Converting to Islam

[KINPIN]

same applies here, The Almighty God gave the same law that he gave to Moses and mercy is dere for the once who seeks and repents and punishment is also by the law.

Adultery has the same punishment which is similar to Holy Qur'an and the Old Testament.


Allah's Apostle said, "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that." Volume 4, Book 54, Number 538, Narrated Abu Huraira.

Prostitution is Adultery which has its own penalty, however int he above case, God Almighty simply forgives her for her good deed.

Forgiveness and Mercy is with God himself. God is the one who chooses an individual to be sent to heaven and hell. If an individual has repent for his sins and actions surely God is all Knowing and Merciful.

Regarding, 2 different Jesus and God( Muslims & Christians)

We shall both wait for the end of Times and see what happens if we are Lucky

May God Protect Guide us throught the correct Path

Again,

 

[Hettiarachi]

Islam: "Whoever Changes His Religion - Kill Him" II

There is a consensus by all four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (i.e., Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi, and Shafii), as well as Shiite jurists, that apostates from Islam must be put to death. Averroes (d. 1198): An apostate...is to be executed by agreement in the case of a man, because of the words of the Prophet, 'Slay those who change their din [religion]'.... (vol. 2, p. 552).

Even the contemporary (i.e., 1991) Al-Azhar (Cairo) Islamic Research Academy-endorsed Shafii manual of Islamic Law, 'Umdat al-Salik (pp. 595-96) states Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst.... When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed. In such a case, it is obligatory...to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed. Al-Azhar University ( الأزهر الشريف) is the "the leading institution for Sunni learning in the Islamic world".

The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

Qur'an (9:11-12) - "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist." The Hadith make no distinction of how a Muslim came to be a Muslim. Apostasy is always punished by death.

Other verses that seem to support the many Hadith demanding death for apostates are Qur'an verses 2:217, 9:73-74, 88:21, 5:54, and 9:66.

Advocates for killing apostates have pointed out that the supporting hadith are reliable and thus qualify as law according to verse 4:80 - "Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah."



From the Hadith:

The reason why executing apostates has always been well-ensconced in Islamic law is that there is an indisputable record of Muhammad and his companions doing exactly that.

Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "


Muslim kills .......

Bukhari (83:37) - "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations:

(1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,)
(2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and
(3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."




Bukhari (84:57) - "[In the words of] Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Bukhari (89:271) - A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to "the verdict of Allah and his apostle."

Bukhari (84:58) - "There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, 'Who is this (man)?' Abu Muisa said, 'He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism.' Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, 'I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice.' Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, 'Then we discussed the night prayers'"

Bukhari (84:64-65) - "Allah's Apostle: 'During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'"

Please note, Muslim apologetics normally quote verse 2:256 which states "Let there be no compulsion in religion, for truth stands out from error" and a fragment of verse 10:99-100, "Wouldst thou (Muhammad) compel men until they are believers?" They are abrogated by later verses, such as verse 9:29, which clearly commands Muslims to fight unbelievers until they relent and either accept Islam or a state of humiliation under Islamic rule (an obvious illustration of compulsion).

These apologists also ignore the fact that apostasy is not mere unbelief, but unbelief that follows belief, which neither of these verses address. Muhammad's recognition of the distinction is reflected in his own deeds, following his capture of Mecca, and in those of his companions following his death.


For more information, please visit:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

http://www.answering-islam.org/

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

Y2k, Several times I told you not to bring something which is out of context,that was quoted in anti islamic websites to portray islam is barbaric..still u keep on bringing the same as you also wish and want to quote islam falsely..I have no option but to call you as a liar..you don't have common sense to identify whether what was quoted is correct or not.neither you do any study on that before u post that. for eg.I will touch only 2items that u posted,to refute your quote r wrong and u r a liar,rather than wasting my time on your rubbish post.

01- with regards to your Qur'an (4:89) allegation, answer is next verse itself in next verse (4:90), what your friends Christians did was avoided quoting next verse and quote what is advantage for them for maligning Islam.

“If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (4:90)

So it clearly say, It was fought for against oppressors.

02-Qur'an (9:11-12), with this verse i dont find any mistake as such hope you r good in engish, if you don't know some words , go back to dictionary and see what is mentioned there. This full context 9:1 to 9:12 talks about a peace treaty between muslim & non muslims, Allah says even if u see you quoted versus it is clearly mentioned words such as if they break oaths, desist,and assail your religion,if u see dictionary itself is enough to understand why muslims were asked to fight.

Hope hereafter you will not copy& paste without looking the context, if u do so hereafter you will have to face real consequences. mentioned anti islamic websites are nothing but lies, this website http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm give all the replies to the this false websites.

 

[Y2K]

same applies here, The Almighty God gave the same law that he gave to Moses and mercy is dere for the once who seeks and repents and punishment is also by the law.

No May you people do not know that in New Testament told us to obey the law of the country

Adultery has the same punishment which is similar to Holy Qur'an and the Old Testament.

Mercy and Forgiveness came trough Jesus

Allah's Apostle said, "A prostitute was forgiven by Allah, because, passing by a panting dog near a well and seeing that the dog was about to die of thirst, she took off her shoe, and tying it with her head-cover she drew out some water for it. So, Allah forgave her because of that." Volume 4, Book 54, Number 538, Narrated Abu Huraira.

Prostitution is Adultery which has its own penalty, however int he above case, God Almighty simply forgives her for her good deed.

Forgiveness and Mercy is with God himself. God is the one who chooses an individual to be sent to heaven and hell. If an individual has repent for his sins and actions surely God is all Knowing and Merciful.

everything has its own cost forgiveness comes trough Jesus only brother

Regarding, 2 different Jesus and God( Muslims & Christians)

We shall both wait for the end of Times and see what happens if we are Lucky

Yeah but I feel so sorry if you do not b'live in Jesus at that time you won't be saved but you have enough time (I am telling you the truth in the name of Jesus Christ)

the other differece is Jesus is alive so you can ask his guidance if you like so I will also pray for you do wait until it is too late, next time he come to judge the world

May God Protect Guide us throught the correct Path

Again,

Yeah you can say a small prayer like this

"Dear Jesus Christ if you truely the GOD please reveal it to me " Amen

 

[Y2K]

Y2k, Several times I told you not to bring something which is out of context,that was quoted in anti islamic websites to portray islam is barbaric..still u keep on bringing the same as you also wish and want to quote islam falsely..I have no option but to call you as a liar..you don't have common sense to identify whether what was quoted is correct or not.neither you do any study on that before u post that. for eg.I will touch only 2items that u posted,to refute your quote r wrong and u r a liar,rather than wasting my time on your rubbish post.

01- with regards to your Qur'an (4:89) allegation, answer is next verse itself in next verse (4:90), what your friends Christians did was avoided quoting next verse and quote what is advantage for them for maligning Islam.

“If they leave you alone and offer to make peace with you, God does not allow you to harm them.” (4:90)

So it clearly say, It was fought for against oppressors.

02-Qur'an (9:11-12), with this verse i dont find any mistake as such hope you r good in engish, if you don't know some words , go back to dictionary and see what is mentioned there. This full context 9:1 to 9:12 talks about a peace treaty between muslim & non muslims, Allah says even if u see you quoted versus it is clearly mentioned words such as if they break oaths, desist,and assail your religion,if u see dictionary itself is enough to understand why muslims were asked to fight.

Hope hereafter you will not copy& paste without looking the context, if u do so hereafter you will have to face real consequences. mentioned anti islamic websites are nothing but lies, this website http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm give all the replies to the this false websites.

I have nothing to say to you my brother

I feel so sorry about you anyway thank you for the explaination

 

[Y2K]

I am ready to argue about Quran , I wil bring all verses with my own arguements

these websites may be anti-islamic but those quotes are from your holy book I can prove it if you challenge me

bottem line is "something is very wrong with this so called "Religion of Peace"

 

[Hettiarachi]

I have nothing to say to you my brother

I feel so sorry about you anyway thank you for the explaination

of course u won't have anything to say on your lies.

 

[Y2K]

The consequences of leaving Islam in the USA.

Let them speak the truth

 

[Y2K]

Muslim Imam: its ok to kill non-muslims

 

[Hettiarachi]

I am ready to argue about Quran , I wil bring all verses with my own arguements

these websites may be anti-islamic but those quotes are from your holy book I can prove it if you challenge me

bottem line is "something is very wrong with this so called "Religion of Peace"

Sites that hide the important info, and misguide to malign islam is called anti islam websites. I have already proved in my earlier reply for your false quote

of course bottom line is something very wrong with you and your christian friends, that has to be sorted out.

I am ready for your challenge, my religion is not based on fiction like yours, I'm pleased to accept your challenge, Inshallah I am going to beat you one by one..Come on man! bring one by one...not in the form of essays to irritate me...All people who see this site will be witnessing our Debate and let them understand Christians are big liars...

 

[Y2K]

Ithin dan oya mokadda meken kiyanna uthsaha karanne? apitat convert wenna kiyalada? me sirawata wena wadak nadda ? ubat dan zakir naya ge job eka baragatta da?

there are lots of Zakir like people in SL as well

 

[Y2K]

Sites that hide the important info, and misguide to malign islam is called anti islam websites. I have already proved in my earlier reply for your false quote

of course bottom line is something very wrong with you and your christian friends, that has to be sorted out.

I am ready for your challenge, my religion is not based on fiction like yours, I'm pleased to accept your challenge, Inshallah I am going to beat you one by one..Come on man! bring one by one...not in the form of essays to irritate me...All people who see this site will be witnessing our Debate and let them understand Christians are big liars...

OK just you and me ok only on quran you have to justify every horrible bad thing which allah has ordered ok


I will open a new thread

 

[Y2K]

Christian GOD vs Islamic God

in Islam ..... found adultory

These women were sentenced with lashes and now stoning to death.

This is what did Jesus do ....... (He has all authority to forgive sins because he is equal to GOD)

Same kind of people were there try to stone her and try to fool Jesus

1 But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

11 “No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.” John 8:1-11

WHY JESUS NEVER LET THEM STONE THAT WOMEN ACCORDING TO OLD LAW?

 

[Hettiarachi]

The consequences of leaving Islam in the USA.

I'm sorry to see ur post so silly, and make me me doubt, are we going to debate on followers of any religion or scriptures..if its followers I have many too,,but we will end up no where..I prefer scriptures..come on!! one by one!!

 

[Y2K]

There is a consensus by all four schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (i.e., Maliki, Hanbali, Hanafi, and Shafii), as well as Shiite jurists, that apostates from Islam must be put to death. Averroes (d. 1198): An apostate...is to be executed by agreement in the case of a man, because of the words of the Prophet, 'Slay those who change their din [religion]'.... (vol. 2, p. 552).

මෙකයි එ කාලේ මෙ අය කටට එන එක කිව්ව නිසා අද මුස්ලිම් අයටත් කට උත්තර නැ, ඉතින් පුරසාරම් දොඩනවා ඇරෙන්න වෙන ක්‍රමයක් නැ මුස්ලිම් කරණය වියාප්ත කරන්න නමුත් මෙහෙම කතාවක් කියලා තියෙන්වා මොහොමඩ් තුමා පොඩ්ඩක් හොදට අපක්ශපාතිව කියවලා බලන්න

Take a look around bro

 

[Hettiarachi]

OK just you and me ok only on quran you have to justify every horrible bad thing which allah has ordered ok


I will open a new thread

OK

 

[Y2K]

The consequences of leaving Islam in the USA.

I'm sorry to see ur post so silly, and make me me doubt, are we going to debate on followers of any religion or scriptures..if its followers I have many too,,but we will end up no where..I prefer scriptures..come on!! one by one!!

I prefer the word of the GOD but let me finish on this one

 

[Y2K]

අපි දැන් බලමු මේ අය කොහොමද මේ මරණ දඩුවම එහෙමත් නැතිනම් ඉස්ලාම් දහම හැර යන අයට හිමි වන මරණ දඩුවම කෙසෙද සාදාරනිකරනය කරන්නෙ කියලා?

Dr zak niak justifing murdering for apostates (those who leave islam)

If you want to leave islam you cant unless you want to be murdered as per shariah (islamic law) traditions. What kind of religion forces its adherants to stay within the religion if their heart is not in it?

Fear And Control = Islam

Do you want to be scared all your life? or do you want to break free the shackles of islam and muhammad has on you.

මේ හදයා පිලිගෙන තියෙනවා ඉස්ලමය හැරයන අයට අත්වන ඉරනම ගැන නමුත් සදාරනීයකරණය කරන්න බොරු තොගයක් දිග හරිනවා


ඔච්චරටම ස්වර් නම් එන අය අයෙත් යනනෙ නැ කියලා එම නිතිය ඉවත් කරන්නෙ නැත්තෙ මන්ද? එහෙම කරානම් ඉස්ලාමය වදවන බවට සැකද?

 

[Hettiarachi]

I prefer the word of the GOD but let me finish on this one

OK GOOD SURE THATS WHAT I ALSO WANT..ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR QURAN QUOTES I TOO WILL DEBATE WITH YOU WITH YOUR BIBLE..THIS IS ONE OF THE CONDITION....YOU CAN ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS U WANT EVEN IF IT LAST FOR ONE MONTH IS OK FOR ME.

 

[Y2K]

OK

Mchan we have to agree on certain rules right

Let other elakirians be the judge

 

[Y2K]

OK GOOD SURE THATS WHAT I ALSO WANT..ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR QURAN QUOTES I TOO WILL DEBATE WITH YOU WITH YOUR BIBLE..THIS IS ONE OF THE CONDITION....YOU CAN ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS U WANT EVEN IF IT LAST FOR ONE MONTH IS OK FOR ME.

Ha ha you said you can prove that Quran is right ok so first we debate about Quran it is ok ?

But no cut and paste stuff

it should be very short

Other thing is we have to agree on the particular version as well

no other can interfere ok just you and me