Guys, here is a challenge for you...regarding hard disks

Anusha

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OK. This is the problem. You guys have to come up with a very good hard drive setup + data management solution, just like how they have the CPU caching system. Not very expensive, but yet again, very good performance very close to having the best performance from a PC hard disk setup.

Say for example, you go with 2 500GB RAID-0 setup (i.e. the drive setup), partition it to three; one for system, one for programs and one for all your data (i.e. data management solution).

I guess you guys got the point. Show us what you think. :)
 

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    Drive Setup-
    1x500GB
    2x320GB Hard drives (RAID-0)

    Data management solution-
    4 Partitions-
    System and Program files
    Movies and Songs
    Games
    storge for Downloaded files (Internet)

    Just wanted to give my idea........ ;)
    maxxa thread eka! :yes:
     

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    buddhika19 said:
    no idea machan
    Im sure anusha needs no Ideas here!! DoNT SPAM


    Anyway This is what i think would be the best setup

    One High speed Drive for the OS and the Applications (Ex WD Raptor)
    One 250GB drive for Audio files (MP3, WMA etc)
    Two 500GB drives on Raid 0 for large Multimedia files (Movies Music VIdeos)

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    I think this is a good one because...the OS and most of the Software Applications contains a lot of very small files and the low access times of a say WD raptor will make them run faster

    Audio files are small but not by a large margin a 250GB will do just fine for them

    Youll need a lot of bandwidth for HD movies and Music videos (or SD ones) so two 500Gbs on raid 0 will do the trick if u have more money go Raid 5 so u can save ur valuable collection of movies if the HDDS get screwd lol
     
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    Anusha

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    Intel_Nehalem said:
    Drive Setup-
    1x500GB
    2x320GB Hard drives (RAID-0)

    Data management solution-
    4 Partitions-
    System and Program files
    Movies and Songs
    Games
    storge for Downloaded files (Internet)

    Just wanted to give my idea........ ;)
    maxxa thread eka! :yes:
    But you didn't say which data should be stored in which hard disk. And also tell us why you think that setup is a good one.

    Note: You don't have to use only the drives found in SL. You can get Raptors involved as well :D
     

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    Im sure anusha needs no Ideas here!! DoNT SPAM


    Anyway This is what i think would be the best setup

    One High speed Drive for the OS and the Applications (Ex WD Raptor)
    One 250GB drive for Audio files (MP3, WMA etc)
    Two 500GB drives on Raid 0 for large Multimedia files (Movies Music VIdeos)
    Don't you think the user profiles should be separated from the system drive for
    1. If you use an imaging software, then when you restore, the use profiles with the data will still be most current, and the images will be smaller too
    2. When launching certain apps which need reading a lot of file in the user profile, for example, Firefox, it would be beneficial to separate the app and the corresponding data files.
     

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    Anusha said:
    Don't you think the user profiles should be separated from the system drive for
    1. If you use an imaging software, then when you restore, the use profiles with the data will still be most current, and the images will be smaller too
    2. When launching certain apps which need reading a lot of file in the user profile, for example, Firefox, it would be beneficial to separate the app and the corresponding data files.

    thats a nice idea damn didnt came to my mind..definitely if u put the user settings on another drive things will be even faster, but then u have a hassle when making system backups cuz u have to make two separate backups for the OS and the software also..needa?
     

    Anusha

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    My current setup is like this:

    Hard drives:

    1. 250GBx2 in RAID-0
    2. 500GB

    The data is arranged in this manner. I follow the Vista's user profiles arrangement to the point :D

    1. RAID volume (500GB)

    1.1 C: drive (50GB)
    Windows and Program Files

    1.2 D: drive (200GB)
    Games

    1.3 E: drive (250GB)
    User Profiles (everything except Public)

    2. Data drive (500GB single drive)

    2.1 F: 500GB
    Public profile, Backup images of C:

    All my music files are in F:\Users\Public\Music
    All my video files are in F:\Users\Public\Videos
    All my picture files are in F:\Users\Public\Pictures
    All my files that are currently being downloaded are in F:\Users\Public\Download
    Almost all my documents are in F:\Users\Public\Documents

    Show me areas where I should improve on.

    P.S.
    The only issue I see is where the individual user profiles saved in the RAID volume, which makes the hard disks have to do more seeks to load data from the user profiles. But anyway it is the case with the default installation of any OS, right? But the problem is, I can't take out the user profiles from E: as there is a lot of free space there which will not be used then. Sucks to have 250GB drives as the minimum + best for the system drive. A 74GB raptor would have done the trick, but... :D
     
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    fallenzeraphine said:
    thats a nice idea damn didnt came to my mind..definitely if u put the user settings on another drive things will be even faster, but then u have a hassle when making system backups cuz u have to make two separate backups for the OS and the software also..needa?
    Well, look at it this way. Why do Windows screw up? Almost all the times it is not because of Program Files folder or User Profiles folder. It is because of some system setting na? So you only have to maintain backups of system partition. Remember also that, when you restore an old image, you have to reinstall the apps you installed after the image, regardless of whether you have them installed in a separate drive/partition, as you will be missing the registry entries and system files. You don't have to "image" program files and user profiles imo.
     
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    I dont have a much Bigger HDD , But I'll put my Idea :)

    MAXTOR STM3160215AS ATA Device
    IDE\DiskMAXTOR_STM3160215AS
    160GB

    I Have 5 Partitions

    Drive C: --> 19.5 GB
    *Use Only For Windows

    Drive D: --> 39.0 GB
    *Install all the Softwares in this Drive

    Drive E:--> 25.6GB
    *Keep Software Downloads,Software DVD Images,and Personal Files

    Drive F: --> 25.6 GB
    *Keep My Personal Files ;)

    Drive G: --> 25.6 GB
    *Only for Active Torrents and Films :)

    This is the Basic Plan But,Some Times this Messy up ;),Not Stricted to this :)
     

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    Sudantha_s said:
    I dont have a much Bigger HDD , But I'll put my Idea :)

    MAXTOR STM3160215AS ATA Device
    IDE\DiskMAXTOR_STM3160215AS
    160GB

    I Have 5 Partitions

    Drive C: --> 19.5 GB
    *Use Only For Windows

    Drive D: --> 39.0 GB
    *Install all the Softwares in this Drive

    Drive E:--> 25.6GB
    *Keep Software Downloads,Software DVD Images,and Personal Files

    Drive F: --> 25.6 GB
    *Keep My Personal Files ;)

    Drive G: --> 25.6 GB
    *Only for Active Torrents and Films :)

    This is the Basic Plan But,Some Times this Messy up ;),Not Stricted to this :)
    The problem with this setup is that more partitions make your hard disks head move a lot, slowing down performance. Ideally you need many hard disks. not necessarily big ones. two 250GB drives way more possibilities than a single 500GB drive, even though the latter is a tad cheaper.

    Do no install programs in a separate partition than system partition, IF you are using the same drive. It slows down app loading. Because the hard disk have to access C: as well as D: which are always separated by a long distance, and if they were in the same partition, they might end up closer and having less seeks to do. Seeks kill performance!!!
     

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    Anusha said:
    All my music files are in F:\Users\Public\Music
    All my video files are in F:\Users\Public\Videos
    All my picture files are in F:\Users\Public\Pictures
    All my files that are currently being downloaded are in F:\Users\Public\Download
    Almost all my documents are in F:\Users\Public\Documents

    So ur OS and Files in Same Partition :)

    If u face a Fetal Windows Error,You may face data lost :yes: ,If Files in a Another Partition you can just Format this Drive and Install Windows back

    You may face much Difficulty To backup ur Stuff wehn windows in down ;)
     

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    roshant said:
    30gb windows
    250gb movies
    100gb games
    100gb vala
    20gb songs
    Come on! Be a little bit more elaborate, or don't post at all. I don't want to see useless posts!!!
     

    Anusha

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    Sudantha_s said:
    So ur OS and Files in Same Partition :)

    If u face a Fetal Windows Error,You may face data lost :yes: ,If Files in a Another Partition you can just Format this Drive and Install Windows back

    You may face much Difficulty To backup ur Stuff wehn windows in down ;)
    No no! My OS is in C: as in C:\Windows
    F:\ is my data drive where I only have "data". No games, no programs. I have moved C:\Users\Public to F:\Users\Public using a reg hack, maintaining the exact interoperability.

    Ah btw, I don't have to reinstall Windows. I have backups of perfectly working levels. One being a bare Windows installation, one being all the "main" software installed, which usually don't get updated versions often. One being the most recent one with all the updated software + no errors.
     
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    Anusha said:
    Do no install programs in a separate partition than system partition, IF you are using the same drive. It slows down app loading. Because the hard disk have to access C: as well as D: which are always separated by a long distance, and if they were in the same partition, they might end up closer and having less seeks to do. Seeks kill performance!!!

    Thanks For the Advice :D,