Finally bought a new video card...

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Anusha said:
But what's point of having a 2 X1600 cards which would cost 40000 if you buy now, and still perform SLOWER than my overclocked Rs. 9500 card or about same?

X1650Pro is not good either. You need X1650XT which is about the speed of a 7600GT. And ATI offering use helluva lot of power than nVidia offering - not only in the enthusiast level, but in the midrange as well. I believe my video card uses more power than the 7600GT. So 2 X1600 cards will require quite a lot of power.

Besides, you need motherboards which have two PCI-E 16x ports to run them in Crossfire. Those motherboards aren't cheap either. And Crossfire doesn't always deliever the performance of a comparable single graphics card.

Remember, you can't play NFS Carbon well on a X1600 card unless it's a X1650Pro or XT with all the details set to max.

Well...... probably in SL its not a good idea ( i would'nt have bought it either) to buy 2 for 40k because its DAMN expensive! But sooner or later you're gonna have to upgrade your VGA so why not get a "CROSSFIRE" version?? When its costs almost same!!

Yes you need motherboards with 2 PCI-E slots that's agreed!!! But DUAL CARDS COMBINED DOES'NT DELIVER the goods????? No..... STRONGLY DISAGREE!! I've seen it... I've played on it!!! Its as smooth as silk!!!

Becuase when redering the frames the cards take turns (for example odd and even frames will be taken over by different cards) so it makes it more fatser!!!!!! :yes: :yes: and there are many other redering modes!!!!!

Only issue here is as you said the motherboard but.... PCIe slots already a regulation thing in motherboards!!!!
 

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sri_lion said:
Well...... probably in SL its not a good idea ( i would'nt have bought it either) to buy 2 for 40k because its DAMN expensive! But sooner or later you're gonna have to upgrade your VGA so why not get a "CROSSFIRE" version?? When its costs almost same!!

Yes you need motherboards with 2 PCI-E slots that's agreed!!! But DUAL CARDS COMBINED DOES'NT DELIVER the goods????? No..... STRONGLY DISAGREE!! I've seen it... I've played on it!!! Its as smooth as silk!!!

Becuase when redering the frames the cards take turns (for example odd and even frames will be taken over by different cards) so it makes it more fatser!!!!!! :yes: :yes: and there are many other redering modes!!!!!

Only issue here is as you said the motherboard but.... PCIe slots already a regulation thing in motherboards!!!!

Crossfire delivers. But not always. There are few games which are not yet supported. In fact, they perform slower than the exact single card setups. If you have bought X1900 series card, sure crossfire is very important because you wouldn't want to throw that Rs.50,000 card away when you buy a new one. But for X1600 cards, I think you should collect some more money or wait a little and buy a 7600GT card.

Anyway, my point it, why buy two X1600 cards if they TOGETHER perform slower than an X800XT? Well, you have to unlock your X800GTO card and overclock to reach that performance. But still, it's only Rs.9,500 and two X1600 cards will be US$250 even in USA (for both cards). The only, I repeat, "the only" advantage X1600 cards have over X800 series is pixel shader 3 support. But the X1600's performance is so low that PS3 support will make things worse.

X1650XT's story is different though. It's a fast card, which is on par with 7600GT. But not the best card for a HTPC because it uses a lot more power.

If you really wanna compare the video cards, here's a good place to look.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=556&model2=568&chart=199

Clearly, X800GTO is no match for a 7600GT, until you unlock those 4 pipelines and overclock to X800XT speeds. Then, in some case, X800GTO is faster than 7600GTs in SLI (when you use very high AA and AF levels).

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When you compare results at tomshardware, don't check the lowest settings. Check for the most demanding settings, such as 1600x1200 4X AA and 8X AF. X1600 cards are pathetic.

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Unbelievable how X800XT is as fast as a 7800GT. http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html?modelx=33&model1=556&model2=568&chart=211

And I have to agree that nVidia cards are simply untouchable in OpenGL games. :( It's a driver issue. ATI still haven't been able to get it to work.
 
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Michael said:
Holy Shit! Wow! Maara Graphics Ney! Lucky Guyz Ha! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Of course I'm lucky; but not because I had the money to buy this card. I was hoping to buy a more expensive card if I could find one.

Why I consider myself lucky is that my card could be unlocked and overclocked to at least halfway between X800XL and X800XT. I guess I will check how much this can overclock when I go home. I need to reach X800XT speeds :frown:

Since I will overclock only when I'm playing, I think it will be safe. Hell, I used to overclock my 9600Pro which didn't even have a fan, until it locked my PC. :D

Another reason why I think it is safe to overclock is because this card has the same GPU as X850XT which is codenamed R480. Normal X800GTOs has R430 GPU which doesn't overclock as well. So I guess even 520MHz on the GPU is still safe. But have to check whether they use the same heatsink as the X850XT on my X800GTO, otherwise mine could run hotter at those clock speeds and finally burn :(
 

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Novindu said:
ya bunzz dats what i said to buy all dose stuff..... with 2Gb ram including:lol::lol:

:lol: Even I don't still have 2GB RAM. Waiting for the prices to go down. People are speculating that prices will not go down until next year :(
 

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Just found out that I can run the core at 520MHz stably. RAM overclock is lower than before for a yet unexplainable reason. But still it can run at 530MHz (x2) stably. This is now almost an X850XT. Only memory is running 10MHz lower.

The display would go blank when the core clock reaches 530MHz. This is not because the core can't handle it, but because this card does have the external power connector as the X50XT has. So it runs out of power at those clock speeds. If it had the connector, it would surely overclock further.

Anyway, i should be happy with this achievement. It's 50% more speed than the X800GTO.
 

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Michael said:
Shit! That's Damn Graphics. :cool: :cool: :yes:

That's pure luck dude. I never thought I would get such a dream video card for that price. Even at stock speeds, Rs.9,500 for that card is a wonderful deal. Maybe people price their video cards by looking at the size of the package they come in. It's less than half the size of a Geforce 6600, so half the price :lol:
 

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    Anusha said:
    That's pure luck dude. I never thought I would get such a dream video card for that price. Even at stock speeds, Rs.9,500 for that card is a wonderful deal. Maybe people price their video cards by looking at the size of the package they come in. It's less than half the size of a Geforce 6600, so half the price :lol:

    Ya Damn Lucky Man! Apita Kohenda Ochchara Honda Video Cards! :shocked: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     

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    Aiyo ehema kiyanna epa. Mamath mechchara davas hitiye onboard video valin.

    Before that I had a 9600Pro, which was a fine card compared to friends' but still people have Geforce 6 class cards which could easily outperform it.

    You know, EPSI had an amazing deal at infotel exhibition. A Core 2 Duo system for Rs.149,000. I agree that's a lot more than a typical Sri Lankan buyer would spend. Why I said that's a very good deal is because they are giving away a 20.1" LCD + Geforce 7950GX2 1GB card in that system. Those two components alone are Rs.120,000!!! You can't have the rest for Rs.29,000 when the Core 2 Duo E6400 alone costs more. That's why it's an amazing deal. People who were looking to spend around Rs.150,000 around that time and who attended Infotel would have been the happiest people in Sri Lanka those days.