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<blockquote data-quote="Salafist" data-source="post: 17536262" data-attributes="member: 518589"><p>That "Ask me anything" thing wasn't a challenge or anything of that sort. It was just a request to ask/question me....in a fun way. Why so serious? </p><p>Anyway my intention was to clear misconceptions and to help people here understand Islam better.</p><p></p><p>But that ex-muslim who I was replying with clearly does not have sincere intentions. There isn't any "winner" or "loser" here, and he seems to be trying to "defeat me"...in what??</p><p>For me he appears to be trying to dismiss the prophethood of Muhammed because of some controversial "difficult" ahadeeth...which even muslims find it hard to cope with. My idea is that if That was his intentions (to disprove Islam), then for me his approach is wrong, atleast for me. (And I appear to be the only muslim here, so if he wants to disprove Islam to me in that way then it's not going to work) and that's why I was saying that I won't be defending ahadeeth. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line is those ahadeeth don't dismiss the prophethood of Muhammed (for me). Let me explain. </p><p>He takes ahadeeth. He makes the conclusion that Muhammed is (insert claim here) from them. His premise is that prophets of God can't be (insert claim here). So Muhammed is not a prophet of God. Islam is false. </p><p>This is the wrong approach to disprove Islam. </p><p></p><p>Providing a defence for the ahadeeth (if there is any) is time wasting....because it doesn't fulfill the purpose of him and me being here. </p><p></p><p>So that's what I said..if anyone wants to disprove Islam to me..then prove one of these two things</p><p>1. Quran is not the word of a deity.</p><p>2. Muhammed is not a prophet. (his characteristics doesn't matter).</p><p></p><p>But since people are being adamant I shall try to answer him directly. And even if I can't answer them..what does it show? Have I been "defeated"..what do you mean defeated?? In what? Remember these ahadeeth in no way belittles Islam (for me). It is a non-issue. </p><p></p><p>In other words "I believe in these ahadeeth because I am Muslim....but it is not because of these ahadeeth that I am muslim".</p><p>For example, take the hadeeth that says Adam was 40ft. Now he would say that modern science and evolution say that people couldn't have been 40ft at any time. So the hadeeth is wrong.....and is a lie. So Islam is useless and a lie. </p><p>BUT now, I believe Adam was 40ft because I am Muslim....and it is not this belief that makes me Muslim. It's just a package deal. If</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salafist, post: 17536262, member: 518589"] That "Ask me anything" thing wasn't a challenge or anything of that sort. It was just a request to ask/question me....in a fun way. Why so serious? Anyway my intention was to clear misconceptions and to help people here understand Islam better. But that ex-muslim who I was replying with clearly does not have sincere intentions. There isn't any "winner" or "loser" here, and he seems to be trying to "defeat me"...in what?? For me he appears to be trying to dismiss the prophethood of Muhammed because of some controversial "difficult" ahadeeth...which even muslims find it hard to cope with. My idea is that if That was his intentions (to disprove Islam), then for me his approach is wrong, atleast for me. (And I appear to be the only muslim here, so if he wants to disprove Islam to me in that way then it's not going to work) and that's why I was saying that I won't be defending ahadeeth. Bottom line is those ahadeeth don't dismiss the prophethood of Muhammed (for me). Let me explain. He takes ahadeeth. He makes the conclusion that Muhammed is (insert claim here) from them. His premise is that prophets of God can't be (insert claim here). So Muhammed is not a prophet of God. Islam is false. This is the wrong approach to disprove Islam. Providing a defence for the ahadeeth (if there is any) is time wasting....because it doesn't fulfill the purpose of him and me being here. So that's what I said..if anyone wants to disprove Islam to me..then prove one of these two things 1. Quran is not the word of a deity. 2. Muhammed is not a prophet. (his characteristics doesn't matter). But since people are being adamant I shall try to answer him directly. And even if I can't answer them..what does it show? Have I been "defeated"..what do you mean defeated?? In what? Remember these ahadeeth in no way belittles Islam (for me). It is a non-issue. In other words "I believe in these ahadeeth because I am Muslim....but it is not because of these ahadeeth that I am muslim". For example, take the hadeeth that says Adam was 40ft. Now he would say that modern science and evolution say that people couldn't have been 40ft at any time. So the hadeeth is wrong.....and is a lie. So Islam is useless and a lie. BUT now, I believe Adam was 40ft because I am Muslim....and it is not this belief that makes me Muslim. It's just a package deal. If [/QUOTE]
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