If God created ALL, what created God?

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:why do you say not to watch the last part hmmm???:rofl:the same guy who gives the answer to the problem claims that jesus is the God and quran is not the book of God....:baffled::baffled::baffled::baffled::baffled::baffled:so you tell us not to watch the end part...:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:......if what he said is true,,then can't what he said at this end also be true???......your answer contradicted your own religion hafizard.....what will happen to the only true religion now......?????:rofl:

You are just diverting to other topic and denieding reality.# I early in the post said that i have posted the video of cristian person and asked about first part as here our discussion is about God Existence, that first part of the video discuss. what about second part, he is discussing about his religion and giving reference from his own book. that is another topic if you want we will discuss that part (about true religion) in another thread.More you have just told lie in the comments, see the vedio agian, that boy has not told Quran is not the book of Good, reality is he has told that only bible predict the future. . I think my first and video post clear the concept. The problem with you is, every time you just to insist on your own concept and ideology irrationally, for this problem there has been no solution discovered yet:baffled::rofl:.
 
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Who created Allah (God)?

One of the attributes of Allah is that He is Eternal. By definition Eternal is forever with no beginning; therefore the question is absurd. Only temporal/non-eternal beings are created. By logic, everyone agrees with the fact that there was something Eternal which gave life to this universe and its inhabitants. We believe that this Eternal is Everlasting and intelligent Being and we call Him Allah.

you have to substantiate your definition and the mentioned eternalness.
 

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    Thread Starter.........Read This...........!!

    This is a frequently asked question, and it may be addressed in two basic ways. The most direct answer is the one supplied by the Scriptures themselves. And that will settle the issue for those who have confidence in the credibility of the sacred Book. Secondly, however, one may pursue the inquiry by means of the process of logical reasoning.
    The Biblical View

    The view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere. No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being. The testimony of the Scriptures is this:


    (1) God is “everlasting” in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is “eternal” as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.” Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).


    (2) The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14). The “I AM” expression is related to the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (LORD — KJV, or Jehovah — see ASV footnote). This was the most sacred name for God. The term Yahweh occurs more than 6,800 times in the Old Testament. The word is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.” God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.
    Logically Speaking

    The eternality of the Creator may be argued in another way as well. Consider the following logical line of argument.


    (1) If there ever was a time when nothing at all existed, then there would be absolutely nothing today. It is an axiomatic truth that if nothing exists, then “nothing” will be the case -always, for nothing simply remains nothing - forever! Nothing plus nothing equals nothing. If there is absolutely nothing but nothing, there cannot ever be something. “Nothing” and “something” -applied to the same object, at the same time - are mutually exclusive terms.


    (2) Since it is the case that something does now exist, one must logically conclude that something has existed always. Let us state the matter again: If nothing cannot produce something, and yet something exists, then it follows necessarily that something has existed always. The question then becomes this. What is the “something” that has been in existence always?


    (3) In logic, the “law of the excluded middle” states that a thing either is, or it is not. A line either is straight, or it is not straight.


    Let us apply this principle to the matter at hand. Something has existed forever. That “something” must be either material in nature, or non-material. If it can be demonstrated that the eternal “something” is not material in nature, then it must follow that the eternal “something” is non-material in nature.
    Another term for the “non-material” would be “spirit.” The question now becomes — what does the available evidence reveal? Is it the case that “matter” has existed forever, or does the evidence argue that the eternal “something” is non-matter, i.e., spirit?


    (4) The most reputable scientists in the world concede that “matter” is not eternal. In his book, Until the Sun Dies (New York: W.W. Norton, 1977), Dr. Robert Jastrow, founder of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, and himself a professed agnostic, describes his perception of the initial creation of the universe. He speaks of that moment when “the first particles of matter appear” (21), thus, prior to that moment, matter did not exist.


    Subsequently, he declares emphatically that “modern science denies an eternal existence to the Universe?” (30). There is not a particle of evidence that the universe has existed forever. The very fact that scientists attempt to assign an “age” to the universe is revealing within itself.


    (5) In view of the foregoing, namely that something has always existed, and yet that “something” is not of a material nature, the student of logic is irresistibly forced to the conclusion that the “something” that is eternal is non-material — which means it must be “spirit” in its essence. The Scriptures identify that spirit Being as God. “God is spirit?” (Jn. 4:24) — an uncreated, eternal Spirit Being.


    Both Scripture and logic, then, in marvelous concert, testify to the fact that God is eternal. He had no origin. He is the everlasting I AM. No one “made” him. He simply IS.
     

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    You are just diverting to other topic and denieding reality.# I early in the post said that i have posted the video of cristian person and asked about first part as here our discussion is about God Existence, that first part of the video discuss. what about second part, he is discussing about his religion and giving reference from his own book. that is another topic if you want we will discuss that part (about true religion) in another thread.More you have just told lie in the comments, see the vedio agian, that boy has not told Quran is not the book of Good, reality is he has told that only bible predict the future. . I think my first and video post clear the concept. The problem with you is, every time you just to insist on your own concept and ideology irrationally, for this problem there has been no solution discovered yet:baffled::rofl:.

    :dull::dull::dull:can't you see in the video,it shows that "jesus is God" and then he says the bible is the book of God????then,,do you think,if jesus is God,will he send another prophet(mohammad) to preach islam???and he further says "a book of God should predict the future,and quran "doesn't" predict the future like the bible does"....so what do you understand from this???doesn't that mean that he's trying to say that the quran is not from God?????:dull::dull::dull::dull::dull::dull:....so can't you understand from your brain that he's saying "quran is not a book of God"....:dull::dull::dull::dull::dull:......this is your video,not mine......

    and man,i know you are a born muslim so your mind works only in 1 direction and you are not programmed to think,,but at least try to understand the inner meanings of things rather than taking what ever which is superficial and commenting.....
     
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    Rovin

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    You are welcome bro:D

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