Covishield- Blood Clot

saw1993

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    Guys,

    I came to know that 30 deaths from blood clotting in brain ( CVST) after taking CoviShield vaccine. (From 18 million vaccinations ,UK)

    Is there any test to check the possibility of clotting after getting this vaccine? Can we guess it from a FBS, platelet count?

    PS: NO POLITICS

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    sam_sajith

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    Guys,

    I came to know that 30 deaths from blood clotting in brain ( CVST) after taking CoviShield vaccine. (From 18 million vaccinations ,UK)

    Is there any test to check the possibility of clotting after getting this vaccine? Can we guess it from a FBS, platelet count?

    PS: NO POLITICS

    Thank you
    Try to get the news sources. as I have been following this from last two weeks, most of the authorities are now claiming this benefits of the vaccine outweighs this rise as there is a small bit of number came thought claiming the same.

    WHO claims the same, but as a matter of reality I wouldn't trust WHO anymore because of the way they responded to covid just favouring china.

    I think most of the nations will continue to use this vaccine over any issues,

    Pfizer, Modena, J&J, Russian one and the so called Chinese one also in a roll-out now
     

    saw1993

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    Try to get the news sources. as I have been following this from last two weeks, most of the authorities are now claiming this benefits of the vaccine outweighs this rise as there is a small bit of number came thought claiming the same.

    WHO claims the same, but as a matter of reality I wouldn't trust WHO anymore because of the way they responded to covid just favouring china.

    I think most of the nations will continue to use this vaccine over any issues,

    Pfizer, Modena, J&J, Russian one and the so called Chinese one also in a roll-out now
    Source : https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56620646

    Thats why I am researching this all over. They are just focusing only on lighter side.

    I went to a doctor and asked the same , he told me the percentage is so small and its neglible, no need to worry. How can I argue after that?
     

    sam_sajith

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    Source : https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56620646

    Thats why I am researching this all over. They are just focusing only on lighter side.

    I went to a doctor and asked the same , he told me the percentage is so small and its neglible, no need to worry. How can I argue after that?
    This is New, that's why not even an experienced physician will not be able to guide you properly, however as per my readings, even covid can cause blood clots so I guess we have to just leave it and get the Jab, because I also believe vaccine is the ultimate solution for this, I took the first one three weeks back and expecting to get the second Jab, but if i was given a choice I would have gone for J&J or Pfizer.
     

    saw1993

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    This is New, that's why not even an experienced physician will not be able to guide you properly, however as per my readings, even covid can cause blood clots so I guess we have to just leave it and get the Jab, because I also believe vaccine is the ultimate solution for this, I took the first one three weeks back and expecting to get the second Jab, but if i was given a choice I would have gone for J&J or Pfizer.
    I came to know that the immuity of the vaccine is high when two doses are take from different manufactures. don't know they manipulate this to give the seconnd dose from other manufacturer
     

    sam_sajith

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    I came to know that the immuity of the vaccine is high when two doses are take from different manufactures. don't know they manipulate this to give the seconnd dose from other manufacturer
    Ummmm I doubt that, if the vaccines are made out of same technology then it's possible but if they are two, then I would say highly Unlike, if you take Modena and Pfizer, they are made of mRNA technology but aztrazenica is viral vector.

    But I think we are not wiser enough to argue but lets be aware what's happening
     

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    I came to know that the immuity of the vaccine is high when two doses are take from different manufactures. don't know they manipulate this to give the seconnd dose from other manufacturer
    Yes... I mentioned this a long time ago. Many believe that the Oxford vaccine with the Russian booster (as the second dose) is the best combination. Some trials were done both in Europe and in Russia. Haven't seen any published results yet.

    PS: As for your query on CVST, recently some group of scientists did some research on it and published a report and please find below the details. It's not much useful other than offering some clues. It's only useful for a medical researcher who is able to follow it up.

    Methods. We summarized the clinical and laboratory features of 9 patients in Germany and Austria who developed thrombosis and thrombocytopenia events following AZD1222 vaccination. Serum from four patients was used to test for anti-PF4/heparin antibodies, both by immunoassay and by platelet activation assays performed in the presence of heparin, PF4, or both.

    Results. The 9 patients (8 female; median age, 36 [range, 22—49) presented with thrombosis beginning 4 to 16 days post-vaccination: 7 patients had cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT), 1 had pulmonary embolism, and 1 had splanchnic vein thrombosis and CVT; 4 patients died. None had received heparin prior to symptom onset. All four patients tested strongly positive for anti-PF4/heparin antibodies by immunoassay; all 4 patients tested strongly positive in the platelet activation assay in the presence of PF4 independently of heparin. Platelet activation was inhibited by high concentrations of heparin, Fc receptor-blocking monoclonal antibody, and intravenous immunoglobulin.

    Conclusions. The AZD1222 vaccine is associated with development of a prothrombotic disorder that clinically resembles heparin-induced thrombocytopenia but which shows a different serological profile.

    PPS: The above is NOT to scare people away from the Oxford or any other vaccine. Every vaccine has some side effects with a small number of people.
    As of now Globally 673,509,296 people have been vaccinated including 167,187,795 (USA), 139,970,000 (China), 80,261,503 (EU), 79,105,163 (India), 37,013,740 (UK)... etc - But deaths due to vaccines (either directly or suspected) are nothing compared with the doses given.
    2,873,556 people lost their lives due to Covid (This will be more if you add the real death count in China) So don't worry about the vaccine.
    So as you said there's no argument about the vaccine. Until someone develops a new anti-viral against the Covid virus nobody has an alternate choice.



    https://elakiri.com/threads/oxford-vaccine-thrombosis-with-thrombocytopenia-syndrome.1983028/
    ------ Post added on Apr 9, 2021 at 6:15 AM
     
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    saw1993

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    Yes... I mentioned this a long time ago. Many believe that the Oxford vaccine with the Russian booster (as the second dose) is the best combination. Some trials were done both in Europe and in Russia. Haven't seen any published results yet.

    PS: As for your query on CVST, recently some group of scientists did some research on it and published a report and please find below the details. It's not much useful other than offering some clues. It's only useful for a medical researcher who is able to follow it up.

    Methods. We summarized the clinical and laboratory features of 9 patients in Germany and Austria who developed thrombosis and thrombocytopenia events following AZD1222 vaccination. Serum from four patients was used to test for anti-PF4/heparin antibodies, both by immunoassay and by platelet activation assays performed in the presence of heparin, PF4, or both.

    Results. The 9 patients (8 female; median age, 36 [range, 22—49) presented with thrombosis beginning 4 to 16 days post-vaccination: 7 patients had cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT), 1 had pulmonary embolism, and 1 had splanchnic vein thrombosis and CVT; 4 patients died. None had received heparin prior to symptom onset. All four patients tested strongly positive for anti-PF4/heparin antibodies by immunoassay; all 4 patients tested strongly positive in the platelet activation assay in the presence of PF4 independently of heparin. Platelet activation was inhibited by high concentrations of heparin, Fc receptor-blocking monoclonal antibody, and intravenous immunoglobulin.

    Conclusions. The AZD1222 vaccine is associated with development of a prothrombotic disorder that clinically resembles heparin-induced thrombocytopenia but which shows a different serological profile.

    PPS: The above is NOT to scare people away from the Oxford or any other vaccine. Every vaccine has some side effects with a small number of people.
    As of now Globally 673,509,296 people have been vaccinated including 167,187,795 (USA), 139,970,000 (China), 80,261,503 (EU), 79,105,163 (India), 37,013,740 (UK)... etc - But deaths due to vaccines (either directly or suspected) are nothing compared with the doses given.
    2,873,556 people lost their lives due to Covid (This will be more if you add the real death count in China) So don't worry about the vaccine.
    So as you said there's no argument about the vaccine. Until someone develops a new anti-viral against the Covid virus nobody has an alternate choice.



    https://elakiri.com/threads/oxford-vaccine-thrombosis-with-thrombocytopenia-syndrome.1983028/
    ------ Post added on Apr 9, 2021 at 6:15 AM
    Thanks for sharing, According to this study the symptoms should be there after 4 to 16 days? So nothing to worry after one month after taking the vaccine?