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<blockquote data-quote="Salafist" data-source="post: 17453143" data-attributes="member: 518589"><p>What if there is demons and demons gave Buddha false knowledge?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>loool. If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then what's the point of you trying to achieve it!? If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then Buddhism is false!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Revelation came to him even when he was addressing a crowd. </p><p>Such as Surah an najm. (53rd chapter of the Quran). The prophet recited the revelation as he was receiving it, in front of a crowd of non-muslims and muslims.</p><p></p><p>Besides that, there is plenty of reasons to believe in Muhammed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah...that's why only butt fucking is haram/impermissible in Islam. Butt fucking is a sin. Because it's a choice. Being gay isn't a choice.</p><p>In Islam, you will only be punished for <strong>choosing</strong> to do bad. You will only be punished if there is a choice and you choose wrong.</p><p></p><p>Simply said:</p><p>Being gay. Not a choice. no sin.</p><p>Butt fucking/ sodomy. Choice. SIN.</p><p></p><p>I doubt that sodomy/butt fucking actually makes people gay. Maybe it does. </p><p></p><p>It's just that when you are sexually high..you need to have the right stimulus. If you are a male..then this stimulus should be a female. If you force yourself to be sexually high when the stimilus is a male..then you're likely to become gay. So butt-fucking <strong>males</strong> indeed could make people gay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ample examples?! <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/default/shocked.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":shocked:" title="Shocked :shocked:" data-shortname=":shocked:" /></p><p>Any straight male would rather masturbate (fuck themselves) than fucking another male..lool</p><p></p><p>Can you give me an example?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can't choose to be gay. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gay person can enter heaven. Allah never says he will punish gay people. </p><p>He only says he will punish people who will approach gay acts (like sodomy) or do them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay then. That's common sense. In Islam anything which hurts someone is a sin. Also anything which hurts ourselves (like alcohol/drugs/adultery) is also a sin.</p><p></p><p>And then there's a problem in judging what things hurt. Different people will have different opinions of things which hurt others. Someone might think it's okay to rape, for example.</p><p></p><p>So in order to overcome the problem which will be caused by society as a result of morals differing...Islam offers a set of objective morals. And these objective morals are determined by God who has created us and know us best.</p><p>Thus objective moralism is the best way forwards rather than having a general rule "everything which hurts others is a sin".</p><p></p><p>In additional to the set of rules governed by the objective moralism as determined by God..we also have extra rules (commandments) that God imposes on us in order to test our faiths. So that we could see whether we are worthy of a good or better reward or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country and in here, it is illegal to be gay. Explain!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The choices we make is not affected by God's will. </p><p></p><p>But we don't know the future. We are not in control of other things which could happen to us. We could die any second for example. See what happened to Philip Hughes...did he know he was going to die when he came out to bat?</p><p></p><p>So that's why we say "Insha Allah" which means "If God wills" literally..or "If God is willing" or "God willingly" etc because we aren't in control of the future and not that we aren't in control of our choices.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean..Islam doesn't give?</p><p>Islam gives free choice. You can obey God or you can disobey...no one forces anyone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is little choice there..I admit. Just like if you are indoctrinated into Buddhism by your parents and "sunday school".</p><p></p><p>But if you are a thinking guy..then you won't just follow blindly. You will critically reason with the belief-systems available and choose what makes more sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not kill you. But they will stop communicating with you, </p><p></p><p>But some muslims do get very angry..and will try to hurt you....but that's all wrong and sinning.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can't say it aloud because of Muslim societies. They won't tolerate apostates. On the other hand, Islam <strong>does</strong> tolerate apostates, though some would argue otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salafist, post: 17453143, member: 518589"] What if there is demons and demons gave Buddha false knowledge? loool. If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then what's the point of you trying to achieve it!? If Buddha didn't attain nirvana then Buddhism is false! No. Revelation came to him even when he was addressing a crowd. Such as Surah an najm. (53rd chapter of the Quran). The prophet recited the revelation as he was receiving it, in front of a crowd of non-muslims and muslims. Besides that, there is plenty of reasons to believe in Muhammed. Yeah...that's why only butt fucking is haram/impermissible in Islam. Butt fucking is a sin. Because it's a choice. Being gay isn't a choice. In Islam, you will only be punished for [B]choosing[/B] to do bad. You will only be punished if there is a choice and you choose wrong. Simply said: Being gay. Not a choice. no sin. Butt fucking/ sodomy. Choice. SIN. I doubt that sodomy/butt fucking actually makes people gay. Maybe it does. It's just that when you are sexually high..you need to have the right stimulus. If you are a male..then this stimulus should be a female. If you force yourself to be sexually high when the stimilus is a male..then you're likely to become gay. So butt-fucking [B]males[/B] indeed could make people gay. Ample examples?! :shocked: Any straight male would rather masturbate (fuck themselves) than fucking another male..lool Can you give me an example? You can't choose to be gay. Gay person can enter heaven. Allah never says he will punish gay people. He only says he will punish people who will approach gay acts (like sodomy) or do them. Okay then. That's common sense. In Islam anything which hurts someone is a sin. Also anything which hurts ourselves (like alcohol/drugs/adultery) is also a sin. And then there's a problem in judging what things hurt. Different people will have different opinions of things which hurt others. Someone might think it's okay to rape, for example. So in order to overcome the problem which will be caused by society as a result of morals differing...Islam offers a set of objective morals. And these objective morals are determined by God who has created us and know us best. Thus objective moralism is the best way forwards rather than having a general rule "everything which hurts others is a sin". In additional to the set of rules governed by the objective moralism as determined by God..we also have extra rules (commandments) that God imposes on us in order to test our faiths. So that we could see whether we are worthy of a good or better reward or not. Sri Lanka is a Buddhist country and in here, it is illegal to be gay. Explain! The choices we make is not affected by God's will. But we don't know the future. We are not in control of other things which could happen to us. We could die any second for example. See what happened to Philip Hughes...did he know he was going to die when he came out to bat? So that's why we say "Insha Allah" which means "If God wills" literally..or "If God is willing" or "God willingly" etc because we aren't in control of the future and not that we aren't in control of our choices. What do you mean..Islam doesn't give? Islam gives free choice. You can obey God or you can disobey...no one forces anyone. There is little choice there..I admit. Just like if you are indoctrinated into Buddhism by your parents and "sunday school". But if you are a thinking guy..then you won't just follow blindly. You will critically reason with the belief-systems available and choose what makes more sense. Not kill you. But they will stop communicating with you, But some muslims do get very angry..and will try to hurt you....but that's all wrong and sinning. You can't say it aloud because of Muslim societies. They won't tolerate apostates. On the other hand, Islam [B]does[/B] tolerate apostates, though some would argue otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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