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<blockquote data-quote="Salafist" data-source="post: 17535988" data-attributes="member: 518589"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Those taxes are called <em>jizya</em>. This jizya is imposed on the <em>ahlul-kitab</em> (the people of the book). The people of the book is defined to be the christians, jews and the Sabians. So only these people need to pay these taxes of jizya under an islamic state. Yes, this is mentioned in the Quran....and other islamic texts.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">This extra tax is for numerous benefits. The people of the book don't need to pay zakath which the muslims pay (obligatory charity tax - which is higher than the jizya). This jizya also covers their protections, their rights of worship and living etc. As long as these people pay the jizya they are freely allowed to build churches, temples, synagogues and whatever and worship freely. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Also the islamic state would also require it's citizens to do an obligatory military service. Countries such as China and Korea also have this - where every person must work around 2 years in the army. But paying jizya could have this duty wavered...and only non-muslims can have it wavered. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">So you see, this jizya isn't unfair in the slight-test. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">I reckon in an islamic state...muslims will be paying higher than the non-muslim because zakath (muslim charity tax) percentage is greater than the jizya (non-muslimtax).</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Yes...but the ISIS isn't a real islamic state. They don't have real islamic scholars and kill innocents. They do takfir unfairly....and their theology is deviant.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">yep</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Muslims believe that the life-after-death (after life / akhira) is permanent and eternal.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Yes...good people get land, gardens.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">And yes, men get virgins (houris).</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Peace? What do you mean by peace? You can interpret <em>peace</em> in many ways. I'm aware that Buddhist believe that the mere state of non-existence (nirvana) is pleasing and peaceful. Life is continuous pain..and when you get nirvana you break loose from the life-cycle (samsara) and get the peace.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Muslims don't believe this.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">I'll tell you what "peace" could be in the muslim paradise. Just imagine our Earth was a place without any wars. No one did evil. Everyone did good. All the leaders were good and no oppressors exist. Just imagine how an ideal peaceful-earth would be. It would be peaceful right? Imagine it...and try to make it as much peaceful as you can. What will you do? You will imagine gardens, rivers...trees...no pollution. You will imagine all sorts of things...happiness joy etc. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">That is the muslim paradise. And that is peace. But that said, however much you try to imagine a peaceful earth and home..it can't match the real paradise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Kill? It isn't legal or normal to kill anyone.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">But to kill (execute) as a punishment (of death) is allowable but you have to evaluate the crime done by the prostitute. A prostitute fornicates and encourages fornication/adultery. If done is private then I personally feel that no punishment should be given. However if they advertise and make it public etc then you get 4 witnesses and bring the case to a shariah court.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">A prostitute, I would say, normally get lashes or a time stay in jail under sharia. If the prostitute is married, then the punishment is death, though it would be rarely carried out.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salafist, post: 17535988, member: 518589"] [SIZE="5"] Those taxes are called [I]jizya[/I]. This jizya is imposed on the [I]ahlul-kitab[/I] (the people of the book). The people of the book is defined to be the christians, jews and the Sabians. So only these people need to pay these taxes of jizya under an islamic state. Yes, this is mentioned in the Quran....and other islamic texts. This extra tax is for numerous benefits. The people of the book don't need to pay zakath which the muslims pay (obligatory charity tax - which is higher than the jizya). This jizya also covers their protections, their rights of worship and living etc. As long as these people pay the jizya they are freely allowed to build churches, temples, synagogues and whatever and worship freely. Also the islamic state would also require it's citizens to do an obligatory military service. Countries such as China and Korea also have this - where every person must work around 2 years in the army. But paying jizya could have this duty wavered...and only non-muslims can have it wavered. So you see, this jizya isn't unfair in the slight-test. I reckon in an islamic state...muslims will be paying higher than the non-muslim because zakath (muslim charity tax) percentage is greater than the jizya (non-muslimtax). Yes...but the ISIS isn't a real islamic state. They don't have real islamic scholars and kill innocents. They do takfir unfairly....and their theology is deviant. yep Muslims believe that the life-after-death (after life / akhira) is permanent and eternal. Yes...good people get land, gardens. And yes, men get virgins (houris). Peace? What do you mean by peace? You can interpret [I]peace[/I] in many ways. I'm aware that Buddhist believe that the mere state of non-existence (nirvana) is pleasing and peaceful. Life is continuous pain..and when you get nirvana you break loose from the life-cycle (samsara) and get the peace. Muslims don't believe this. I'll tell you what "peace" could be in the muslim paradise. Just imagine our Earth was a place without any wars. No one did evil. Everyone did good. All the leaders were good and no oppressors exist. Just imagine how an ideal peaceful-earth would be. It would be peaceful right? Imagine it...and try to make it as much peaceful as you can. What will you do? You will imagine gardens, rivers...trees...no pollution. You will imagine all sorts of things...happiness joy etc. That is the muslim paradise. And that is peace. But that said, however much you try to imagine a peaceful earth and home..it can't match the real paradise. Kill? It isn't legal or normal to kill anyone. But to kill (execute) as a punishment (of death) is allowable but you have to evaluate the crime done by the prostitute. A prostitute fornicates and encourages fornication/adultery. If done is private then I personally feel that no punishment should be given. However if they advertise and make it public etc then you get 4 witnesses and bring the case to a shariah court. A prostitute, I would say, normally get lashes or a time stay in jail under sharia. If the prostitute is married, then the punishment is death, though it would be rarely carried out.[/size] [/QUOTE]
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