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    Jesus is human.he is the son of god. thatz wut d bible say! :)

    Does the belief in Jesus (peace be upon him) as a ‘son of God’ really make sense?

    What exactly does 'son of God' mean?

    Can true salvation from God, be the punishment of someone else who is innocent from any of these crimes, to be punished as though he were guilty?

    Does God need someone to suffer severe punishment, even though they are trying, day after day.

    Did Jesus (peace be upon him) tell the people to take him as a god, or to worship him?

    Let us find the answer to these and other important questions about the nature of Jesus of Christianity and Islam.

    "Look to the Books"

    To begin, let us do a sample comparison of the teachings of the Holy Books of Almighty God.

    QURAN OF ISLAM

    The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus, peace be upon him, is a man, born of a woman without any father, strengthened by a Spirit from God (Gabriel), sent by God to teach the Children of Israel the true meaning of belief and proper actions (following the commandments) that God would accept from them and as such, their ‘road to salvation.’

    Did Jesus, peace be upon him, ask people to pray to him, or to pray with him, to the God who sent him?

    Did Jesus, peace be upon him, claim to be God?

    Can the term "son of God" in English really present the meaning intended by the writers of the Bible?

    Now let us compare with compassion and wisdom in our hearts. Which of the two concepts make the most sense between Islam and Christianity when it comes to the subject of Jesus, peace be upon him?

    Let us compare the two and see what our wisdom and common sense tell us:

    According to the teachings of Islam in the Quran and the words of the last prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him, Jesus, the son of Mary, was predicted, he came to earth as a baby with a mother but no father, he did amazing miracles by the permission of Allah, including even bringing a dead man back to life; he did demonstrate for his followers the very best of behavior and obedience to the commandments of God. And according to the Bible he personally prayed and ask God Almighty to save him from the fate of going to the cross.

    The Bible indicates Jesus prayers at Gethsemane went unanswered, even though he stayed up through the night crying and asking God, "Let this cup pass from me, even so, Your will be done."

    Yet, according to Quran, Almighty God did answer his prayers. He did not go to the cross, but rather the likeness of him was put on another person who did go to the cross and Almighty God, caused Jesus, peace be upon him, to be saved, protected and he is with God and will return in the Last Days to lead the true believers to victory over the evil ones.

    Some have even speculated the one on the cross was the very one (Judas Thomas Iscariot) who sold out Jesus and his followers for thirty pieces of sliver.

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    Jesus is human.he is the son of god. thatz wut d bible say! :)

    I am giving some authentic book which will prove their subject matter with reference.My aim is not to hurt any person but showing the reality and facts.

    Is Today's Bible God’s Word
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    God entrusted many Prophets and/or Messengers since creation began on earth. Starting with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and ending with Muhammad, peace be upon them all, the essence of religion was and still is: people must submit to their Creator and worship Him only as He revealed to their respective Messengers and/or Prophets.
    If words have any meaning, do we need to add another word of comment to prove our case? No! But the professional propagandists, after letting the cat out of the bag, still have the face to try to make their readers believe that they have proved beyond the shadow of any doubt that the Bible is the “irrefragable Word of God.” Their semantic gymnastics – equivocating, and playing with words – is amazing. In this book Ahmad deedat takes a critical look at bible text and highlights the many contradictions, additions and deleted verses therein.

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    Christianity: The Original And The Present Reality


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    Christianity The Original And The Present Reality: The author has given a brief history of original Christianity with reference to context, as well as, the present reality of Christianity in the modern world.


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    Sasith90

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    thanx

    I am giving some authentic book which will prove their subject matter with reference.My aim is not to hurt any person but showing the reality and facts.

    Is Today's Bible God’s Word
    Is%20the%20Bible%20Gods%20word.png

    God entrusted many Prophets and/or Messengers since creation began on earth. Starting with Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and ending with Muhammad, peace be upon them all, the essence of religion was and still is: people must submit to their Creator and worship Him only as He revealed to their respective Messengers and/or Prophets.
    If words have any meaning, do we need to add another word of comment to prove our case? No! But the professional propagandists, after letting the cat out of the bag, still have the face to try to make their readers believe that they have proved beyond the shadow of any doubt that the Bible is the “irrefragable Word of God.” Their semantic gymnastics – equivocating, and playing with words – is amazing. In this book Ahmad deedat takes a critical look at bible text and highlights the many contradictions, additions and deleted verses therein.

    Download
    icon_pdf.jpg


    Christianity: The Original And The Present Reality


    Christianity%20The%20Original%20and%20the%20Present%20Reality.jpg

    Christianity The Original And The Present Reality: The author has given a brief history of original Christianity with reference to context, as well as, the present reality of Christianity in the modern world.


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    thank you very much brother
     

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    What we want to do when we get problems in our Life

    Every man in world get problems , that's a normal think, .....

    what we want to do when we get problems in our life ??

    What is the first thing we want to do ........

    First of all don't get excited , this is the first thing what you want to do, believe that there is an answer for your problem, this is the first think what you want to do,

    Then think how did this problem has begun...... think what is the main factor for it, when you doing these steps , believe there is an answer for your problem.


    After this , think who can help you for this problem, Only one is All Mighty GOD[ for Muslim friends ALLAH ] , HE can help you for your problems , He is the only one , He is the creator, He is the one who gave this problem to you, because he knows everything, everything.....

    Then the answer is also with him, pray to GOD he will answer you, Believe in that.
    GOD is not silent , GOD is waiting for you, Pray to him , definitely he will answer you,

    Remember first thing is , don't get excited when you get problems in your life, and believe that there is an answer for your problem,

    I'm telling this with my Experience ..........
    Today evening also i got an experience on this .

    Try this........
    Definitely you will find the answer.

    GOD BLESS YOU ALL






    If anyone get an experience with through this. please reply that will be a help to other people to go near to the ALL MIGHTY GOD


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    sirajstc

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    Every man in world get problems , that's a normal think, .....

    what we want to do when we get problems in our life ??

    What is the first thing we want to do ........

    First of all don't get excited , this is the first thing what you want to do, believe that there is an answer for your problem, this is the first think what you want to do,

    Then think how did this problem has begun...... think what is the main factor for it, when you doing these steps , believe there is an answer for your problem.


    After this , think who can help you for this problem, Only one is All Mighty GOD[ for Muslim friends ALLAH ] , HE can help you for your problems , He is the only one , He is the creator, He is the one who gave this problem to you, because he knows everything, everything.....

    Then the answer is also with him, pray to GOD he will answer you, Believe in that.
    GOD is not silent , GOD is waiting for you, Pray to him , definitely he will answer you,

    Remember first thing is , don't get excited when you get problems in your life, and believe that there is an answer for your problem,

    I'm telling this with my Experience ..........
    Today evening also i got an experience on this .

    Try this........
    Definitely you will find the answer.

    GOD BLESS YOU ALL






    If anyone get an experience with through this. please reply that will be a help to other people to go near to the ALL MIGHTY GOD


    :shocked::shocked:

    Well Said brother:) Peace
     

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    Every man in world get problems , that's a normal think, .....
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    Remember first thing is , don't get excited when you get problems in your life, and believe that there is an answer for your problem,

    I'm telling this with my Experience ..........
    Today evening also i got an experience on this .

    Try this........
    Definitely you will find the answer.

    GOD BLESS YOU ALL
    If anyone get an experience with through this. please reply that will be a help to other people to go near to the ALL MIGHTY GOD


    :shocked::shocked:

    Brother i am excited after seeing your word and wisdom...
    thanx for sharing with us....
    you say true our perfect belief is only required to become nearer to Allah...He has not required any intermediary ...he can see, listen us everywhere and all the time.God says In Quran:

    "And when My slaves ask you concerning Me, I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when they calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright." (2,186)

    Please keep sharing these with us...
     
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    Sasith90

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    thanx

    Brother i am excited after seeing your word and wisdom...
    thanx for sharing with us....
    you say true our perfect belief is only required to become nearer to Allah...He has not required any intermediary ...he can see, listen us everywhere and all the time.God says In Quran:

    "And when My slaves ask you concerning Me, I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when they calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright." (2,186)

    Please keep sharing these with us...



    Ok , keep praying to GOD , He will solve our all problems,

    and remember
    JESUS is NOT the GOD he is a Human Being, :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
     

    sirajstc

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    Brother i am excited after seeing your word and wisdom...
    thanx for sharing with us....
    you say true our perfect belief is only required to become nearer to Allah...He has not required any intermediary ...he can see, listen us everywhere and all the time.God says In Quran:

    "And when My slaves ask you concerning Me, I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when they calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright." (2,186)

    Please keep sharing these with us...


    :)
     

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    Ok , keep praying to GOD , He will solve our all problems,

    and remember
    JESUS is NOT the GOD he is a Human Being, :shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

    Quranic view of God, Juses , Cristians, Jews, Success :



    And behold! God will say (at hereafter): "O Jesus the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, 'worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?'"
    He will say: "Glory to you. Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For you know in full what is hidden.
    (The Holy Qur'an 5:116)



    About the Reality of Jesus and his Mother Nature :

    "Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allâh is the Messiah (Jesus)] son of Mary." But the Messiah (Jesus) said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode.

    and Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allâh is the third of the three .But there is no God but One Ilâh (God -Allâh). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them.
    Will they not repent to Allâh and ask His Forgiveness? For Allâh is Of Forgiving, Most Merciful. The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother Mary was a saintly woman.. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allâh does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth)." [The Noble Qur’ân, Chapter Al-Mâ’idah (no.5), Verse 72-75]

    "And they say: "The Most Beneficent (Allâh) has begotten a son, the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son (Christ), and the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)." Indeed you (they) have brought said a terrible evil thing. Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins, That they ascribe a son to the Most Beneficent (Allâh). But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent (Allâh) that He should beget a son . There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allâh) as a slave.

    what Quran says about the behaviour of Cristian and Jews :


    "Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikûn [polytheists, pagans etc.], and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud. And when they (who call themselves Christians) listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammad), you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognised. They say: "Our Lord! We believe; so write us down among the witnesses. ( ) "

    what happen with those who made partner with Allah in Worship :

    "Verily, AllÂh not forgives that, partners should be set up with Him in worship (if they dont repent in this life), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He pleases, and whoever sets up partners with AllÂh in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin."

    What is the Nature and characteristic of Juses :


    Will they not repent to Allâh and ask His Forgiveness? For Allâh is Of Forgiving, Most Merciful.
    The Messiah (Jesus), son of Mary, was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother Mary was a saintly woman.. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allâh does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth)." [The Noble Qur’ân, Chapter Al-Mâ’idah (no.5), Verse 72-75]

    What was this message ?

    "And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): "Worship Allâh (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Tâghût (all false deities, etc. i.e. do not worship Tâghût besides Allâh)." Then of them were some whom Allâh guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth)." [The Noble Qur’ân, Chapter An-Nahl (no.16), Verse 36]
     
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    Yes Brother

    Yes brother, Jesus id NOT the GOD , You are saying it in Muslim view, Some times it can't understand to our catholic brothers, But I'm very happy to see your reply, and I'm appreciate you for being with this thread, thanking you for sharing your knowledge with us,

    In Quran directly says that Jesus is not the GOD, Holy BIBLE also says that Jesus is NOT the GOD, but its not saying directly like Quran Due to its translation,

    And catholic priests are also not saying that JESUS is NOT the GOD, because if they say like that it will be a great problem for their fond raising programs, Because they all depend on this,
    But the Truth is JESUS IS NOT THE GOD he is a human being, some day whole world will understand this truth.


    We want to worship to All Mighty GOD not to the Jesus, He is a good Example to us , In Holy bible , Jesus also prayed to the GOD, so if is the GOD how can He pray ??????
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    Yes You are correct Brother , I,m happy see your reply , but today most of the Christians say that the Jesus is GOD, But thats not the truth, He is a human like us.

    God Bless you.

    :shocked::shocked:


    datz coz sm ppl (nt nly christian) dnt try 2 understand wut is said... dey jst bleve wut dey hear..... or else they belev in t toooo much... bt v all humans v mk mistakz...
     

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    Does the belief in Jesus (peace be upon him) as a ‘son of God’ really make sense?

    What exactly does 'son of God' mean?

    Can true salvation from God, be the punishment of someone else who is innocent from any of these crimes, to be punished as though he were guilty?

    Does God need someone to suffer severe punishment, even though they are trying, day after day.

    Did Jesus (peace be upon him) tell the people to take him as a god, or to worship him?

    Let us find the answer to these and other important questions about the nature of Jesus of Christianity and Islam.

    "Look to the Books"

    To begin, let us do a sample comparison of the teachings of the Holy Books of Almighty God.

    QURAN OF ISLAM

    The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus, peace be upon him, is a man, born of a woman without any father, strengthened by a Spirit from God (Gabriel), sent by God to teach the Children of Israel the true meaning of belief and proper actions (following the commandments) that God would accept from them and as such, their ‘road to salvation.’

    Did Jesus, peace be upon him, ask people to pray to him, or to pray with him, to the God who sent him?

    Did Jesus, peace be upon him, claim to be God?

    Can the term "son of God" in English really present the meaning intended by the writers of the Bible?

    Now let us compare with compassion and wisdom in our hearts. Which of the two concepts make the most sense between Islam and Christianity when it comes to the subject of Jesus, peace be upon him?

    Let us compare the two and see what our wisdom and common sense tell us:

    According to the teachings of Islam in the Quran and the words of the last prophet, Muhammad, peace be upon him, Jesus, the son of Mary, was predicted, he came to earth as a baby with a mother but no father, he did amazing miracles by the permission of Allah, including even bringing a dead man back to life; he did demonstrate for his followers the very best of behavior and obedience to the commandments of God. And according to the Bible he personally prayed and ask God Almighty to save him from the fate of going to the cross.

    The Bible indicates Jesus prayers at Gethsemane went unanswered, even though he stayed up through the night crying and asking God, "Let this cup pass from me, even so, Your will be done."

    Yet, according to Quran, Almighty God did answer his prayers. He did not go to the cross, but rather the likeness of him was put on another person who did go to the cross and Almighty God, caused Jesus, peace be upon him, to be saved, protected and he is with God and will return in the Last Days to lead the true believers to victory over the evil ones.

    Some have even speculated the one on the cross was the very one (Judas Thomas Iscariot) who sold out Jesus and his followers for thirty pieces of sliver.

    MOre info

    http://www.bibleislam.com/son_of_who.php

    wut i knw nd blv z dat jesus was placed in mother mary's womb by god... datz wut makz him d son of god....
     

    sirajstc

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    Tyq tu jdlHh lshjqfha h' —fhaiqia jykafia t,S' t,S' ,dud inla;dks˜' —udf.a foúhksæ udf.a foúhksæ Tn ud w;ayeßfha ulaksid o hkqhs˜' fuu jdlHka ish,a, lshjq lf;da,sl ñ;%hd uola úu;shg m;ajQjd fia ud foi ne¨fõh' ifydaor Tn nhsn,h iïmQ¾Kfhka lshjd f;areïf.k we;s nj ug fmakjd Tyq lSfõh'

    Álla lshjd ;sfnkjd' fuf;la wm fofokd ne¨fõ nhsn,fha uf;õ mßÉfPaofha jdlHj,ska iuyrls' fumuKla fkdfjhs nhsn,fha wdrïN mßÉfPaoh jQ —W;am;a;s˜ mgka wjika mßÉfPaoh jQ t<sorõ olajdjQ jdlH ;=<ska fhaiqia jykafia mejiqfõ tlu foúhkag wjk; úh hq;= n jug Tmamq l< yelsh tfyuo@ Tõ ñ;%hd oeka lshkak' fldhs foúhkag o jkaokd udk bgq l< hq;= nj fhaiqia jykafia Wmfoia lf<a'

    ;udg ÿl fõokd we;s jq wjia:dfõ oS fldhs foúhka wu;d l:d lf<a o" ta tlu foúhkag iïmQ¾K úYajhu ujd md,kh lrk ta tlu foúhkag fkao Tn wjk; úh hq;af;a@ je÷ï ms÷ï bgq l< hq;af;a@ túg fkao fhaiqia jykafia wkq.ukh l< flfkl= yeáhg Tng cSj;a ùug mq¿jka jkafka@ uu lSfjñ'

    we;a; ;uhs ñ;%æ óg fmr lSm j;djla u uf;õ mßÉfPaofha Tn i|yka l< jdlH lshjd we;af;ñ' kuq;a fu;rï .eUqßka uu th .ek l,amkd fkdlf<ñ' fyf;u lSfõh'

    l,amkd lrkak ñ;=ræ Tng foúhkaf.a wdrCIdj ,eìh hq;= kï fhaiqia jykafia fmkajd ÿka kshu I;H oyu ms<smeosh hq;=hs' Wkajykafia foaYkd fkdl<" úfYaIfhka lshjkjd kï Wkajykafia —tmd˜ lshd je<ela jQ foa Tn lrf.k isákafka kï Tng foúhkaf.a wdrCIdj yd wdYs¾jdoh ,efnkafka flfiao@ uu weiqfjñ'

    lf;da,sl ñ;%hd ;s.eiais isáfhah' ñ;%æ Tn iu. fndfyda foa .ek l:d l< hq;=hs' fldfyos yuqúh yelso@ Tyq m%Yak lf<ah'

    uf.a ,smskh i|yka úisksáka ldâ tlla Tyqg ÿksñ' Tng úfõl we;s ´kEu fj,djla uf.a ld¾hd,hg tkak' wms woyia yqjudre lr.ksuqæ fufia lSfuka isák úgu ud hdhq;= ÿïßh tys meñKsfhah'
    Tyqg Y=Nm;d uu tys ke. Wiqka .;sñ'

    isrdcq,a yika'
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    hafizsaad

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    Yes brother,

    In Quran directly says that Jesus is not the GOD, Holy BIBLE also says that Jesus is NOT the GOD, but its not saying directly like Quran Due to its translation,

    Yes brother, it show your deep search in religion and its source....you are not idealistic but realistic..
    Quran mention the reality clearly and directly as you know it has its original words they are not manipulated and fabricated...We believe on bible but our current version of bible (sorry to say and not to hurt any body) so much manipulated and fabricated and there 73 different catholic version and all are contradicting each other because it has not its original words in which it revealed to juses...any how we can not say it is wholly changed, there are God words in holy bible also.
    Our Quran Confirm that the original bible was also
    mentioning clearly and directly that there is only one God see :

    "and (they also took as their Lord) the juses, son of Mary, while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded in the bible and in the Injeel (Gospel) to worship none but One Ilâh (God - Allâh) Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He).
    Praise and glory is to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)."
    (10,30-33)


    And catholic priests are also not saying that JESUS is NOT the GOD, because if they say like that it will be a great problem for their fond raising programs, Because they all depend on this,
    But the Truth is JESUS IS NOT THE GOD he is a human being, some day whole world will understand this truth
    .

    Brother i am happy to see you are so clear and straight forward in your comments...our quran says about those who change the book for personal benefits:

    They have sold The signs of Allah for a miserable price, and (many) have they hindered (prevent) from His (God) way: evil indeed are the deeds they have done. (10,9)

    our quran says about those who blindly follow their religion teacher as :
    They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis, priest and their monks to be their lords besides Allâh (by obeying them in things which they(priest) made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allâh), (10,30)
    We want to worship to All Mighty GOD not to the Jesus, He is a good Example to us , In Holy bible , Jesus also prayed to the GOD, so if is the GOD how can He pray ??????:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
    "Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allâh is the Messiah (Jesus)] son of Mary." But the Messiah (Jesus) said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode.
     
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    Y2K

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    In your heart
    If anyone say that the JESUS is GOD why is that??

    Give reasons ...


    I,m saying that JESUS is a Human being i'm ready to give reasons .......

    :shocked::shocked:

    Did Jesus Ever Say
    He was God?

    Is Jesus God? Investigate these interesting claims...


    The earliest followers of Jesus all seemed pretty convinced that Jesus was fully God in human form. Paul said, "He is the image of the invisible God...in him all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell." John said that Jesus created the world. Peter said, "every one who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

    But what did Jesus say about himself? Did he ever identify himself as God? According to the Bible...absolutely! Below are some of his statements made while on earth, in their context.


    Is Jesus God? How he implied he was God:
    The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple. (John 8:57-59)

    "I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (John 10:30-33)

    And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me does not believe in Me, but in Him who sent Me. And he who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me. I have come as light into the world, that everyone who believes in Me may not remain in darkness." (John 12:44-46)

    And so when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments, and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for I am. If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet." (John 13:12-14)

    Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?" (John 14:6-9)


    Is Jesus God? How he described himself:
    Jesus therefore said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world." They said therefore to Him, "Lord, evermore give us this bread." Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." (John 6:32-35)

    Again therefore Jesus spoke to them, saying, "I am the light of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life." The Pharisees therefore said to Him, "You are bearing witness of Yourself; Your witness is not true." Jesus answered and said to them, "Even if I bear witness of Myself, My witness is true; for I know where I came from, and where I am going; but you do not know where I come from, or where I am going." (John 8:12-14)

    Jesus therefore said to them again, "Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal, and kill, and destroy; I came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly. I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep." (John 10:7-11)

    Martha therefore said to Jesus, "Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died. Even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give You." Jesus said to her, "Your brother shall rise again." Martha said to Him, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day." Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" She said to Him, "Yes, Lord; I have believed that You are the Christ, the Son of God, even He who comes into the world." (John 11:21-27)


    Is Jesus God? What he said he was sent here to do:
    But Jesus called them to Himself, and said, "You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. It is not so among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many." (Matthew 20:25-28)

    For He was teaching His disciples and telling them, "The Son of Man is to be delivered into the hands of men, and they will kill Him; and when He has been killed, He will rise three days later." But they did not understand this statement, and they were afraid to ask Him. (Mark 9:31-32)

    "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:16-18)

    "All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." (John 6:37-40)