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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kalyanamithra" data-source="post: 2383731" data-attributes="member: 99586">The phrase Dhamm Chakka was used by Sammasambuddha Sutta (I think we can find it in: Sacca vibhanga Sutta..). I do not care about the symbol; and I revere all symbols that represent Dhamma. Problem is the symbol we use in terms of "Dhamma Chakka" does not convey the meaning of the phrase "Dhamma Chakka" in Dhamma. The "inventors" could have called that symbol some thing else (why Dhamma Chakka? that's because of lack of Shraddha...) easily without creating conflict with original meaning...Now people do not know what "Dhamma Chakkara" is; the meaning Buddha used the phrase... Think how many of us know what it is! Some of us would at least remember the symbol being used by acceptance (and which one? there seems to be many versions/ interpretations) Isn't it sad to see original words of Buddha getting hidden by Myths all because of we lacking Shradhha...It was not that way e.g. in the times of Ashoka. The symbol was used to represent Buddha (recall they do not have statues those days).Making the things worse people attaching different meanings to it.. and none of them related to original meanings... What do you think about the meaning "Ata Lo Dahama"? Do you think it is related to the meaning Buddha conveyed through using the phrase "Dhamma Chakka"? Are you accepting it just because a Thero wrote it? Is it the way we Shrawakas should accept things... (And personally advise you to check facts of Dhamma in the books against Dhamma; getting this symbol wrong won't make much harm; but not all facts in books even by very much revered Theros are not correct.. We should cultivate the habit of checking against Dhamma... I feel it lacking in many of us...)Personally I feel the meaning "Ata Lo Dahama" clearly conflicting with the way the phrase "Dhamma Chakka" is used in Dhamma. What do you mean then by "dhamma chakka pavatthanaya"? And I have Shraddha to accept what in the original teachings irrespective of who tells me it differently.I suggest reading/listening to Chakkawathi Sihanada Sutta. There it says how a chakkawarthi king "pavatwattana" his chakkra... it is with a similar meaning Buddha uses Dhamma Chakka. Because the way a Buddha makes the chakkra "rolling" while spreading Dhamma can be paralleled to what a chakkawarthi king does... A Deshana on the Sutta by Ven. Kiribathgoda Gnanananda Thero is found <a href="http://www.gautamabuddha.ca/bana/sinhala/021_Chakkawatti_sihanada_sutta.mp3" target="_blank">here</a>.If we do not see Shraddha growing in us sufficient to use the words without distorting; orif we tend to accept things as in Dhamma just because we see it in books (I am not referring to Tipitaka) we should double check if we are in the correct Path... Theruwan saranai!</blockquote>

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