Intel! You are as n00b as one can get!

Anusha

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If you read this thread, you'll know how my CPU ran into some overheating nightmares. :D

I blamed it "totally" on the mobo, saying that the readings are all wrong, and 97C is not possible because the CPU is anyway supposed to throttle at those temps (well, at any temp beyond T-Junction, which is 85C for my CPU) But it didn't throttle and the obvious thing to do was to blame it on the mobo.

Yesterday, I downloaded CoreTemp, which is now (amazingly) compatible with Vsita x64 (ok ok, Windows Server 2008 x64 :P) as they have signed their drivers (what?! when all these "other" software developers couldn't do it!), and checked the temps. 68C idle. Well...still it could be the damned mobo sensor. That's the easy way out of this situation. Blame it on the poor! :lol:

But after some digging in, I found out that most people recommend CoreTemp as a reliable temperature monitoring tool, and I was sort of worried about this. 68C idle! Bloody hell!

Then I ran the blend test of Prime95 (x64, and the multithreaded version) and I could get the temps easily up to 85C and even CoreTemp went crazy and started showing weird values like 127C! (85C, then 127C...not a real value of course...but still, something is wrong) 85C is the temp my CPU should start to throttle at.

Good thing that gayannr was there to offer his sympathies to me on MSN :rofl:

Anyway, I made up my mind to take out the heatsink and play with the damn thing! I wanted to lap the sink. I read on several articles that Intel HeatSink is concave at the bottom...and that you should either lap it or buy a new aftermarket cooler, IF YOU ARE HAVING TEMP PROBLEMS! I raised my hand...:lol:

I had Grit-400, 600 and 1200 sandpapers at home, which I had bought to lap the stupid heatsink I had on my previous PC. I took out the heatsink, lapped it for about 40 minutes. It was slow going, because of the stupid "legs" of the Intel heatsink.

Anyway, here is a pic of the lapped sink. Shiny shiny :D (I should buy Grit 1500 and 2000 papers and sand it more :))

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Then I put a small pebble of heatsink paste (that is crap...but maybe 0.00001% better than not having them :lol:) on the CPU heastspreader and let the pressure of the heatsink spread it on the CPU heatspreader. I didn't apply a layer of paste on the CPU heatspreader as I used to do. Wanted to check if this is better.

And this is the result after lapping.

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It doesn't even reach 70C now, and this is after running Prime95 for 1 hour.

THAT'S FCUKING 16C+ LESS THAN IT WAS BEFORE!

So, getting back to the thread topic,

YOU DUMB-ASS INTEL! YOU CAN MAKE A PROCESSOR! BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE A HEATSINK! SCREW YOU INTEL BITCHES!!!!

P.S.
I dropped the overclock because I didn't test for stability after upgrading to 4GB RAM. I will do it now :)
 
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    Well agreed.They dont make good HSFs and see how the bastards made the HSF half of the lowend and older ones.BTW 1200Grit will make it to 8u or less.Its the most you will get.
     

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    zCexVe said:
    Well agreed.They dont make good HSFs and see how the bastards made the HSF half of the lowend and older ones.BTW 1200Grit will make it to 8u or less.Its the most you will get.
    Well, you can still see the swirl marks, though it is pretty shiny. From that guide on Overclockers, they are using up to Grit 2000. I would like to buy some, but I really don't have to. I mean, with these crappy heatsink pastes, you won't even see those small marks...Only irregular shapes will affect the result.
     

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    Anusha said:
    If you read this thread, you'll know how my CPU ran into some overheating nightmares. :D

    I blamed it "totally" on the mobo, saying that the readings are all wrong, and 97C is not possible because the CPU is anyway supposed to throttle at those temps (well, at any temp beyond T-Junction, which is 85C for my CPU) But it didn't throttle and the obvious thing to do was to blame it on the mobo.

    Yesterday, I downloaded CoreTemp, which is now (amazingly) compatible with Vsita x64 (ok ok, Windows Server 2008 x64 :P) as they have signed their drivers (what?! when all these "other" software developers couldn't do it!), and checked the temps. 68C idle. Well...still it could be the damned mobo sensor. That's the easy way out of this situation. Blame it on the poor! :lol:

    But after some digging in, I found out that most people recommend CoreTemp as a reliable temperature monitoring tool, and I was sort of worried about this. 68C idle! Bloody hell!

    Then I ran the blend test of Prime95 (x64, and the multithreaded version) and I could get the temps easily up to 85C and even CoreTemp went crazy and started showing weird values like 127C! (85C, then 127C...not a real value of course...but still, something is wrong) 85C is the temp my CPU should start to throttle at.

    Good thing that gayannr was there to offer his sympathies to me on MSN :rofl:

    Anyway, I made up my mind to take out the heatsink and play with the damn thing! I wanted to lap the sink. I read on several articles that Intel HeatSink is concave at the bottom...and that you should either lap it or buy a new aftermarket cooler, IF YOU ARE HAVING TEMP PROBLEMS! I raised my hand...:lol:

    I had Grit-400, 600 and 1200 sandpapers at home, which I had bought to lap the stupid heatsink I had on my previous PC. I took out the heatsink, lapped it for about 40 minutes. It was slow going, because of the stupid "legs" of the Intel heatsink.

    Anyway, here is a pic of the lapped sink. Shiny shiny :D (I should buy Grit 1500 and 2000 papers and sand it more :))

    20080308qu4.jpg


    Then I put a small pebble of heatsink paste (that is crap...but maybe 0.00001% better than not having them :lol:) on the CPU heastspreader and let the pressure of the heatsink spread it on the CPU heatspreader. I didn't apply a layer of paste on the CPU heatspreader as I used to do. Wanted to check if this is better.

    And this is the result after lapping.

    sshot1sm2.png


    It doesn't even reach 70C now, and this is after running Prime95 for 1 hour.

    THAT'S FCUKING 16C+ LESS THAN IT WAS BEFORE!

    So, getting back to the thread topic,

    YOU DUMB-ASS INTEL! YOU CAN MAKE A PROCESSOR! BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE A HEATSINK! SCREW YOU INTEL BITCHES!!!!

    P.S.
    I dropped the overclock because I didn't test for stability after upgrading to 4GB RAM. I will do it now :)

    Calm down Anusha calm down!!
    intel doesn't make Heatsinks ne :rofl:
    at least now u r in a safe zone i guess. but still 70c is too much for a C2D. :dull:
     

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    gayannr said:
    Calm down Anusha calm down!!
    intel doesn't make Heatsinks ne :rofl:
    at least now u r in a safe zone i guess. but still 70c is too much for a C2D. :dull:
    SCREW YOU 2!
     

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    same happened 2 me.when my pro got over 70c i checked the heatsink for dust.
    when im cleaning it i broked 1 of da mounting pin of da fan.
    what 2 do.
    then i bought a new 1(not intel)
    nw da heat is within da range of 35-50c.
    new fan is far better dan da intel 1.
    my pro - pentium d 3.4ghz
     

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    Anusha said:
    Well, you can still see the swirl marks, though it is pretty shiny. From that guide on Overclockers, they are using up to Grit 2000. I would like to buy some, but I really don't have to. I mean, with these crappy heatsink pastes, you won't even see those small marks...Only irregular shapes will affect the result.
    AFAIK you wont get much more reduced heat after 1200Grit.I think max will be 1~2C reduced.I've seen guides and experiments of those lapped HSFs.As a total 1~2c will be reduced after 1200grit.Thats not great for the energy you waste.And with the ceramique things you have here which will be wasted in 3 months under your heat it s far more better to be without HSFs.Its good I think as you have came very near to almost flat.Did you lapped the CPU too?
     

    zCexVe

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    milindasenarath said:
    same happened 2 me.when my pro got over 70c i checked the heatsink for dust.
    when im cleaning it i broked 1 of da mounting pin of da fan.
    what 2 do.
    then i bought a new 1(not intel)
    nw da heat is within da range of 35-50c.
    new fan is far better dan da intel 1.
    my pro - pentium d 3.4ghz
    So I assume youve got 945/950.Better is to make tea or boil eggs with your CU. :D :D :DJk ,K?Those Ds have lots of heat.:P
     

    zCexVe

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    hul2000 said:
    So, are you saying that using heatsink paste is bad? :confused:
    If its not MX2/AS5/Xinjitsu/zalman ZMG like things its bad :P well in LK every paste is bad except the great toothpaste but the prob is it fits very fast.Dont last long.
     

    Anusha

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    zCexVe said:
    AFAIK you wont get much more reduced heat after 1200Grit.I think max will be 1~2C reduced.I've seen guides and experiments of those lapped HSFs.As a total 1~2c will be reduced after 1200grit.Thats not great for the energy you waste.And with the ceramique things you have here which will be wasted in 3 months under your heat it s far more better to be without HSFs.Its good I think as you have came very near to almost flat.Did you lapped the CPU too?
    I didn't lap the CPU. Not so keen on doing something like that....I mean, holding the CPU in the hands...I believe I haven't held the CPU for more than 30 second in my hands :D
    milindasenarath said:
    same happened 2 me.when my pro got over 70c i checked the heatsink for dust.
    when im cleaning it i broked 1 of da mounting pin of da fan.
    what 2 do.
    then i bought a new 1(not intel)
    nw da heat is within da range of 35-50c.
    new fan is far better dan da intel 1.
    my pro - pentium d 3.4ghz
    What's the cooler you bought?
    I don't really wanna buy a new cooler...But if you saw such a huge difference, I might!
     

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    zCexVe said:
    If its not MX2/AS5/Xinjitsu/zalman ZMG like things its bad :P well in LK every paste is bad except the great toothpaste but the prob is it fits very fast.Dont last long.
    You need at least grease in there...Something at least! Anything is better than air :D