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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salafist" data-source="post: 17543498" data-attributes="member: 518589">Ok.Everytime a prophet was sent, people would disbelieve and mock him and his teachings. They would call him a liar...and would try and kill him. Then God would inflict a punishment to destroy the disbelievers and he would save the muslims. [disbelievers are people who recognize the truth but still choose to disbelieve. All disbelievers are non-muslims but not all non-muslims are disbelievers...during the prophet time there were plenty of disbelievers]For example consider the prophet Noah. (a prophet of Jews, Christians and muslims). When he preched many people rejected him...and he preached for a long long time. Finally God decided to destroy the disbelievers and save only the believers...so he caused a natural disaster in the form of a flood. This flood drowned all of the rejecting ones. Imagine how many people were killed! Around 20+ million plus I reckon. Maybe more.So that's that...and that has always been the way of God. When people reject the messenger then he would send a punishment in this world...in the form of a natural disaster. You were a muslim...so you would know about the people of Ard...and samud? They were completely destroyed by an Earthquake (or wind) for rejecting the prophets.But in the case of Muhammed, God didn't punish the disbelievers through natural disasters. Rather he punished them through Muhammed....by giving him military victories in war. So God punished the disbelievers this time, not through natural disasters but through the sword...through Muhammed.And Muhammed fought so many battles. Some of these the muslims were severely outnumbered...but they were given victory by God...(for instance, the battle of badr.So that explains the so many battles of Muhammed. And that explains why many people died by his sword. They were disbelievers and EVERYONE OF THEM DESERVED IT.So  no....loony sadistic killer isn't the right words. Do you believe in the existence of a God?Wait..what!? Why the jump!?I said those ahadeeth are nothing....but violence to the innocent does bother me. 9/11 is wrong. 7/7 is wrong. Madrid is wrong. Boko haram is severely wrong. I condemn these all. And specially the bamiyan buddha statues. There was certainly no valid islamic reason to do that.Canadian parliament!?????And talking about violence to the innocent....what about the rohingya muslims and what the Burmese are doing to them!?And no.....if you bring up hadeeth that Muhammed seemed to do violence...I would say the victims were sinners and deserved it! And eye for an eye...tooth for a tooth.But the forgiveness of Muhammed was greater. He forgived so many people....notable when he conquered Mecca. He freed everyone!So it's like 43982749 incidents of forgiveness. And you bring out 4 incidents of violence. And then conclude that Muhammed is a sadistic killer.Anyway I don't like this approach. Why don't you criticize the Quran, for one thing?? As I've said I don't see anything wrong. I know it's a subjective issue though.The Quran says that Muhammed is a prophet of God. So why don't I not believe in the Quran?Okay then you're calling more than a billion people in this world as brainless. Lool...it's not that simple as you think it is.Is that why you've asked? You wanted to defeat me? In what?see, I don't like replying to people like you. If you're asking ask sincerely. With the intention of receiving a answer. And being satisfied. If you ask it as a challenge then no, I don't have debate in my mind. I give you whatever you want from me. If it's an answer then I will answer. If it's to "defeat" me then I will give you victory. That's true mannerism...which you lack. You're rude, arrogant and close-minded. People like you deserve no response. I've had enough experience with unsincere guys like you who are anything but seeking an answer. Their hearts are truly sealed. These oft-sinning people deserve it from God.Anyway, if you're challenging my faith, don't base your accusations on traits or charactericts of Muhammed which you've picked up reading a couple of hadeeth. I will accept that Muhammed is barbaric only from a person who has studied his life, and not just a few ahadeeth. Generalizations isn't enough. Give me real arguments and evidence and proof. If you cannot, and you surely cannot, then I won't scoff, mock or belittle...You wqill get that soon anyway.</blockquote>

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