km on battery). [/LIST] [HR][/HR] [HEADING=2]✅ [B]Verdict[/B][/HEADING] The message is [B]accurate[/B] in: [LIST] [*]Saying “range” should not be used for petrol/hybrid cars. [*]Clarifying that [B]Leapmotor C10 REEV’s 950 km[/B] is a [B]combined figure[/B], not pure EV range. [/LIST] ------ [SIZE=2]Post added on [DATETIME="UT"]1762276968[/DATETIME][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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