How much nVidia Suckx these days

fallenzeraphine

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    It seems nvidias new GTX200 drivers modify some files of 3Dmark vantage so the Driver can offload the Physics instructions to the GPU...i mean that sucks, its so low

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    Bigspin

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    It seems nvidias new GTX200 drivers modify some files of 3Dmark vantage so the Driver can offload the Physics instructions to the GPU...i mean that sucks, its so low

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    I read the news @ Vr-Zone.com & another story is nVIDIA hire the hacked ATI physics driver developer & they pay for hacking . Bad move by nvidia . I'm expecting another court case about both incidents
     

    Anusha

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    It seems nvidias new GTX200 drivers modify some files of 3Dmark vantage so the Driver can offload the Physics instructions to the GPU...i mean that sucks, its so low

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    I also first thought it was cheating. But with careful consideration, I think they are not. If they can use a FEATURE in the VGA to improve performance, then it is not cheating! What I call cheating is reducing image quality to gain more performance, or that sort of thing.
     
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    fallenzeraphine

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    Anusha said:
    I also first thought it was cheating. But with careful consideration, I think they are not. If they can use a FEATURE in the VGA to improve performance, then it is not cheating! What is cheating is reducing image quality to gain more performance, or that sort of thing.

    DUUUUUUUUUUH its cheating to modify the bloody files without asking the end user first....and the installer dont fix the files when u uninstall the drivers. so its cheating
     

    Anusha

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    DUUUUUUUUUUH its cheating to modify the bloody files without asking the end user first....and the installer dont fix the files when u uninstall the drivers. so its cheating
    I don't think the end users will call it cheating...at least the ones with the green team :D
     

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    Anusha said:
    Ok, at least the ones who have a G92 :D
    hehee
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    Anusha said:
    I also first thought it was cheating. But with careful consideration, I think they are not. If they can use a FEATURE in the VGA to improve performance, then it is not cheating! What I call cheating is reducing image quality to gain more performance, or that sort of thing.

    Are they using that FEATURE in other games as well (modifying the game files and download physics to VGA). Or it does only on 3DMark, if it only do such thing in 3DMark that's for sure cheating for get higher marks.
     

    Anusha

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    henderson said:
    Are they using that FEATURE in other games as well (modifying the game files and download physics to VGA). Or it does only on 3DMark, if it only do such thing in 3DMark that's for sure cheating for get higher marks.
    They are not cheating. The games that support physics processing, show great performance increases. UT3 is one such game. There is already a patch available for UT3 to enable Physics in nVidia cards.
     

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    Anusha said:
    They are not cheating. The games that support physics processing, show great performance increases. UT3 is one such game. There is already a patch available for UT3 to enable Physics in nVidia cards.

    It's not pure cheating, but it's sort of cheating. Because you have very handful number of games that support physics processing. And If you put that feature in benchmarking purposes, those benchmark results are valid for games that support physics processing only. For other games this figure is useless.
     

    Anusha

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    henderson said:
    It's not pure cheating, but it's sort of cheating. Because you have very handful number of games that support physics processing. And If you put that feature in benchmarking purposes, those benchmark results are valid for games that support physics processing only. For other games this figure is useless.
    Maybe it is useless, maybe it is not.

    Remember, 3DMark Vantage is NEW and it should be representing the games that are to be released in the future.

    Physics support is there already in 3DMark, if you have an addon Phiysics card. But you have to modify it to use the physics in the nVidia cards to work. That is not cheating IMO.